Would I look better if I lost 10-15kg and then gained it back again? Honest question and honest advice please, I beg...

Would I look better if I lost 10-15kg and then gained it back again? Honest question and honest advice please, I beg. Pictures of me at the start of HRT when I was lighter in thread

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I was 61kg here, am 69kg atm
jannies this is a male censored body, not porn

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omg julie hi big fan. havent seen u in awhile wow you never post. i bet you've posted this same thread at least nine times! ever!!

whats ur underbust and inseam?

not julie (thank god) does inseam matter? most women have shorter legs, but long legs are pretty universally seen as feminine and attractive…

my underbust is like an 80 iirc and my bust around 86. Don’t know my inseam, health app on ios says 82cm

well in her case i think it actually might be relevant here. its either that or the boy pelvis or ribcage.

Have you never worn pants? What length do/did you buy?

Idk I don’t buy pants often and usually I just go by the waist measurement (S/M/L and 34/36/38 etc in EU and I usually wear M or 38)

This would work great, actually, but you don’t care about that, so I’ll give you what you want: you’re a fat piggy and all your fat goes to a male pattern because you’re a man. Your abdomen now looks swollen and bulky because you are a man. You will never pass. You should seriously look into tying up whatever lose ends you have in the world before killing yourself.

nah you don't have excess fat so you are good to gain

julie thread

What do you mean by this would work great?

sometimes I feel insecure but then I see people like julie and it makes me feel great about myself. not just because I mog her but also because I'm not an insane attention whore

please reply, I want to look better but I don’t know how to and I am scared of looking worse if I lose weight

you will

Then what do I do? I can go work out my lower body again and try to bulk. Gaining weight is the hard part

Damn, we had identical starting points skeletally. You’re me if I was skinny fat.
Unfortunately, I mog you now. Lose the weight, cow.

But then won’t I look worse? My ribcage will stick out more. How would I look better? Maybe you can post an unsee of what you look like, pretty please? Losing weight is easy for me, I am just scared of looking more boney and manly

muh ribcage

and your back and shoulders don’t? you’ve got a mini V-taper going on in the opicrel

Isn’t that bones? I am not sure if it will get better or worse if I lose weight

you have mass around your shoulders and back that isn’t in your pre-HRT photo. probably fat but maybe muscle if you’ve been working those areas. that’s why you look like a boy.

What’s your biacromial? If it’s around or less than 14” you have nothing to worry about.

like from shoulder to shoulder? Isn’t 14" really small? I am not a 5'4 cis woman obviously :c My measurements from shoulder to shoulder is around 41cm or 16"
I am not working out my upper body. But I have this shitty warehouse job that makes me lift 10kg boxes once a week and idk if that makes me look bulky

My measurements from shoulder to shoulder is around 41cm or 16"

this is average male bideltoid width. are you sure this is biacromial? that would be really wide for your height

what is the difference between bideltoid and biacromial? I think what I just said was bideltoid

bideltoid includes the muscle and fat biacromial includes the bones only

how am I supposed to measure that?

It’s from shoulder blade to shoulder blade.

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Stand with your back to a wall and mark where the bony points of your clavicles are. Measure that distance.

how do I tell where my shoulder blades end?

bony points? And my clavicles aren’t straight, they like curve up?

I tried to measure shoulder blade to shoulder blade and I think it’s around 38? It is really hard to do this alone

My back looks like this btw. I know it’s over, right?

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cute :3

sorry, it sucks

tfw 14” biacromial at 5’7” after starting HRT at 20

dw, 14” is the average, and you see plenty of tiny ass 5’2” women with like 12” of shoulders

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this is a very imposing image yeah your backs fucked. my advice would be lose a lot of weight and try to model maxx so your more masc features look more fitting

I DONT WANT TO LOOK MASC AND SHOW OFF MASC FEATURES THOUGH

It never even began

I want to die, I want to disappear. How is this reality? How is this real? Why is my body like this? I don’t want to be like this and I can’t change it. I don’t want to exist like this. I want to be gone

queue my mother and sister saying "Your back is slim. Stop saying it’s wide." I don’t want to live. But I can’t kill myself because it would break my boyfriend's heart, he loves me. How am I supposed to live like this? It’s so over

I hate my stupid tranny life. Let me die, I don’t want to live this misery

Your boyfriend doesn’t care. Gay men just hop to the next bear.
Just do it so you can stop shitting up the catalog with your whineposting

oh god imagine having to put up with julie’s bullshit irl.

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dude i'd be soooo supportive of my trans kid but if they ended up like julie i'd disown them so fast

Imagine looking like me and having to live like that. I can’t do this anymore

I don’t want to be like this and annoy other people but how am I supposed to escape this misery? I hate how I look so much and it’s all so fucked already and can’t be fixed. How am I supposed to live like this and be normal? I want to be a good person but I hate myself and how I look

we all hate ourselves that comes free with being trans we cope and move on is all

I’m miserable so let me make other people miserable! What else am I supposed to do?

Unironically and emphatically, kill yourself

I can't just cope with looking like a disfigure ogre abomination. Testosterone disfigured me and I can never revert it an be normal. I am so fucked up and ugly and everyone can see it. I can’t just cope with that.
Like genuinely, how am I supposed to just live like this? I am a disfigured ugly freak, I can’t just cope and live a normal life

wow you're sooooo special and valid. you're right no one else has your struggle. no one ever copes with it and isn't annoying and lives a healthy life, nope never been done before.

Please just help me. I just need help to get out of this misery and then I can be a normal person again. I am kind outside of this board, it’s the reason my bf and friends like me, I am agreeable and chill and compassionate. The whole reason I want to be a therapist is to help others, but right now I need help

Well correct me if I am wrong please, but you probably look better than me. You probably mog me and don’t have to cope with having it as bad as me. I am more ugly and masculine than most people

wait, is this ANOTHER attention seeking thread on top of the same thread you posted yesterday?
get help

I am trying to get help, but people here don’t want to help me. I just need to know what I need to do to look better, other than surgery

Can anyone help me, please? ;-;