It's only a matter of time, they're going to remove all of the chemicals. Which countries will accept trans refugees?
HRT ban is coming
Posting for all the nothing ever happens retards:
Taken directly from donald trumps campaign website. There is no reason to believe he will not do this:
Ask Congress to pass a bill establishing that:
The only genders recognized by the U.S. government are male and female—and they are assigned at birth.
Direct the Department of Justice to investigate Big Pharma and the big hospital networks to determine whether they have:
Deliberately covered up horrific long-term side-effects of “sex transitions” to get rich at the expense of vulnerable patients.
Illegally marketed hormones and puberty blockers, which are in no way licensed or approved for this use.
This means it will be impossible for any trans person to ever be stealth to their employer, doctor, landlord, health insurance, etc. And likely means HRT will no longer be covered by insurance for treating gender dysphoria for any adult.
>Illegally marketed hormones and puberty blockers, which are in no way licensed or approved for this use.
d-does this mean diy guys...
w-will I be safe in Oregon?!
no it's talking about fda approval. If you want hormones you will need to get a doctor who will prescribe them off label, difficult because they could easily be sued, and then pay for them out of pocket. The "approved" treatment will likely be conversion therapy instead. Most people will be forced to diy.
i can take in 1 cute passoid as my gf
Department of Justice report
So Cass report round 2? except even more insane because it's covering all transitions even for adults
maternal mortality rate soars post 2020 on the graph he shows
tries to ignore or sidestep the reality of the abortion being to blame by saying it's the food killing the women
i just can't. how are people this retarded?
and diy will be made a crime, he could easily direct agencies to make estrogen a scheduled substance meaning simple possession without a valid prescription becomes a crime, if you diy and customs finds it 3 letter agents could put you in prison (with your agab)
also they could ban the chemicals needed for self production of these medications
they don't care that this would impact cis women too
we will be erased from existence and there will be nothing we can do, no one will fight for us because the left will believe the meme that trans people are wht they lost the election even though those attack ads were mostly non sequetor; they will not stop at banning amab in sorts, they will take it almost as far as sodomy laws if they can; and no one will stand up for us because they see us as deviants no matter what kind of people we actually are as individuals
thry could also classify us as drag performers just for girlmoding and arrest us under public decency laws
plenty of people would love to see us suffer and be exterminated
nothing ever happens
how can they keep saying that when it already happened? people's lives have been upturned over this for the past 4 years directly because the ball got rolling 8 years ago
federally you won't be able to get your hormones or surgery covered by medicaid, and possibly private insurance as well depending on how things evolve or whether those companies receive any federal funding in any capacity or context
:)
literally, yes
this. im a dual citizen and have like 11 months supply of e/prog/spiro from france, plan on hiding it and sticking to wearing baggy hoodies. genderneutralmaxxing
if you diy and customs finds it 3 letter agents could put you in prison
come and take it, glownigs
they don't care that this would impact cis women too
Will those women fucking care in the first place? Or I guess I should say, would it outrage them enough to change anything? Would people even connect the changes to Trump and the GOP when you have people arguing that Trump has nothing to do with abortion bans? If the argument is framed right you could get people to basically see it as simply parity with testosterone
Don't count on it being that exciting. This is probably going to be the most tech-savvy presidential administration ever and they're well aware of the fact that we live in a digital panopticon.
ill never stop gitlmoding but im rarely outside of my bed let alone our apartment
It is fucking joever, one can hope he's only grifting again but I don't think he is
I don't really doubt he'll TRY
He also tried to get Mexico to pay for a border wall he barely built
It takes more than trying to make things happen politically
>Ask Congress to pass a bill establishing that:
Yea things die in congress all the time. Bipartisan things die in congress even. How often does the government fight big pharma and win?
Holy shit I hope this is real!
Especially for mtts!
controlled substance
unlikely, I think rather there would be more import regulations preventing unlicensed drugs from entering the country
estrogen also has veterinary uses so I feel its unlikely it can be restricted effectively. I'm more concerned about the following:
Yes the Secretary of Health and Human services could make medicare-medicaid inelligible to hospitals/insurers that provide any gender-affirming care. The problem is how reasonable that is in insuring the health of medicare receipients and how well their definition could be held up in court.
and how well their definition could be held up in court
you mean the courts packed with trump appointees already, and about to become even more inundated with hardline conservative values? lmao
None because no country wants pedophiles in their borders.
keep the rapists and pedofiles out
Well like Biden's vaccine mandate was controversal because it used this same mandate of the HHS. It is likely that any argument that would support cracking down on HRT, FFS, etc would also expand the Secretary's powers to enforce it either way. I can only imagine a bill that would effectively curtail it to the degree people would be happy with but that might make people upset about their healthcare being taken away.
