Would you say my judgement is accurate?

literally no one likes men in make up

Then why do these boybands have millions of crazy fangirls?

They don't like them.
They call him "mama", while rap monster is the "papa".
The lore goes that he is the smart one trying to keep the other members in check.
The younger generation would wanna get fucked by V (the dumb hot one), suga (the gangsta one) or jungkook (used to be the younger one, now idk).
The roasties without a father figure wanted rap monster.

At least this was true back in the days.
Now I see they wanna get fucked primarily by jimin and jk.

There's NOTHING wrong with masculine women.
Men generally don't like MEN pretending to be women. That's not a masculine woman--that's just a man. And it stands that heterosexuals wouldn't be attracted to them.

Very easy to understand. Hope I made sense.

Feminine features

Nah, just the perspective.

There's NOTHING wrong with masculine women.

Truly masculine women (like butch lesbians or whatever the straight equivalent would be) get harassed and called disgusting by men all the time. So a lot of people don't think there's nothing wrong with masculine women.

She might have slightly masculine facial features, but no one would mistake her for a man if she were to cut her hair short. Also she still has a very feminine body.

brutal that this is correct

False.
link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00287972
Sissies get shit on.
Tomboys don't.

It has a paywall. I can't see it.

are you retarded or is this a bait thread to have people post hot butch women

Neither they would with jin, lmao.

Annas archive, you faggot retard.

you're mostly right, but the example you chose for a masculine woman isn't the best (she's unattractive to men because she looks fat, not just because she's masculine.)
men mostly don't find that look attractive.
plenty of them would still fuck her because men will fuck anything, but she wouldn't be high on their preference ranking.

I bet on both.

learning about annas is one of the best gift a person can receive. you chose to give the gift freely, but still also call anon a faggot retard. bittersweet act. love this site

Nah she just has old woman facial structure with young woman skin.

vas is extremely hot and has masculine facial features, and occasionally gets gendered as a man

truthnuke: "old woman facial structure" when you're leaving skin out of it just is moderately masculinized woman facial structure

What can I say, I am a Christian Man.
Those eyes though...

Sure, she might be attractive to lesbians, but most men wouldn't find her attractive. I was talking about how the vast majority of men are not attracted to masculine women.

nta but you're both right and wrong.
yes it's age, but "old woman face" is masculinized female face. it sets in when premenopause does, tanking E and raising T, taking fat off the face and giving rougher androgenized skin with more hair on it
not really sure i have a point with this just kinda noting it's a blurrier line than we often imply

Do men find her hot though? Or is it mostly women?

Do men find her hot though?

Not me

i'm a trans woman and always found masculine women extremely attractive even before transitioning, doesn't that count

if by "feminine men" you mean kpop idols, they all have masculine, toned bodies and are generally tall and have deep voices
straight women are not actually into pretty androgynous femboys
t. femboy who only attracts bi women and bi men

thats a woman? looked like a dude with booblets

yikes bro

not really so much in looks but personality maybe
but shes a dyke

i find her hot and i'm male (mtf)

straight women are not actually into pretty androgynous femboys

true, however, this is the ideal type for bigirls who are all faghags that want a straight flamer

yikes

personality

they are adolescents (and women who never grew up)

Not bait I'm just genuinely wondering since I'm attracted to men but also want to become a roided tomboy and I'm worried I'll ruin my chances if I do

t. FtM repper

How can you tell her personality from an image though

Honestly I think the reason why people like tomboys is becuse they're androgynous and not even that much masculine.
Masculine women look weird. Like hons or cishons.
Meanwhile androgynous women look cool. They're like mix of teenage boy and girl, not extremely masculine man and a girl.
Honestly i fell bad for extremely masculine women. You have tomboys who are desired more than anything in same group as you but the moment people see extremely masculine woman they will be weirded out. But if they see androgynous boy girl they would fall on their knees.
Its becuse little bit of masculinity and half if masculinity make hot combo.
Meanwhile more of masculinity and artificial femininity (such as lipstick) makes a weird hon look.

ive seen her in movies and stuff and its hard to not think of that when i look at her
but she looks like an older vaguely masc woman so just guess

No those don't count because even if you see yourselves as not real women you're still not like the majority of men

this person is cute /kinda hot

it's because male bodies are a threat, and features that imply one on a woman suggest a potentially deadly ruse to the instinctive mind.
that's why feminine men are attractive -- their masculinity isn't being hidden, but it is just innately softer and less threatening. a masculine woman is the inverse of this -- a woman with strange dangerousness, or a man hiding in the shadows to strike.
it's not very nice but it is what people are thinking

Do you think a woman with a feminine or androgynous face would still fall into hot tomboy territory if she got big muscles (actually big muscles not like slightly lean) but didn't also decrease her bodyfat enough to get that super defined bodybuilder look, or would that push her into cishon territory?

Yeah, becuse shes androgynous and have just perfect ratio of masculine and feminine features meanwhile woman in OP picrel looks extremely masculine becuse of her chin and bones. If she tried to wear make up and achieve femininity in artificial way she would just look like a hon.
Honestly i just feel bad for extremely masculine women.

I fucking love tomboys.

Well thats interesting to think about
Yes, as long as face us androgynous it's tomboy, if she have nust little bit of muscles she is even more andro as tomboy
What is also interesting i notice tomboys don't wear make up, meanwhile cishons always do, i guess they're trying to be more fem in artificial ways but it rarely work si they look uncanny
I would say she is more "futch" than tomboy desu, mostly becuse of hair and make up. Remove that and she would look androgynous as fuck in that suit. Just like all black women.

Yeah, sure, OP. Whatever you say.

Are you a man or woman? Because my point was that straight men do not find masculine women hot. I was not saying masculine women cannot be hot to lesbians.

you understand that woman is dating a cis man

if this is true how am I a masculine cis female (repressor) with straight boyfriend? Alot of straight men are attracted to me.Lesbains too sometimess but it's mostly men who go for me. And I'm absolutely more masculine than your avrage cis afab.

The guy she's dating is way more masculine than her though (and most men)

Does he treat her well and is he alright in terms of physical attractiveness? Because if he isn't, my point still stands.

Would you say that your boyfriend is hot and has a good personality, or would you say that you had to settle?

So straight women