Is anybody else absolutely disgusted by people that troon out after getting married and having kids?

so what do you want them to do? repress forever? pretty sure they tried that and that's what got them that family in the first place.
they don't choose to blow up their life any more than you did when your youngshit ass transitioned

literally don't care and not my problem. People should do what makes them happy in life.

t. MtF trooned at 16

Yes. This is a 100% guaranteed tell that the person does not have genuine dysphoria and is fake trans. These kind of people should be shamed for their reprehensible behavior

this. It really falls under the mind your own business umbrella of things to worry about.
Have you ever heard the saying "don't set yourself on fire to keep others warm". You can't be as good of a parent if you are not in harmony with yourself. And someone who is consciously repping "for the kids" will subconsciously resent them. The kids might be fucked either way but are probably less fucked with a hon parent than an angry repper.

so what do you want them to do? repress forever?

Yes.

Not marry someone while repressing in the first place.

people who have GD can pass it on to their child.
troons who had children are disgusting

so what do you want them to do? repress forever?

Yep. Once they had kids their life became about somebody else. Those kids need a father.

"don't set yourself on fire to keep others warm"

Being a parent means willingly signing up for this deal. Having children means constantly putting their needs ahead of your own. The most extreme case is when a parent has to sacrifice themselves for their kid.

lfmao its based, fuck cis foids and kids

No, but I am disgusted with entitled youngshits who think everything was always as easy as ordering a turn yourself into a girl kit from your iphone. Things got too easy. Now you'll see.

Alexandra

Hon name

so what do you want them to do? repress forever?

correct. If you've had children you should not transition. Those kids deserve a father figure, not a boomerhon mom who is probably AGP.

well humans want to procreate and thats why a mtf and ftm repper sometimes team up, have kids and troon out on each other in their 40s

kids need a father.

you say this to lesbians adopting/IVF/whatever too?

disgust is subjective

in my opinion you can't properly care about other people if you don't look after yourself. Like it might be awkward or embarrassing to have a parent whose a hon and nothing about being trans prevents you from being a caring paren. But having a mentally ill bitter repper as your dad is probably going to be worse especially if they cope negatively or 41%

all children need both a male and female parent or at least role model.
however, two lesbian mothers is better than one suffering straight mother and a hon mother.

Its probably not good for the child but im sure they're doing much, much, worse things to their kids, like sending them to public school, and also vaccinating them.

it's like divorce. if you absolutely have to do it, wait until the kids are independent and out of the house.

NTA but I don't think the issue is kids not having a father per se. If you don't have a father in your family from birth, you can always find male role models elsewhere. It's that these kids HAVE had a father for years, he's almost certainly a male role model to them, and now he's given up on being male altogether.

its weird to think im at the age where a lot of people start having kids, i still feel like a child

I think it's better to troon and THEN get married and have kids.

Not them but yes unironically I think kids need a dad and a mom and gay/lesbian couples shouldn’t raise kids. The only people who should be raising kids are cis and trans straight couples

t. Cis dyke

repress forever?

100%. If you marry under false pretenses and father kids under false pretenses you can keep living under false pretenses. It clearly wasn't a problem before!

Also, late-onset gender dysphoria is as fake as ROGD. You know early or at puberty, not when you turn fucking 33.

yep, it's extremely disgusting agp behavior. like mfer your dysphoria was so bad you became a husband and a father and THEN trooned out? no actual tranny would do this, theyre just disgusting pornsick agps, and the retards who peddle that tenderqueer shit about "they always knew but were just repping" are naive trenders and need to go back to tumblr

so much this

yep.
by puberty it will have strong tells.
like i knew and would be upset about being boy and seeing my body puberty signs coming in was very bothering to me. i was getting ugly.

the most functional couple I have seen in my life (raising a kid) was a gay couple. every straight couple seems to just be coasting on "well, one of us has testicles and the other has ovaries so it will somehow work itself out". the gay couple tries harder at everything, and it shows.

what’s so weird to me is how do u comfortably live as a straight man for over 30 years, marry a woman, have 2 kids and then suddenly decide u wanna be a woman? something just seems off, like just super agp and midlife crisis.

how do you know if they're living comfortably? you wouldn't say this if he left her to be a gay guy.

i would, id really question why he’d spend that time not dating another man

you wouldn't say this if he left her to be a gay guy.

Literally would, I would strongly question how a man born in fucking 1991 could *accidentally* think he liked pussy for 20 years and THEN realize it was cock he wanted all along. A woman realizing she's lesbian, maybe, foids are so unbelievably conformist it injures my frontal lobe just to think about it, but a man? Just not figuring out that twink ass is his Kryptonite? Fuck all the way off, men know like their entire catalog of future fetishes by age 13.

