At what month on hrt did you start passing?

to myself post-ffs, to everyone else prolly pre-hrt but i refuse to accept that

I started passing regularly when I looked like this at like 11 months hrt

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wearing a hoodie and jeans, about 3 months. took longer to pass girlmode because the girl clothes made my lack of girl body obvious, that was probably closer to nine months.
This is just based on how people gendered me though, I still don't pass for real at 2 years and change

33 months and I still haven’t been gendered female once but I’ll get there one day

I malefailed constantly before hrt and started getting exclusively gendered female after 3 years. but I still don't pass and need ffs

2 yrs never malefailed once, it is over.

month 90 probably

t. month 45

What is this?

i dont waste my time with makeup so i'll never pass that well

if it helps you pass it isn't a waste of time

I don't pass after 14 years of HRT and 3 rounds of FFS. My lower face is atrocious and I'm going to try to get it fixed. I don't really have enough interactions to gauge passing though but I look like a hon monster in the mirror.

Terfs make fun of trannies tilting their head to look shorter/more feminine/less threatening

it is though, passing doesn't help me in my life... what i need is more money, not strangers wanting to fuck me

you should want to pass for yourself because it would alleviate your gender dysphoria to look like a woman. other people don't enter the equation

actually turns out other people also treat you miles better when youre cute and not seen as tranner

i started pity passing consistently in february 2024 when i first got bangs. i was about 22 months on hrt (pills) at that time. for about two months afterwards i never got outwardly misgendered by strangers, though i am 100% certain i didn't actually pass

The right image is very clearly edited, what is this meant to demonstrate?

Didn't start, I malefailed enough to get hit on and groped as an anorexic teen/preteen. Now in my 20s I don't really malefail besides the occasional first glance kind of thing and it's usually with older people. Kind of awkward having to play it off as if I'm not really flattered while blushing and holding back a grin.

right? what could it possibly prove when the left image and right image have different brows, lips, eyes and hairline?
yeah, that too. but trying to pass should be for your own benefit. anything else is a side-effect

you should want to pass for yourself because it would alleviate your gender dysphoria to look like a woman

i've accepted that is not a possibility for me unless i drastically alter my life to have time for skin, hair, makeup, voice training etc. which i absolutely don't

The right image is very clearly edited

it’s tilted
that’s the only difference, incel

faceblind autist. i untilted it for you

they're different lol
you have genuine mental deficiencies if you cannot see this

pre-hrt
easy if you already looked like an ugly woman

nta but if I can only pass by using a ton of makeup I just feel fake about my appearance

but it looked different before i untilted it too, so it proves nothing

a ton

you need to master subtle, light makeup. even cis women often have to

2 and a half years

im so hungry I could eat a horse!

anon that’s fucked up, horses are beautiful creatures you really shouldn’t eat them.

I pass 95% of the time, which means I don't pass at all.

yeah, but that makeup will transform my masculine features into androgynous or feminine features, or hides them, which just reminds me I am masculine at base. I will learn it either way, but it doesn't change anything about the feeling

there's no such thing as passing

this desu, i felt so ugly and legit was ugly and masc pre ffs but people still pity gendered me female for some reason.

never

That means you're a gigapassoid, I never got gendered female pre-FFS and I still only get gendered female around 95% of the time.

two years and I dont pass so far (I started wat late), but according to one reliable teenage gayboy Im pretty (I guess in an androgynous sort of way)

this is such a fucking cope
im nta but im also pre-ffs and look like a whole ass man and i get pity passed every time i go out
pity passing is real, everyone can tell immediately 100% of the time

Literally every woman I've ever met does this
What a nothing

I'm never going to pass. 1.5+ years, never been called her, I don't even look androgynous I just look like a man aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa strong masculine cleftchin I should end it

I don't think pity-passing is real because I still dress like a man and I don't wear makeup or anything like that. As far as presentation goes, the only things I've changed about myself are getting a bunch of surgeries and having long hair.

THERE’S STILL HOPE

clefthon here i will probably end myself soon

really so devastating that one single facial feature automatically puts you into either ffs or rope territory

Is my jaw detrimental to my passability? Or is this like an attractiveness thing?

oof i legit feel bad for you

looks fine

How over is it? I'm getting jaw/chin surgery next month along with a lower facelift for the jowls, hopefully it does something. Here's my full face for what it's worth.

mine is worse so be happy for that I guess

I guess, but do you think at my point it's a passability or attractiveness? Like I often see one being conflated for the other, so I'm really unsure what it is in reality.

it causes me gender dysphoria for people to see me as a rapebeast.

anyways 2y hrt started at 16 and no pass.

I started 14 years ago when I was 16 and still don't pass.

I started at 23 and at that point hrt is just a placebo basically

Even post ffs revision I don’t pass to myself

My head is permenantly tilted very slightly, even when I'm trying not to tilt it, and my face is also kind of asymmetrical, so them calling this out as a tranny thing makes me somewhat insecure now lol

it's not a tranny thing. tilting your head is a very feminine mannerism and they're just brainrotted

people try to be nice where i live. at least to your face.

nigga, if you saw my face you'd retract that statement. only after ffs did i remotely pass and now i look like a mid masc woman.

I don't think it's a mannerism, because my head is always tilted. When I stop consciously holding it straight, it naturally tilts to the right.
I looked it up and apparently it's associated with brain disorders, and I do have ADHD, so I guess that tracks lol.

It’s an anglefraud thing

anglefrauding is just. using angles in photography. which everyone ever does but when you're a tranny it's........ le bad

should I rope or jump

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just get bullhorn. you're fine