I'm trans HRT-enby, and I am not getting one thing...

I read your post wrong there O great sweet anon, my bad

>a cross sex infertile result

and this is bad why? how is this option something which a minor cant consent to become rather than the other option?

Are you fucking listening to yourself? If you think kids can consent to becoming completely infertile in the name of gender affirmation then I don't think you can be reasoned with at all. You are fucking delusional.

can consent to becoming completely infertile

i mean they literally start this way, do we ever ask their consent before they become fertile or is it just when the possibility of them not being fertile that is somehow unacceptable.
also being so focused on how fertile minors are is kinda a red flag

i mean they literally start this way

also being so focused on how fertile minors are is kinda a red flag

I'm speaking of their fertility as adults in the future. Bumbling retard, holy shit. So many of you idiots who completely lack critical thinking are "protecting" trans kids the wrong way.

The trans community doing this shit to children will be their fucking downfall if they keep being deterministic about it. It's not a fucking joke and it's going to harm our rights to express our gender, and our rights to modify our bodies as adults in general. How are NONE of you seeing this shit, I am fucking blown away.

idc about sportsball, but forcing trannies to turn into hons by denying them hormones is legitimately evil. You would probably understand if you actually experienced GD.

le castration

Aside from the fact that GD is a dysgenic trait and reproducing it is immoral, most trannies have zero interest in FATHERING children

nooooo you have to let dysphoria get worse and worse, you need to be able to make kidsss

lmao cry harder

forcing trannies to turn into hons by denying them hormones is legitimately evil

No it isn't, they won't become hons if they continue treatment as adults. Move to california or any other trans supportive state, they LITERALLY insure HRT and FFS. It isn't worth it for a child to risk their fucking health and well-being for the rest of their lives in the name of doing this.
Transitioning oftentimes comes with being infertile, retard. That's a risk that should be considered, a risk that only trans adults who can fucking consent should recognize.

trump inadvertently protecting trans kids is an interesting idea I have never heard of lmao

wahhhh wahhhh you gotta have kids waaaahhh wahhhh

do you really have no argument beyond your weird obsession with minors' fertility?

trans women ruining sports because uhhh biogologickal avantij

different ethnicities can have wildly different skeletons/strengths, there's plenty of cishons who're stacked from genetics or playing sports their whole lives, transitioning into a hon doesn't give you an absolute advantage over every other woman
if you actually cared about a level playing field in terms of physique and bodies you'd want to split sports into something like mixed-sex weight/strength classes. you just don't like trannies and don't want them playing any sports at all

For many people 18 is already too late. Why are you brining up California for no reason? Becoming a hon is far more of a health risk.
it would be a reasonable concern for non-trannies

if you actually cared about a level playing field in terms of physique and bodies you'd want to split sports into something like mixed-sex weight/strength classes

I think that's still wishful thinking, I am offering this idea as a compromise but this would've worked as well. But saying I "dislike trannies" when I expecitly said I'm trans-enby proves that you don't take this conversation seriously.

fine, if baby wants the big words i'll say 'transmisogynistic'. you're not magically excused from treating trans women like shit just because you're NB and on HRT

this would've worked as well

one solution actually does something to help solve fairness of different bodies in sport, the other is literally just getting rid of trannies. come ON youve gotta be less transparent than this, at least come up with a better cover

assimilation

begging cis people for respect

you're pathetic kys

kill yourself.

The downfall will come from treating mtf and ftm as the same disorder with the same diagnostic criteria and the same treatment path. Which you have to, because youre not allowed to acknowledge that there could be any difference between males and females. What people really care about is young women cutting their breast off. Nobody really cares if some male youths get castrated. Well, maybe they don't want to many weak males flopping around when the war breaks out. But the sob stories are always about the young women.
And, are you really sure it's trannies doing it? I don't know any trannies... do you?

Treating trans women like shit by making sure they're truly secure in their choices of transitioning when they become adults? Ok, fucking retard.
You are the one self-assimilating by being so extremist on gender theory to the point that it isn't respectable by the people who remotely attempt to offer their understanding, only to be met with contradictions like what the topic of OP is. And you are fucking wondering why the trans community isn't respected. Please fucking tell me this isn't true.
Also, news flash, not everyone on earth is going to deviate from being cis.