The trump appointees sided with us in 2020
when? when half the states restricted trans healthcare and policed language?
threaten to take away federal funding or kickbacks of any kind from all insurers and providers
they all drop trans healthcare
make DIY illegal
see! they didn't ban it! troled xd
I think people are assuming they'll exclusively use health regulations, but the Internet is the backbone of the trans community and most people don't really consciously think about how much power the United States has over the Internet.
Which countries will accept trans refugees?
I don't really doubt he'll TRY
doesn't he have SCOTUS + house + senate?
He also tried to get Mexico to pay for a border wall he barely built
yeah but he doesn't have to go to war with Tranniland to make you illegal lmao
> we will be erased from existence and there will be nothing we can do, no one will fight for us
No, you will be erased from existence just like how you deserve to be. I am very sick of trannies like you and I smile every day knowing that you are going to get what you deserve.
Yeah ban me from every forum with your fake ugly “mods” but I won today and forever.
Yeah ignore this like you keep on doing, but know someone reads this and that person knows that I am telling the truth.
And its not because you are a tranny I am a black trans girl with a good paying job do you want to know why? Because I have a brain because I am not deluded like you. See you need people to help you because you are actually broken.
Me on the other hand. I got what I wanted to see you all fall. You banned me and I told you I will get my revenge. You doubt me, I voted for Trump. Because I wanted to see the Dems fall.
Funny how the Dems will say oh nobody wanted a black female president. No I didn't want some mixed indian president. I only vote for a black or white person if the person is indian, Mexican, or any type of brown I wont vote hell I will try to bring them down and I did. :)
You deserve to have it all taken away, keep on pushing me away and banning me from your “social” media platforms I will just get everyone to bring you down and they will.
You have no one because you push everyone away and now they are on my team my side to bring your lies down. I won you lost. That's the end of it. I have to get back to my cushy job I am off in 30mins lol
You will always have no one.
If you live in a blue state with protections it will function like legal weed does for HRT.
Fed gov passes HRT Bans
"Pls enforce my ban/ ID laws please"
Blue state: Lmao no read my state constitution
Then feds can either
Send in army and crack down
Inevitably accidentally fuck with one to many innocent normies
Start literal civil war once normies get tired of living under an occupying force.(Literally why our country even exists)
Or
Ignore that trannies are taking HRT
Point to their red cuck states as a success of the program
Low information religious nuts whine about something else.
Then pick the latter literally a nothing burger if your state isn't a shithole.
Jokes on you my insurance doesn't cover my HRT because they are greedy fucks and just put it in a tier they don't have to pay for anyways.
They already fail to crack down on T and actually dangerous drugs we are fine.
you are the most retarded nigger i have ever seen
Bostock v. Clayton County was just anti-discrimination yeah but it wasn't nothing
this solution would be hilarious but also unlikely
sorry, no one wants to live in your shithole except jeets and island savages
yeah i agree but doesn't fix passport + surgery issues
cross sex hormones are already off-label. the FDA never approved their use for transgender care. it is simply overwhelming body of science that suggests it and therefore doctors go for it.
Most likely unless something is dramatically different with last couple races. The republicans do have to get around filibusters, I think.
it's a good point that a lot of the hypothetical scenarios people are gaming out are not taking into account opposition from the democrats and democratic state governments. I don't like that it's kind of come to trusting them to help
any kind of information provider or network, any kind of discussion board, books, if they can fuck with your federal funding in any indirect way that capital decides it's not worth risking it will become de facto banned language and thought
Passport and national ID stuff like social security will def suck. That is a good point. Not sure if states would protect surgery or not.
Idk I'm just fortunate that my state Massachussets apparently has it in our state constitution.
The feds tried and failed to stop piracy stopping us will be no different. They will force plebbit to stop having trans reddits. And pretend it was an amazing success while a million sites and forums just exist anywways
The feds tried and failed to stop piracy stopping us will be no different. They will force plebbit to stop having trans reddits. And pretend it was an amazing success while a million sites and forums just exist anywways
you're equating copying data mostly to avoid paying for the license to do so with discussing or aiding the existence of a class of peopel
Start literal civil war once normies get tired of living under an occupying force.(Literally why our country even exists)
Would not happen even in the case of a crackdown. Due to political polarization, one side got the vast, VAST majority of people who would even be capable of fighting a war. The other side got women and eggheads.
Blue states keeping the status quo is contingent on blue states remaining, well, blue. So far it's looking like "safe" blue states saw swings toward the GOP with only a couple exceptions like Washington/Colorado, Trump is a generational candidate who's stolen major parts of the Democratic coalition out from under them and it's only unclear if the GOP can keep it going after he's no longer on any ballots. The Dems do not really have any good prospects in terms of red states they can flip, I would say almost every blue state is flippable now because however good Dem rule is for trannies they're unable to get a handle on crime, cost of living or homelessness.
Also, they won't necessarily need to force uncooperative state governments to do anything - just threaten to tighten the federal purse strings if you aid and abet trannyism. The chilling effect will be enough, has arguably already started in some places.
