If a heterosexual guy wants to experiment and fool around with femboys and trans girls...

If a heterosexual guy wants to experiment and fool around with femboys and trans girls, how can he approach them in real life without being associated with the lgbt community? Basically, how do I find these people without being labeled as gay and how can I pursue these relationships in secret. I don't even know if I'll like it, so I have to be very careful

How would you get associated it’s not like you get branded

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another man OBSESSED with what's "gay"

you're so fucking boring, why would i even talk to you?

you can do anything with them until 1 of 2 things happens.
your/his lips touch pp.
your/his pp touch his/your bhole.

until then it is 100% straight bro.

nice body bro
id say try grindr
you could also just set your dating app to show you guys too but change nothing about your profile, that should also work

Make sure to say no homo

Whaaaat, just look at the dysgenic beta sois on the left of the image compared to the battle scarred handsome fucks on the right wtaf

are you only interested in fucking them in private? if so, be honest about your intentions. also, grindr.

Well if someone sees me in a place that is clearly meant for homosexual people, then I'm just another homosexual guy there. And worst case scenario if someone I know sees me there, there could be real consequences.

I don't mind exploring my less-than-straight curiosity.

Grindr only shows old hairy men, everyone is weird or ugly there.

I'm interested in very private encounters because I need to explore my sexuality in a way where I can see where I stand. If it happens that I really enjoy it, then I don't mind coming out as bi. But in the beginning I have to see how it works without telling the whole world about it.

Cock and cum tastes amazing you'll love it bro

what the fuck is this quote compilation hahahahahahaha

FAAAAAAAGGOOOOOOOT

fairys wear boots and keep the hanglow on the downlow

I want to gag on your cock and get fucked bareback just don't want anybody to think I'm gay jajaja

I hate bipedos so much

serious advice here.
this is so unmasculine. go fuck somebody and see if you like it, if you dont you dont and if you do (which you probably will, first because you're having these thoughts and second because fucking a tgirl is basically just fucking a woman, youll need to fuck a femboy to see if youre actually okay with a guy) then whatever. you dont have to "come out as bi" just do what you want. this really doesnt have to be as life changing as you think it is. really, as long as youre comfortable and secure in your masculinity and your identity as a man, nobodys going to doubt you or even give a shit. its when people smell weakness and insecurity that it can become a problem for you, then maybe theyll see you different. and thats exactly the energy youre giving off. if youre bi then youre bi, and if you want to date a femboy or something one day well i guess thats just something people are going to find out about when it happens, no vulnerability, no shame, no awkwardness, you are who you are and you like who you like.

how do u feel about meeting ppl on discord? thats how the chasers here do it. go on soc find some tranny femboy servers. look at the chaser threads.. maybe ull find someone near u. its usually by chance trannies/femboys and their chasers meet irl

you're an insecure beta and you need to get over yourself. most of the people you're chasing are not gonna want to be with you if you're this insecure about your own sexuality, unless they're desperate and low-value. it's frankly just annoying as fuck to deal with guys like you and the sex is NEVER good. like this is sooooooooooooooo retarded. work on yourself first

No one deserves the baggage you come with, you're so insecure there's nothing you have to give to this wolrd except compliance and boot licking for fascistic pedos.

You're not a heterosexual. You're a filthy, pathetic closeted faggot. Get over it, bitch.

the most attractive thing a guy can do with a femboy or trans girl is be unashamed to be seen with them. being treated like your trophy girl is the fantasy and being unwilling or ashamed to be seen with them is such a massive turn off its insane.

I think you've misinterpreted my post. It's not so much that I'm insecure, it's that

because I'm unable to determine whether I actually like it or not, I have to tread carefully (on both physical and emotional level)

i have to keep these things private because there are real consequences to this (i can get fired or lose friends)

I don't want to get hurt and I don't want to hurt anyone. Maybe it's not for me. A lot of my good friends would tell me to fuck off if they learned about this, people that I can't afford to lose. If I had to choose between this and them, I would choose them every single time, they're that much important, in comparison exploring my sexuality is not that important. I can live with being a vanilla hetero boy. Please understand my position as someone who's not actually gay or bi, but is curious about things that are perhaps out of the bounds.

Get on any app they are on, mention you are straight. most trannies and femboys want to believe there is a glut of straight men who will have sex with them, and will not question that, so you are good

true.
"straight" guys fuck me and i am def a dude.

