Do you believe in this theory?
Do you believe in this theory?
I think resistance to social conditioning makes autistic people susceptible to online gender ideology stuff, particularly because it organically developed with the intention of appealing to autistics.
gets shoved with the point in its face
still decides to do olympic level gymnastics around it
God, you're insufferable
Austistics troon out especially autistic males because life as an autistic male is hell and autistic woman are treated far better
Respectfully, I’d challenge the assumption that autistic people are uniquely “susceptible” to ideas simply because they question norms. Critical thinking—questioning and seeking belonging—isn’t a vulnerability; it’s human. Many autistic individuals, like all of us, engage thoughtfully with identity, guided by personal ethics and community. Framing this as exploitation underestimates their agency.
Gender exploration isn’t “ideology.” It’s part of a broader conversation about dignity, fairness, and self-determination—values we all share. The military, which I serve, teaches that strength lies in unity amid diversity. Our Founders fought for freedoms that protect personal journeys, and Lincoln reminded us that a house divided cannot stand. Let’s focus on bridging divides, not reducing complex human experiences to targeting or weakness. Together, we can build a society where everyone’s story is heard with respect.
dont you turn your book to the side so you can more easily draw a straight underline with your shoulder instead of wrist
ok
I think there's just a lot of selfID autistic trenders in the surveys they get statistics from. theyfabs or hefabs specifically. girls are the most likely to fall into social contagions, and autism can make them feel alienated from other girls, making them think they're not girls and must be trans. even more so with the "you don't need dysphoria to be trans. gender is fun uwu" bullshit now.
didn’t understand
Ok so like fidget spinners. Autistics loved fidget spinners. Gender ideology (this shit) is a cognitive fidget spinner.
And that’s not anything nefarious, it’s like that because it was created (it’s contemporary iteration) by and for people with autism.
Who fucking strokes like that?
Literally no hand eye coordination lmao
Do auties really?
niggerbabble again
no response
i go back and forth on this, i'm not actually sure it's correct.
i think there are a lot of safeguards in the normal human mind that keep people from doing anything too weird, because most weird things in the EEA were bad for you. a lot of those safeguards are mediated by impulses to do what people around you say is normal. autistic people are missing some of these or have them not functioning correctly. so far so good. but autism isn't the only thing that can break those guardrails. sociopathy can, schizophrenia can. do those correlate with transness in the same way? i think at one point i saw a claim that schiz did but weaker than tism, i've never seen a claim that ASPD does (though i wouldn't necessarily expect to, because it's a radioactive topic).
Neurotypicals made up the lie that autists are somehow less immune to propaganda to appease them and these retards believed it.
*less susceptible
Wow. That was impressive. You recited every false anti-trans and anti-autistic talking point you ever heard. Anything creative or new though that you thought up yourself?
Actually that was discovered through studies. Those things you hate.
you recited every anti religious talking point therefore god is real
so you don’t have a rebuttal to them? You started the thread
advertising toward neurotypicals fails to reach autistics
So how are you dumb fucks gonna reconcile this applying to gay men too lol?
I'm autistic ADHD tranny. I discovered my autism years after I found out I'm a tranny.
I don’t actually know what point you’re attempting to make tho? Can you condense your retarded non sequitur study posting into a single sentence? What are you actually trying to get people to think?
this is consistent with both the "autistic people are immune to propaganda" hypothesis and the "autistic people don't perceive gender in the same way as allistic people in the first place" hypothesis.
i'm not the fidget spinner guy, he's retarded. autistic trans people are legitimately trans and should not be blocked from transitioning, i'm just not sure about the exact mechanism behind the correlation.
legitimately trans
how is one delegitimately trans?
Two other common correlations with being trans and autism are ADHD and autoimmune conditions. No one knows why those four have so much correlation yet, unfortunately.
Still niggerbabble
There is no base rate for bupkis because it’s all strategized for environmental fit. Reduce pressure on trannies and you’ll get more of them from all demos, it’s not truth, it’s just physics
What the fuck are you talking about?
i buy it. so many trans men end up detransing due to social pressure but when you talk to them it's obvious they're still dysphoric.
makes sense to me
t. autistic male
I just find this response pretty funny given OP started like 5
“autistics are immune to propaganda”
threads tonight and you just accepted it.. so easily
because it lines up with personal observations and experience.
that’s often how it is
resistance to social conditioning makes autistic people susceptible to online gender ideology stuff
which is another form of social conditioning...?
