The female body is demonic

You're already a grotesque female

Not OP but I could've been a cute loli girl if it weren't for my GD. Sure, some ftms are morbidly obese, in which case your theory would make sense, but in my case I have always been thin and decent looking, it's just that there is not a single aspect of the female body that is appealing to me and I'm glad I'm getting rid of that shit.

i have never wished body swapping was real more than right now

You say that until your yaoi twink fantasy is shattered when you start going bald and become hairy like an ape.

Do you get your pussy drilled and your tits milked often?

I'd rather be bald than female. Also, finasteride exists, being bald is a choice.

finasteride exists

Holy KEK
You think thats going to save you? Finasteride works by lowring your T levels. (which is why its used as an anti-androgen) It will not save you, at best it can slow things down but most of that depends on how much T you're taking and your genetics. Some guys get the shit stick and go bald at 18 and once that shit is gone most of it will never come back. Remember when you finally detransition:

You singed up for this

It blocks DHT. DHT is what causes balding.
On top of that, I don't have balding genes and have been on T for a while, so I don't actually need to take fin. I'm just saying that most people who go bald don't actual make any effort to stop it from happening, they just let it happen and then bitch and moan about it much like fat people. There are options for those who do have balding genes.
Also even if you for some reason had to stop taking T to avoid balding, you could still get top and bottom surgery and stay trans.

It blocks DHT

The only way to block DHT is to block testosterone. Finasteride block testosterone.

It doesn't block all of it.

no but it blocks enought to be an anti-androgen MTFs use

They use it alongside E.

No, the female body is awesome. I just don't like it on myself

i may be female but at least i’m not bald, fat, or hairy

cute fanfiction, but if i were male i’d immediately go on blockers and hrt to prevent uglification

fin causes liver and kidney damage over time

what a stupid fucking cow
imagine seeing this shit every time you catch your reflection
the only reason this chick hasn’t roped yet is probably because of simpbucks and temporary validation, she has like zero inherent value otherwise

Gay

bald

You could still get bald as you age.

fat

You will get fatter as you age.

hairy

You still have body hair, it's just distributed in a female pattern.

Meanwhile I'm on T, I'm thin, I have a full head of hair, and not too much body hair.

HRT can cause damage over time too so of you're already on T it shouldn't matter.

You could still get bald as you age.

there are treatments for this in menopause age, and it usually just gets thinner
androgens directly affect the hair follicles and cause them to fall out, so this is a male-specific issue like i said

You will get fatter as you age.

ectomorphs with a faster metabolism tend to remain lean, especially when they continue with healthy habits
i *refuse* to become a fat fuck

You still have body hair,

nope i wax and shave all of it

There are treatments for MPB. Finasteride, for one.
Testosterone doesn't make you fat. Estrogen does.
You can still shave your body hair on T.
You're just in denial and trying to justify your decision to repress by making up a fake scenario where testosterone would instantly turn you into a monster, even though you clearly already hate your appearance and see yourself as a female monster.

I think it's the exact opposite.

And I don't say this with any kind of bias. I'm a straight cis guy. So you know I'm speaking from an outside perspective.

The feminine body is the most admirable. Not to say that it is "perfect". but it is the closest to "perfect" we have. When we think of "beauty", we imagine a womanly figure, but we never imagine a man.

Men are disgusting, hairy, smelly, brutish, ogre-like figures. Women, by comparison, are "the fairer sex", they are pretty, soft, fragrant, elf-like.

You're straight so it makes sense that you'd think women are beautiful. Not everything thinks that, though. I certainly don't.

Finasteride

see >Testosterone doesn't make you fat.
didn’t say it did

You can still shave your body hair on T.

androgenized body hair is darker and coarse and will grow everywhere including the face
the thought of that happening makes me want to kill myself more than being female does

blah blah blah denial

i’ve made this decision years ago when i knew that nothing could grant me the male anatomy i wanted
absolutely nothing
not even test, which will objectively turn me into an ugly woman and you know this, your blue pilling will only work on retarded redditpoons who genuinely believe in a fairytale sex-transmuting elixir

Young men are more open and frank than women, and their handsome bodies offer a sharper stimulus to pleasure.

Achilles Tatius, Leucippe and Clitophon 2.35

Long hair and fretted curls give me no pleasure, Things taught in the school of Art, not Nature. I prefer the dusty grime of a boy fresh from the wrestling ring and the oil-glistened hue of his limbs' flesh.

Straton of Sardis (AG 12.192)

It is only the man whose intellect is clouded by his sexual instinct that could give that stunted, narrow-shouldered, broad-hipped, and short-legged race the name of the fair sex; for the entire beauty of the sex is based on this instinct. One would be more justified in calling them the unaesthetic sex than the beautiful.

Arthur Schopenhauer

Die.

She was literally balding before T...you people are retarded.

I'm biased like everyone but I really think an androgynous body is the most universally 'aesthetic' - if you accept that the universally aesthetic must be, by default, a little bit boring and impersonal and severe. you know how ugly things are often the most beautiful? well, in a sanitised sense of beauty that doesn't appreciate the personal beauty in imperfection, I think an androgynous, flat-chested person wins out. not stinky and hairy like a man, not curvy and imbalanced like a woman

Take finasteride and shave dumbass.

the thought of that happening makes me want to kill myself more than being female does

If that's the case then truly you're not that dysphoric and really shouldn't transition. If body hair is, in your eyes, worse than a female body, your problem might be something else entirely and you'd be just as unhappy even if you were born male.

turn me into an ugly woman and you know this

I think all women are ugly by default so no, I don't know.

I think an androgynous, flat-chested person wins out

Skinny andro youthful ftms stay winning

yeah but like a lame gay impersonal sense of aesthetics though. like you go out and see a Greek statue of a 'skinny andro youthful ftm' but u come home and yr wife is like, short and a bit chubby and has an irresistible smile. or whatever it is you personally like. but you wouldn't get that

I am the skinny andro youthful ftm and I'm also short and my smile is nice so checkmate

u r already winning dude, you're someone's ideal partner, that was the point

u r already winning dude

You're god damn right I am

you'd be just as unhappy even if you were born male.

i would not, if i also had the means to feminize myself in that body. it’s literally the only thing i want in this world

short

fat

these are flaws. the wife is inferior

You're obsessed with the idea that fin will cause you to die for some reason.
Also, you can just get an electrolysis if you hate body hair that much.

yeah I knew you wouldn't get it

That's a different anon by the way I got what you meant

You mean you want to be mtf?

yeah I just know the bottom of the barrel posters on this board are too autistic and/or weak to understand subjectivity or value their own. the idea of 'the objectively most beautiful' is inherently pretentious and cringe

But objectively I win though

coping whale

not really since i’m also terminally disgusted by female sex characteristics, so i’d still bind my chest and present masculine

lol yeah I knew you wouldn't get it

No, no, I get it, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and everyone has a different idea of what an ideal partner is. I get it.
But I still win.

no, you don't get it. if you got it like I did you wouldn't care about 'winning'

But you said I won

anon, my point is proved, there's nothing more to say

Your point is that I'm the ultimate life form aesthetically speaking