I have also seen literal fat bearded men in dresses claim they get "straight alphas." OP, just jump on that delusional bussy

no i didnt and i stand by what i said. nobody is going to tell you to fuck off as long as you dont make it seem like a big deal, like this makes you vulnerable. which it clearly does. and its a weakness that you cant afford to have if you want to even experiment. Just as an example, your parents likely arent going to think "i ended up with a fag son" if youre confident and masculine and never indicate you are even slightly interested in masculinity because thats really all that matters to conservatives outside of very small circumstances. The only question i have is how would it get you fired??

People that I know would absolutely resent me and exclude me from their circles if I step outside of the boundary, to the point where if I told them I have any curiosity whatsoever would end in a disaster. Logically you won't change your whole life and change all the people you know for the sake of something so unsubstantial. Curiosity is all I have.

It's understandable, you're very mentally ill

Ok, take some advice from me, I'm in a pretty fucked up situation.

many of the friends I grew up with, a couple of guys I played in bands with, became 1%ers which is pretty serious in my country.

Many also became skinheads or generally nazi aligned

They're my only boys and I know we would literally die or kill for each other

Recently got a case of the feels & steels for an alt chick, messed around with her

Turns out she's trans

Disgusted

Touched her dick by accident

Still railed her from behind anyway

Still have the feels

Trannies on here ask me to greentext it then dunk on me about it, laugh at "poor widdle chuddy" who "fell in love with a tranner"

They get mad at me for being grossed out like I could fucking help it any more than my feelings

Hate myself, have been drinking and thinking non stop, scared I'm going to hell on a harley, scared I'm gonna get AIDS etc;

Still thinking about her and extremely disappointed and completely confused in myself in many ways

Just don't do it unless you want to wind up blowing your own brains out, I literally had my vaquero out on the table the night it happened. Stay away, you don't need the complication in your life.
There are men who were lucky enough to grow up in soft liberal/yuppy rich cunt circles where there are no standards, and there are men like us who have no choice but to respect and honour tradition. It's a painful price but it is necessary for the survival of the west, because the liberals are the brains and we are the muscle, and without either it's over.

Walk away for fucks sake man.

you said you would be open to coming out but at the same time just wanna experiment cause to risky to be open about... make up your damn mind lol. i doubt thats even u in the pic. good luck

I said that if it turns out that I can enjoy femboys and trans girls to the full extent (physically and emotionally), then I wouldn't mind coming out as bi. But I don't fucking know if that's gonna happen, what's the point of doing it now?

You’re the one that needs to embrace tradition

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if youre doubtful it will happen, why are u even on here talking about it. dl chasers are all the same lmao. stop catfishing too

>Recently got a case of the feels & steels for an alt chick, messed around with her

>Turns out she's trans

>Disgusted

>Touched her dick by accident

>Still railed her from behind anyway

>Still have the feels

Can you describe the whole story? How can you be disgusted, touch her dick by accident and still end up having sex anyway?

bro wants someone to affirm his thoughts of wanting to just use trannies and femboys for sex only. lots of guys do it bro, u dont gotta post about pretending to care about them

Holy cringe

I'm not necessarily doubtful, all of this has started with me connecting emotionally with a tgirl on discord, then I happened to watch some porn with that kind of stuff and that's how my curiosity developed. But that's still all digital, hence why it can't be categorized as anything other than pure curiosity, even if lust is a part of it.

Situation was already cooking like a hand grenade in a muslims pocket, she stopped me from rubbing her pussy once and warned me, I was suffering from a severe case of dickbrain and not listening, overpowered her and copped a handful through her jeans at the same time that she explicitly warned me that it's there. Was horny, figured she would put out because gays are fucking promiscuous, asked if I could do her right there and I guess I'd heated her up enough by that point that she too figured there was no going back.
I realise not throwing her out there and then & not noticing sooner means I lost my footing on the kinsey scale and have bumped my head into fagland, and I was never a tranny or fag hater but I never expected to be a fag myself. And I know it's completely socially unacceptable where I'm at. And all that means less to me than the guilt of how I treated her, in person and referring to her as him here on 4chinks when I made the thread. I got chewed the fuck out by the trannies here for doing that.

holy cringe

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What was the sex like? You said you're not a faggot but how did it feel in the moment?