Unlikely, but as I said in another post it will likely be the most tech-savvy administration ever and they have a plan for getting loyalists into faceless federal agencies that are currently overwhelmingly libs. The 2024 GOP is also taking steps toward banning porn for which any serious effort while require action against websites and workarounds, and while it seems like efforts have fizzled out for now some states considered bills that would have censored websites for hosting info about obtaining abortions. The abortion pill controversy is ongoing as well
Yes, should be apparent how much potential there really is for controlling info online after the last decade or so of the deplatforming controversy
It includes Otokonoko. but NOT informed consent.
Are you too much of a dweeb, sperg or poorfag to get weed? If you can do that, you'll get through this fine.
If you have private insurance, they still cover it. If you're a NEET poorfag on medicaid, you really should be looking to fix that.
Most people will be forced to diy.
Absolutely not. Also keep in mind that some states will probably cover this gap.
he could easily direct agencies to make estrogen a scheduled substance meaning simple possession without a valid prescription becomes a crime
This would be a massive shitshow.
thry could also classify us as drag performers just for girlmoding and arrest us under public decency laws
Public decency laws aren't federal. But you should be trying to get the government out of regulating speech just in case.
I mean yes both are equally impossible to enforce online. They will try arrest a few people to make an example and nothing will change
They will try arrest a few people to make an example and nothing will change
you're very naive if you believe that's all they're going to try
lives will be lost, like I'm sorry, but this is creating an environment that exuses and encourages violence towards us
Take your pills alice. Being anti trans isn't gonna make your repression any easier. Accept yourself instead you faggot
What I'm saying is they literally can't ban LGBT off the internet. It's impossible.
what they can do is force it to the fringes and funnel toward/create and then put under greater scrutiny the few remaining places who don't cave because they're not big enough to matter along with real-life measures while it's more trouble than it's worth to even allow discussion of such things on all mainstream platforms of any kind
again, we are talking about even admitting that a class of people exists, not trading media or I mean linux isos or whatever
Weed is not comparable, legal weed flourished thanks to federal negligence to enforce its own laws because all the fucking feds smoked weed in college and nobody still believed in reefer madness. Trump's first AG tried to end that negligence but failed, it's just not a partisan issue anymore.
Our current understanding of freedom of speech was mostly built on 20th century liberal jurisprudence and even then has always had an exception for obscenity.
Guess they'll just say "aw, shucks", kick rocks and just give up on something they believe to be an existential threat to them and their children then.
They can and the state has done worse in the past.
i have the most wonderful and passionate marriage in the world; my wife loves me more than you could ever imagine or be capable of, and she will ensure our safety and survival for the duration of the trump term
i see you voted for a racist because you are one, and that's very sad
you are a disgrace, absolutely garbage, and i believe many will regret that vote and feel guilt from it for the rest of their lives
you're incapable of that kind of introspection so be glad for that
you got conned just like everyone else
Ohh nooo we can't use normie brain rot social media and get brainwashed by Zuckerberg and musk
Guys the state barely manages to contain child porn something universally agreed to be vile. Tbh while the average Joe doesn't like us most of them care about other things way more and will be fine as long as they don't see us on Twitter. It's not going to be as tough of a crack down as CP at all
you're not even trying, fuck off
You're comparing digital data to manufactured pharmaceuticals. Also seems like you discount the possibility that the failure to contain cp is simply due to incompetence rather than the impossibility of the goal
I'm literally trans and just trying not to doom spiral to hard. But I really think it's unlikely they will manage to restrict trans online so hard that you won't just be able to use TOR or a VPN and access it.
Still on the fence about whether I need to stockpile a homebrew supply since I am in a blue state.
Guys the state barely manages to contain child porn something universally agreed to be vile.
I wonder why...
Hatred of trannies will magically make the federal government competent.
just use the dark web to discuss your secret existence and hide from the government bro
I don't want to encourage anyone to doom so I will simply say that you should probably stockpile, but you sound like a sniveling bootlicker
Do you promise it's actually going to happen this time?
Grim
Nah I'm just coping DESU. Doing the thing where I oscillate between how edgy and cool it is to be hated by America and hombrewing HRT for science and a newengleand seseccionist revolution to my life is ogre and dooming about camps.
Not "hatred of trannies", but rather a drastic change in personnel ordered by a president who feels that fifth columnists undermined him the first time around. Especially in law enforcement because he was subsequently targeted by it
Fair. Rip now I'm slipping back into it's over.
I need to learn meditation or something I feel like I'm going to get super mentally ill if I keep stressing about this
Trump says a lot of shit. Trump said he would build a wall and make mexico pay for it. How'd that turn out?
politifact.com
It’s called outer heaven and it’s real dicktard
There is a secret army of metal gear pooners training as we speak in the seychelles. They have multiple genetic and cybernetic modifications to make them the perfect soldiers. They will wipe maga out. Total trumphumper death