lots of guys look cute as androginous/effeminate twinks. what is it that compels you to want to be a woman?
Why can't you be happy being andro?
when did i say i wanted to be a woman
my bad I thought this board was all trannies
Eh...I'm a hon so I was never androgynous or feminine in the first place
So I guess that's why, at least estrogen makes it a little less worse
Some people just don't have the genetics
to be an androtwink
people here call passoids hons, its hard to guage what you mean by "hon" here I feel like that term is subjective. and wouldn't taking estrogen as a non-passing person make things worse? why not just work with your natural features?
work with fucking what??? i don't want to be a man
you see the problem is that I am incompatible with gay men and I don't want to age on T
i don't want to be a man
why not?
Want has nothing to do with it. My dysphoria compels me to become the woman I was meant to be whether i want to or not.
the woman I was meant to be
There’s barely any difference
then date women and stay away from sugar and seed oils. how is this an issue?
Titties go brrrrr
do i know? i always was like this. wanted breeding hips and tits as i remember myself.
Why would I work with my natural features?
Maxxing features that look the best for other people isn't really the same as maxxing features that make you feel better even if they're ugly (i.e. hrtitties, mosquito bites, or the uncanny face factor)
Hmm.
that’s the opposite of how girls usually are
Why would I work with my natural features?
its a million times easier, despite what people here say, learning to love your body is a good thing. I only say this because I had a friend who detransed and they basically regret their entire life now. I gave the movement the benefit of the doubt but the chuds are right, elon was right. the movement is just big pharma preying on your insecurities.
I date bi men and take hrt and I'm happy with that
Eh, I don't really get the big pharmacy
stuff when most troops I know do DIY
And I really doubt India's estradiol raw suppliers are psyopping people into being trans
I feel for someone who's detransitions
Because they're essentially going through
the same struggle as I a troon, but just into their original gender
But that's the thing...it's the same struggle the only difference is that mine isn't into my birth sex which I suppose makes it less just to people
you'd be surprised, I have a cis girl friend who bitches about wanting bigger tits constantly; that post feels unironically agp though
but taking hrt and getting surgery dosn't actually make you a woman. its like putting a bandaid on a severed artery. The idea that cosmetic surgery can fix underlying mental health issues seems kind of absurd to me.
I got the impression they were talking like since before puberty. It’s funny tho like it seems like girls hate their tits until the rest of their peer group gets them and they can internalize the power tits have in establishing social hierarchies
The idea that cosmetic surgery can fix underlying mental health issues seems kind of absurd to me.
In most cases you'd be right, but in the case of gender dysphoria cross-sex HRT, gender affirming surgeries and social transition are clinically shown to WORK in treating trans people's gender dysphoria.
So it's mental health issue right?
How is therapy and HRT different from antidepressants and therapy for depression? Or CBT and medication for ADHD?
Dysphoria isn't like a physical thing that can be patch up or fixed like a bleeding wound
It's mental struggle like depression or adhd they requires lifelong treatment
I know it doesn't make me a women, but it does get me as close as possible and that's enough to deal with that fact, which is what the treatment is supposed to do
social transition
gonna be hard to pull that one off, especially in todays political climate. Theres literal campaigns being funded towards demonizing trans people. how is social transition going to be a thing?
if a girl knew she'll grow up with male secondary characteristic she'd freak out so bad. maybe not in the moment, but years later.... yeah. have you ever seen a woman who proud of her mustaches? exactly.
i just want to be a woman, nothing sexual about it. and i said that with irony because it doesn't matter what i say, you'll find the way around to push your shit. the thing is you're not trying to understand. you're just a stupid closed-minded faggot.
ohh angry tranny only can call names
delete your tranny folder.
i wish i fucking knew anon. i will never pass no matter what i do. i will always look like an androgynous male no matter how many years on estrogen.
if i were just happy with that i could go date as a man and marry as a man and be happy
instead i am a neurotic freak obsessed with my ribcage proportions
i did not ask to be this way
unintelligible AGP noises
I’ve had a little girl point to my mustache and tell her dad she wants one too.
in that context it makes sense I suppose, but shouldn't you be asking more from the medical side of the movement? isn't the goal to actually transition people from one gender to another functionally? the current meta seems like cope imo. not trying to be a dick, but we have the means to grow organs and skin, we even experimented with liquid breathing at one point. so where is the magic science that changes gender? relying on cosmetics alone dosnt seem ethical.
Always funny watching a chud try to comprehend transition.
Like an ape that has semi consciousness stumbling across alien technology
literally proving my point.
all woman would say something like this about male features, but after they'll shave their body and would cry if you call them trans. women love to be feminine really bad if you don't know it about this.
I'm at work anon so give me a moment because what you said has some very good points
… and then they invented this device they carry around 24/7 that pumps their brains with chemicals and stopped having sex with each other — and the weakest ones began to turn themselves into their own mates! They dressed up like chemically imbalanced pubescent females and drew neotenous caricatures in lieu of offspring LOL it was really funny
I mean yeah thats why im transitioning ftm
I want aliens to come to earth just to mercilessly roast us like nature documentarians do when they see an animal acting goofy
To be honest anon, I know nothing about
any trans movement and I'd imagine the
most represented ones are of poor quality
Any sort of surgery or medical treatment for trans people is just repurposed stuff from non trans people things
So yeah you're right, we should ask more of the medical side
But as you know (Ameritroon here) our Healthcare is already poor in the first place
And the government doesn't recognize that we exist, and I don't mean as women I mean like the mental illness in general
So we can't really push for huge change in the medical field in these conditions
Not to say there isn't a push for better medicine
I got really into DIY and the dedication those people have in making accessible and easy medical treatment for everyone
is really amazing. They go through all sorts of medical studies, trials, and proper formulations
Even experimenting with new stuff like Pio for fat distribution
So they are out there, but the Healthcare industry is too big to take on in these conditions as a small group, I wouldn't know where to start but yeah you're right there needs to be a bigger push on the medical focus
But the truth is we aren't very profitable besides hair removal places desu
I wish we had the magic science for making our bodies more functionally like women's but it isn't really there yet and the surgeries and augment we have are expensive, especially for troons who are exceptionally poor
Anyways that'd my ramblings
I just have to use the copes we have available today
we aren't very profitable besides hair removal places
im not so sue about that, I think proving the ability of effective transgender surgery would yield many different boons in the field of medical science. this technology could theoretically be used to create supersoldiers or genetically engineered spies for foreign operations. the only conclusion I can draw is that the trans movement was a testing ground for this technology, and perhaps it failed and this is why they are backpeddling on it now. results inconclusive, certainty unknown.
99% of the trannies here will admit that they just want to be cute & androgynous and dont actually care about being female when pressed. this board has a conformity culture though that forces them to identify themselves as trans because theyre all a bunch of crabs in a bucket.
how the fuck are we supposed to turn crabs into women?
you dont. you turn them into androgynous twinks
gender dysphoria