im going to debase myself a little to try and help here, i mean the best place to start is by understanding why trans women are women, looking into the science of it and whatever. but a better way of looking at it for you is probably, sure, you fucked a chick with a dick, but shes still a chick. "shemale" is a straight porn category for a reason. you saw her as a woman before you knew what she was packing and perception is reality. in what way was this alt girl a man besides her junk? did she make you feel like a fag? or did you make yourself feel like a fag. "there are men like us who have no choice but to respect and honour tradition" i understand why you feel like fucking a tranny is non traditional, because in a lot of ways that thinking makes sense, theyre typically associated with the left and progressivism. but know there are a lot of trans girls who grew up conservative and remain conservative after they transition. they go to church want a husband want kids. they're just girls who were fucked up by their development. they had a female developed brain but incorrectly developed bodys. now there are some people who call themselves "trans" out there who are men in dresses, its pretty obvious. and doesnt it make you sad that those fakes those men playing dress up ruined this medically messed up alt girl for you? dont direct those feelings at her or yourself. you knew you were fucking a woman. its just your perceptions caused by the "people can identify however they want" gender ideology crowd that have fucked it up for you. that have fucked it up for her too.

Please I don't want to talk about it, it was shameful. Nothing bad on her part, but shameful of me I initiated everything and did some depraved shit. I was very drunk and lacking inhibition when I posted the thread.

Listen man, I come from conservative background, I live in a conservative country but we have to keep our minds open to experiences and stimuli that go beyond the norm. Not saying that you should do anything you want, but if you did it and it wasn't the worst thing ever, then I wouldn't feel too bad about it. You don't have to do it again, but I'd like to get your perspective on this, as I'm curious myself. It's not really that bad.

kys. dl men don't deserve to live. they DEFINITELY don't deserve to not be "outed"

Honestly I really liked her and still do, I'm not into anal at all but I very badly needed to nut. When she agreed I flipped her over and took her pants off, couldn't get it in at all, don't have lube because I've been alone for a few years focusing on my business and before that I was always in LTRs never ever casual sex, where we took our time, had plenty of foreplay and the girls were always wet & ready. I am a big time ass man, love eating ass, love eating pussy, so I dove in, physically it was fine it was clean and hairless no different from female angus, but mentally I was fucking dying inside knowing what I was doing and just tried to get through it. Combination of pre-tonguing and some EVOO from the dining table + help from my thumb got the tip in and I just kept adding oil until it was a fucking mess and trying to slide it in bit by bit til I had enough space to build constant momentum, which I really need because I suffer from being a drummer kek. It felt good and I got my nut off then drove her home silently. She likely felt used and she's a pretty amazing person so the guilt was already eating me on the drive home. That and just generally being disgusted with myself. I can say in my defence that I always encouraged people to not buy into the culture war and be kind to gays, trannies, well-meaning (not smug/spiteful) commies etc; because the world must have equilibrium so I don't think I am a hypocrite, but I'm definitely not comfortable with the fact that I got a taste for boymeat and it's fucking with my head and making me wanna end it.

I really really liked her as a woman. I still like her face, personality and ( . ) ( . ) assets. It's just an unpleasant situation but I'm grateful to you for trying to understand me, you're a good one also pretty based.

If you enjoyed being intimate with her on the basis of just two people having sex without thinking who's who or what's what, then that matters the most in the end I think. But then again I'm speaking from position of someone who never got that far, or anywhere at all, I only dated cis girls. I think it's already an accomplishment to have sex with someone you like in the first place, don't you think? Do you keep in touch with her?

I haven't spoken to her since it happened and she's meant to be my bassist. She probably thinks I was just trying to get in her pants but I genuinely can't play bass for shit and just happened to catch the feels & steels. I can't help you find trannies or femboys because I never met any til now that I'm aware of, but now I know I might have, but I can tell you that if you try this out and you fall for one and you are in the kind of social situation I think you are, you may have to get comfortable with losing your friends or at least reputation, potentially getting into fight(s) at the worst or denying yourself from someone you want. If you thought you were straight and it happens it's going to mess you up mentally but you might find love and happiness. It's your call I hope some good anon can steer you towards some trannies and femboys.

u could add me on disc

how can you be straight, fall for a trans girl and then feel remorse or confusion? if you were very straight, you wouldn't do it, if you do it, then it means you didn't mind doing it, come on. if you didn't mind doing it, then what's the fucking problem?