I love the double standards, or rather, the anything goes rule for women, and the zero tolerance policy for men. Kind of a harris/trump vibe except the genders are swapped.

I would believe that women do this because women are retarded but not men since they are not

rrreee double standards, blatant foid favoritism!!!

Nigga R U for real

Wrapping misandry in a thin veneer of "misogyny" to make your point more palatable to Anon Babble, I understand the move but I will not dignify it by attempting to debate you on your terms

Please show the class a single case of a woman who got married to a man and birthed children suddenly deciding to poon out in her 30s. We'll wait.

its tragic but it makes me feel at least somewhat better about being so dysfunctional that ive never had a gf

here and this is actually a really good point as well, further weakening the homo/troon analogy. I have indeed literally never heard of that, the closest thing I can think of is those wack 40-something women who cut their hair short and totally desexualize themselves to the dismay of their husbands, but that definitely isn't about gayness, it's just some sort of weirdly consistent foidal midlife crisis, trying to act like you lost your youth on purpose because you didn't like it or someting, IDK.

You are an idiot. I am not going to indulge your cretinism further than that.

The reason poons can rep indefinitely is obvious. If an afab has a non-erect vagina the man won't immediately shame her and deny her femininity and say there must be another man and she must be a lesbian and a poon repper and why is she lying to everyone and using him as a beard, thus making her more self conscious, thus making her vagina go even limper in an infinite spiral of shame, recriminations, emasculation, performance anxiety, and shame. That's because vaginas are just holes for putting dicks in. They don't stop being holes just because the owner of the hole isn't feeling it tonight.

No U

not them, but i think breaking up a relationship for anything other than straight up abuse after having kids is an awful thing to do in general, at least until they are fully grown. this includes trooning since you are completely changing yourself as a person - there's obviously very little chance a romantic relationship is going to survive that and troons should get the full blame.

Most of the time the john 50 wants to stay with the wife but the wife is disgusted by him, as you are now, so there's really no other option than to leave. Trans widows are self-made

thin veneer of "misogyny"

Bruh that anon straight up has an AD 24 attitude to women, it's hardly a veneer

They don't stop being holes just because the owner of the hole isn't feeling it tonight.

the owner of the hole

You mean the guy?

Not really if they're older, they didn't have the chances we have. But millennials and younger don't have an excuse.

Not really, it's the modern enlightened "we're different and that's fine" take on fembrain/malebrain, it only looks misogynistic from a 2nd wave feminist pov

Nice

In other words you can't find a single example, got it. Please fuck off now retard

Trans widows are self-made

Yes these straight women are choosing to not be gaslit into dating a gigahon with a midlife crisis who wants to convince her he was actually a woman all along and she is actually a lesbian. They did it to themselves and definitely did do not do what any rational woman in that situation would do and gtfo. How fucking delusional and stupid are you?

I don't really care about people I don't interact with day to day

so you're just going to stamp your feet and double down on your stupidity, what a surprise

To be fair, I completely empathize with people who do that because they very likely mistook their genuine desires and gender dysphoria for wanting the stability of a job and family. Think about whenever you hear something like "I don't want to date right now I want to focus on school/work" and you can imagine this being true with people who know or don't even know about their dysphoria due to repression. What's stopping someone from wanting to settle down before they take the steps to transition? Not everyone has the privilege to transition just like that and just as quickly as some people, imagine a minimum wage worker who doesn't have the time, cash, or support to transition? Wouldn't it be better for them to try and make their position better before they focus on something that is trivial compared to paying rent?

do you guys think the man is repping or what breaks in his brain to suddenly want to be a woman

literally don't care and not my problem. People should do what makes them happy in life.

Sorry kids fuck you daddy needs to be happy LOL why do u care what I'm doing?

exactly everyone here is underestimating how severely you can stuff your feelings, especially if you come from a tight-knit controlling community. It's still ass for the rest of the family.

you don't seem to realize that same the way you look at the person in that pic, society looks at you

You assume any of your delusional bullshit is worth meaningfully engaging with, but it's not

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what the tranny wants to do is irrelevant in light of their actions. if you have over 50 iq you know that cutting off your dick and deciding to live as the opposite gender is going to destroy your existing romantic relationships, they made their choice. even if there was a magic button to 100% perfectly trans you into a cis woman, anyone who seriously thinks that the person they sleep with won't care either way has brain damage. let alone if you act like a typical narcissistic hon and expect everyone to coddle you despite putting 0 effort into your transition.

NOOOO you dont understand the trans widows decided to destroy their family by not sucking the girldick!!

I stand by what I said. Kids need a mom and a dad which is why I’ll never have or adopt kids as a cis lesbian. If you are married and have kids and want to transition to female it is your duty to divorce your wife and find a husband if you still want to be in your kids life then your kids can be split between two healthy households of straight parents.