autistic resistance to social conditioning means that akshually they're MORE easily socially conditioned just by le scary digital stuff
Dumbest post I've read on here all week. I applaud your bravery in writing something so obviously contradictory and stupid, and then posting it with complete sincerity.
i’ve always thought this was some crazy super power for a tranny
if you’re too self aware and socially conscious you end up a repper unless you can mog, but even then you might wait too long out of fear
Based. You're my fav poster. Keep @ it queen/king/wtv gender of royalty you identify yourself w/.
you didn’t understand the post
social conditioning fails because it’s neurotypical conditioning, not because it’s conditioning
neurodivergent social conditioning works because it formed to meet demand where neurotypical conditioning failed
autism invalidates a gender dysphoria diagnosis. they're literally supposed to test you for co-morbidities to discern the validity of your condition.
back in my day i had to be interviewed by an entire board of physicians and complete a multitude of tests. they literall made me take an iq test, but wouldn't share with me the results of it. obviously i was intelligent enough and of sound mind to engage in treatment. gatekeeping was legit.
now? asshats rubberstamped so much bullshit that it's all falling apart.
Using Autism to exclude a gender dysphoria diagnoses would be idiotic since autism, ADHD, gender dysphoria and autoimmune conditions share a much larger than chance correlation for reasons that aren't yet understood.
Everyone understands why autistic males attempt to transition, but it has nothing to do with dysphoria and everything to do with the fact that they're rejected from society because of their failure to behave like proper human beings. I'm sure they notice and they're well aware that autistic females do not suffer nearly as badly, due to various factors in which people coddle female spergs. But you can't cheat the system or game your way out of it by transitioning unless you actually have the feminine mystique, which some homos do, but no autistic males do, ever.
maybe in modern transgenderism where they don't enforce rigid diagnostic criteria.
co-morbidities invalidate a gender dysphoria diagnosis.
the reason we see a correlation now where there wasn't previously is the expansion of the populous to be more inclusive.
oh why's it gd and adhd? because they can focus, but their gd inhibits their ability to remained focused because they're reacting to things like microaggressions constantly. little things like the pharmacist calling you by the wrong name to be smug. ruins the whole interaction. i'm not going to flip out on you and make a scene over it. i just might not want to look you in the eyes because i feel threatened by you. that inability to make eye contact isn't autism, but cis people will misrepresent it as such. it reflects a power dynamic whereby trans people are treated as third class citizens and if they aren't on their best behavior they get called violent aggressive men. as an example, is the angry black woman stereotype because she can't control herself or is it because racist white people dog whistle at her all day until she reaches her breaking point?
many of you don't understand the nuances of the sociological impact like jane goodall does.
This would be idiotic, since the only comorbidity shown to be associated with discontinuation of HRT later on is schizophrenia, and by extension probably anything related to psychosis. jahonline.org
Autism is specifically indicated to NOT be associated with later discontinuation. It's practically irrelevant.
detransitioners are schizo's!
then that means they were never trans to begin with.
I recommend reading the full thing to understand it, there were a number of factors associated with discontinuation. One of them was being Christian. Another was having schizophrenia. In terms of screening of patients, anyone with comorbid schizophrenia and gender dysphoria probably should be screened more carefully, but this wasn't apparent with autists.
There might be some truth to it. My experience as an autist is that yes, I have resistance to social conditioning, but then on the other hand I'm also all the time at lost of who I am. What is my place in the society? Why doesn't people like me? Who am I?
I'm a bit older than most you guys. I'm not trans, but I'm pretty sure that if someone in my youth would have told me that transitioning is the answer to all my social problems, I might have believed it.
particularly because it organically developed with the intention of appealing to autistics.
100% this. A lot of trans ideology is feels very similar to quirky autistic experimentation and doesn't overtly address gender dysphoria. When you compound the harmful rhetoric that "uncomfortable with your body means you're trans" that's pervasive in the trans community, autistic people get almost manipulated into claiming to be transgender despite exherting zero of the actual symptoms.
Autistic people find more relatedness with the same sex because the opposite is way too difficult for their autistic minds to feel fully comortable around. It's not complicated. Also gay sex is fun.
This is wrong on several levels, first of all being that the high prevalence of depersonalization/derealization symptoms in trans women before transitions means there are likely to be a lot of false positives for ASD that will be largely fixed by cross sex HRT.
The second error is to think that amabs autists can't distinguish between general social exclusion and social dysphoria induced by having specifically gendered social expectations imposed on you that you hate. It's amazing how, post transition, my behaviour is suddenly considered gender conforming and so I suddenly stopped getting a ton negative social feedback for my failure to perform gender correctly.
Holy mother of mental gymnastics