I dunno bro it just happened, the fuck do you expect me to reply? Do you think I studied gayism? I didn't even finish high school. I was not a fag one minute, the next I was. It's over.

my point is that a straight guy would never go for it, if you can do it, it means it's in you, which makes it okay. you just did what was right for you.

because straight men haven't accepted that liking trans women is straight yet. he fucked what his subconscious mind and body perceived as a woman which is just how the biology of human male sexuality works. but it doesnt fit as cleanly into societies sociological boxes so he feels like a fag for it, even though he really isnt, so theres a weird split between reality and his perception of reality.

super incorrect

straight men never go outside cis women because cis women provide a better experience overall, everything is natural, the attraction is always natural, the pheromones, everything. a straight guy, an actual straight guy has no reason ever to have an experience that is not heterosexual in nature

it's not gay. gay men aren't attracted to us. gay men are constantly trying to undermine our ability to transition because they think they're losing potential bottoms. I'm as repulsed by gays as you are.

You were always a faggot Harry

Thanks I guess mate

Cute tummy
That navel was made for playing with

I need to lick it

Well I don't know, I know I didn't rail her for gay reasons like "I want man ass on muh dick" but I'm pretty sure a completely straight man would have noped the fuck out. I don't think I can be completely gay either because I LOVE women and think about them a lot, I think I'm just somewhere between the two, it's just a complete shock to find out so late in life. One of the anons in the thread I posted said I have unlocked bisexual superpowers if that's even a real thing.

The so called bi curiosity is a meme. If you have been straight your whole life, just stay in that lane. There is nothing for you out there. Stick to women, if they bore you, find those that are more interesting. Seeking trannies while being straight is like having a cute girl available at all times and still choosing a faggot who's barely 1/10th of the cute girl.

Now, here's the real advice:

Absolutely no porn from now on

Socialize more and get to know more girls

Be busy with shit

Do all that for a while and you'll never feel the "curiosity" ever again, promise.

you are so wrong its actually funny anon. hrt changes male biology into female biology changing literally everything that hasnt been permanently established (bones, cock) but if humans had pheromones trans women would have female ones. the thing youre probably thinking of where male and female natural musk can be arousing if you're biologically compatible, yeah trans women smell like females. gay men arent attracted to trans women, straight men are, and its like that for a reason. trans women develop the secondary sex characteristics of females that males like, their skin becomes soft like a cis womans, any body hair is thinned out like a cis womans, they develop natural curves, breasts. trans women dont fall neatly into the box of male or female sure, but if youre fucking her because you developed feelings for her as a woman, youre sexually attracted to her as a woman, what exactly makes it gay? the chromosomes youre fucking? the cock youre not looking at? yes straight men will primarily go for cis women, but your subconscious mind genuinely thinks you can also breed a tranny. thats why it still arouses straight men.

an actual straight guy has no reason ever to have an experience that is not heterosexual in nature

we can go even further down the rabbit hole of straight people IN GENERAL arent as straight as they think they are when we look at prisons as a modern example and rome as a historical one. but i know straight people arent ready for that discussion yet.
a lesser man*

Mate I love how you can be so wrong about something yet so cocksure. I think they call that the dunning-kreuger effect. I pray for your sake you never meet one that's sufficiently convincing to get under your radar because you my brother in christ, will not survive it psychologically.

I can't comment on the porn, girls and business focus because I never had the urge to actively find them or look at them, but I believe in sexual sublimation so I agree that it's beneficial for avoiding unwanted thoughts.

Where am I wrong in that post, exactly? The girl I posted in pic rel, you can find so many girls like that at any club, festival or any social event. A trans girl looking like that is like 1 in a million, let's be real. Do you not understand the absurdity of that?

innaned

lmao one problem. those girls arent going to fuck you anon.

I have only really ever personally witnessed 1 trans girl in my life and regular girls where I live don't look like that pic, it's a photoshoot for Gods sake man. I'm not saying go date a tranny or regular girls aren't great, just don't be so sure that your opinion is fact. There are black swan events for all kinds of things in life.

please stop trying to convince guys with nice abs to not sleep with me.

another disgusting chaser who see us as fetish object. People like you are the one of the reasons I hate men.