I was raised by a single mom and it's fine

I mean they got married as a man, made it the ripe old age of 33, and then got someone pregnant TWICE. I would rather take a cheese grater to my dick than impregnate someone. Their dysphoria clearly hasn't been a problem until now so I think they can at least wait a few more years for the kids to be off to college.

you ended up here on tttt....

I don't think my father being present on my life would've changed how I felt about my body and gender ever since I was a kid. If anything him pushing me to be more masculine (he'd do that he's that kind of man) would make me transition even earlier.

Ruining a family is abominable

noooo you can't just break up a relationship!

ok let's not

nooooo you can't just stay together! what you want is irrelevant!

sounds to me like you just want to take out your rage at someone. never underestimate the appetite for a marginalized person to have someone to punch down on

Midlife crisis, fetishism, in some cases an attempt to escape from accountability for their actions (as in, actual crimes) but that one's rare.

fatherless

sorry to hear you dad is black anon

Only if they
= have no apparent anxiety and guilt for whatever the process inflicts on their wife and children
= if they expect the wife to stay with them and react with indignation and outrage if she doesn't

A shocking number of people actually seem to think it's reasonable to expect the wife to stay in the relationship and will accuse her of lovelessness and Prejudice if she doesn't. I've seen this attitude in communities I thought were less extreme and it might not always get a lot of support but it seems to be tacitly condoned.
I also don't think people should be eaten alive with guilt for an error borne out of massive confusion and justifiable fear but I think if the person has little to no guilt about it then there's something wrong with them.

And DESU I kind of wonder if a disproportionate number of married transitioners are dark triad because more conscientious people are held back not just by taboo and fear of their own life consequences but profound angst over how their loved ones will be affected by it= even if it's the right thing for everyone in the long run.

The frequently blind validation of trans communities (or other communities for marginalized people) can be a haven for toxic people seeking to justify all their actions and who know people will hesitate to criticize and judge them.

Transphobia and other types of group prejudice are unfortunately often the response to toxic people not only being part of X group but using their identity in X group as a sword and shield to attack victims and defend against any valid criticism.
If you read the trans widows stories, it seems like the majority of them had narcissistic husbands who transitioned. And the communities who good-heartedly supported those husbands unwittingly helped to gaslight their victims.

But you're right. Lots of people who just want to hate trans people jump on stories about remorseless people to justify their hatred and to frame all trans people as toxic.l

I think the idea is the same as people think about divorce now. The divorce is better than the parents staying in a strained unhappy marriage. The lesser of two evils.

A happy hon father could be better for children than a neurotic repper.
If they are narcissist then this rule wouldn't apply because the narcissistic behavior would just continue or might actually get worse.

The divorce is better than the parents staying in a strained unhappy marriage. The lesser of two evils.

It literally isn't though. This is just some fable shit divorced people tell themselves to evade guilt. In reality, divorced parents is one of the worst indicators for a child's life outcomes that exists. There are clear and strong statistics on this. It's literally worse than witnessing your dad regularly beating your mom like a gong, worse than your dad shooting himself or getting killed in a war, worse than your entire family becoming homeless due to a natural disaster. In fact, it's almost certainly worse than your dad trooning out on you.

A happy hon father could be better for children than a neurotic repper.

The above notwithstanding, doubt.jpg

There are people who don't realize they're gay until 30 or 40 or fuck even like 70. And that's way easier to figure out than gender identity.

The human mind is quite impressive with how much it can repress and disassociate and compartmentalize shit.

It's hard to Fathom for anyone born after like 1990 how the world saw and treated gay and trans people before and how much it fucked with their brains from early childhood.

It's hard to Fathom for anyone born after like 1990 how the world saw and treated gay and trans people before and how much it fucked with their brains from early childhood.

The guy in OP pic is 33; he was born in 1991, you dolt.

A lot of divorces aren't done healthily though. And if you compare outcomes for children of all divorce couples versus all married couples then yeah it's going to look better for married. The majority of married couples would presumably be people who didn't have relationship so terrible that divorce was advisable anyway.

And if you compare outcomes for children of all divorce couples versus all married couples then yeah it's going to look better for married. The majority of married couples would presumably be people who didn't have relationship so terrible that divorce was advisable anyway.

Did you read what I wrote? You can compare outcomes for children of divorced couples with outcomes for *only the children of chronically physically abusive* couples and the divorce kids still come off worse! Divorce is *super bad* for kids, it's not even really known why, but it demonstrably is.

My point was that this degree of confusion and repression is less understandable to young people, not that it doesn't happen anymore.
There are also still gay people born after 1990 in the west who don't realize until middle age.
It doesn't mean they aren't really gay.
Fewer people live their entire lives without cluing in and more of them decide to live openly.