I don't know any trannies... do you?

Yes, I've had similar conversations with a couple trans people who agreed but most got offput by my ideas. I just cautiously introduce the topic than being more blunt on here and they come to an understanding that you are only able to fucking consent to biological modifications when you are a grown adult. I am not trying to neglect the identity of trans kids at all, which is what a lot of you jump to the conclusion on.

secure in their choices of transitioning

detransition rate for trans youth is only 2.5% and the vast majority of detransitions are due to either social or economic pressure.'

you literally have no idea what youre talking about, your talking points are unoriginal but also lack depth. if your gonna try and toll atleast have some creativity lol

lmao you are a clown. you're not even good at this shit, go back to twitter

Biological modifications aren't even really possible past a certain point, when that is is dependent on an individual's genetics.

I am not trying to neglect the identity of trans kids at all

nobody here gives a fuck about "identity" or whatever other made up fag shit that doesn't really affect anything material

There's already empirical evidence that putting children on puberty blockers fucks with their endogenous growth factors

Which is why they should get proper HRT, not puberty blockers.

I think only people over the age of 18 should get pharmaceutical HRT

After they've already been fucked over by the puberty of their natal sex?

this should not majorly effect children livelihoods if others alike start recognizing that gender expression is not inherently dependant upon biological makeup.

I would still feel dysphoric about my jaw and my narrow hips and wide shoulders and so on even if everyone on the planet believed in their heart of hearts that I'm a woman despite them.

I have cried myself to sleep over the irreversible damage that male puberty did to my body too many times to willingly abandon anyone else to that fate.

this is what literally any actual trans person feels, but these fucking trenders cannot understand that. they're willing to abandon everything they have caused because this is all a game of dress-up to them in the first place.

DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND LOOKING AS CUTE AS POSSIBLE IS OUR ONLY VALUE!?

Maybe you should accept that how pretty you want to look is not the most important thing in the universe. It probably shouldn't even be the most important thing to you.

males can be cute. this is about not looking male. you retard.

children transitioning

if you'd been given HRT earlier, you wouldn't have to adopt a meme gender identity that would have an average person assume you're a mentally ill freak.

sports

fuck sporthons but youngshits should be able to workout non-competitively with girls

The ONLY things that bother me about some transpeople are: (im not saying you specifically)
1)supreme levels of ego("identity") that would make trump blush. These people define themselves to a truely retarded degree:

"Im agender anti-cisnormativementarianist, radfem, socdem, antiabelist, blm bipoc supporter, intercultural praxaian, propalestine antirussia nedi activist, steven universe fan, revolutionary, whos proouns are emojiself, borderline autistoc schizo adhd, gad, glutton free vegan wiccan atheist mh kinks are blah blah blah........."

Like holy fuck. And of coarse everything they say is me me ME MEEE!!!
In fact I wouldn't be suprised these types dont have gender dysphoria and its all about having a sanctioned way to force others to recognize their egos, as a moral impartive, against thier will.

Its like how fundamentalist ruin it for normie christians except there are no trans people calling thus behavior out.

trans HRT-enby

You're delusional, so of course you're not getting it. You should get neuroleptics, not hormones.

That's not what I said. I don't cry myself to sleep over not being cute, I cry myself to sleep because my body is irreversibly masculinized. I'd rather look like a plain woman than the world's handsomest man.

In fact I wouldn't be suprised these types dont have gender dysphoria

yeah real dysphorics are just mtf period end of story. trans people calling this behaivor out get screamed at by the theyfabs and called transphobic and this female on male violence is just eventually enough to make us shut up.

The D*tch protocol is a retarded compromise that no one likes and gives bad results.

Don’t put kids on blockers unless they have precocious puberty. Give them crosssex hormones immediately.

One day, when trans are accepted by society, most will turn conservative, because they already perfer traditional female roles. Mark my words, theyre only leftist because they have no choice. Same for leftist Islam.
When will they be accepted? According to strauss how theory it takes about 80 years for outgroups to be normalized (minus extreme deviants and cults). So trans rights stuff started around 1969, so 2050s.

only people who arent cute say this stuff lol

Any plans for after you turn the dreaded 27 years old?

move to looking refined and pretty, i think looking good as a woman is easily extendable into the late 30s depending on genetics and care