British tranners, how are you coping?

British tranners, how are you coping?

every single day i'm vindicated for repping and to be honest i don't much like it but when the alternative is to de-facto be seen as a rapist paedophile who will sexually harass women and children at the slightest provocation (especially given that sort of shit is something that i'm already really paranoid about while male-presenting) it just isn't a battle i have the mental fortitude to fight on top of things like trying to overcome constant executive dysfunction and rationalising reasons to continue living
so uh 7/10 overall at least i've not been stabbed yet

If britoid trans are doing so bad, why don't they come together like those civil rights movements? Your country doesn't look that big, it shouldn't be terribly hard to organize.

Sounds like you’d probably be better off just switching off from the media and news and X, etc.

why don't they come together like those civil rights movements?

there's a few thoughts that come to mind as more obvious points (protest being pretty much illegal, for instance) but one thing i never hear people mention is that the anti-trans movement here paints itself as at least closely related to feminism, whether it's "protecting" pooners from transition whatsoever or "protecting" real wombyn from evil men or whatnot
it means it ends up in this awkward spot where if you go against this narrative strongly enough then you're easily able to be shut down for hate speech, in a not-dissimilar way to how criticism of zionism or the human rights abuses of the idf is deemed antisemitic and pro-terrorist here (albeit to a slightly lesser extent)
like yeah ultimately the core of it is populist rhetoric of finding a group to blame for all problems mixed with the british condition of deriving satisfaction from other people's misery but it wouldn't surprise me if efforts to do any of this would be written off as purely harmful offshoots of "radicalised far-right incel groups" and at that point its a foregone conclusion that the media will loathe you for it and the government will be more than willing to make an example of you so they can seem less impotent to their declining voterbase

There is huge support for trans people in the uk, but then unfortunately right wing populism is growing very fast (they won the most council seats in the local elections a few days ago - 41%). There have been many protests against the Supreme Court ruling and puberty blockers ban but our current government almost wants to copy what trump is doing in America

This image proves otherwise.

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Between the transphobia and the panic about dirty brown people immigration it's not looking good for me.

Been major protests over the past 2 weeks, in every city

Internalised terf garbage. Dont define yourself by people that hate you

If

Worse than Turkey or Belarus, objectively

There is huge support for trans people in the uk

IDK man, I've never seen a poll give more than like 45% support for even HRT, there's always a large chunk of people giving the "unsure/don't know" answer, and it's worse for almost every other question.

Yeah, i can only speak from my experience of living in a horrible part of England, but the average persom person is deeply hateful.

I cant forget how ive been treated, spat on, assaulted. Horrid, evil people, and it isnt one or two, its a lot

Drugs and (not fully related) developing schizophrenia

cor, bloody 'ell mate, i don't leave me 'ouse do i lad so no hassle 'ere.

Plesse stop ketamin

Why don't tranners aim for a new status? Instead of becoming women, become something else that is neither biofemale nor male.

not trans but repping while living in a shitty conservative area. idk what to do. i'm not brave enough to transition like this. i don't care what happens to me, but i'm really worried about my friends here. it's scary

right wing populism is growing very fast (they won the most council seats in the local elections a few days ago - 41%).

Tbh you tend to get people turning away from the standard two parties in council elections, that's where the BNP got their victories back in the day

That’s true, but even just looking at the opinion polls, the left is even more split than the right.

Which is pretty worrying. Also given that all reform need to do is get about 29% of the vote and they can pass through any bill they want with full power

Support is unfortunately declining, but especially among women, trans rights are still mainly supported

Repping 10x as hard as usual rn, scary shit, cider is a friend, been getting drunk most days, at da clerb rn

Been Repping like 10x as hard, just trynna dissociate as much as possible, been getting drunk most days desu

Connection issue made it not post at first fml

I left the country when the only alternative to more Tory rule was Starmer.

Although even i didn't expect it to get this bad this quick.

We do.

1000s of people went out to the streets and the only media coverage about it was when someone spray painted fag rights on a statue of a feminist (which chances are was a false flag attack)

You do not understand the sheer control Murdoch has over British politics.

Yeah sounds fun, only they just hate us no matter what we call ourselves lol.

We cant appease these lunatics

Conspiracist drivel, if protest coverage were being suppressed it'd be all over the papers

They don't have to be fully suppressed. What they do is for every pro trans coverage you have an equivalent anti trans article being posted.

Even though TERF protests struggle to hit more than 20+ people, while pro trans protests hit 2000+

aim for a third status

that would effectively legitimise all kinds of methods through which it can be made more difficult for trans people to even exist

oh you're neither male or female? we can't treat you in our male or female hospital wards

oh you're neither male or female? our voting statistics require one or the other, there might be some clerical issues

oh you're neither male or female? we're not going to accept your identification as valid when asked to present it, please understand

all of these points might seem small in a vacuum but they effectively add up to legislating trans people out of public existence without explicitly creating a tranny ban

i left the country

one of the lucky ones. i keep hearing people suggest the same to others but for any number of reasons it just isn't possible for everyone. at a certain point it becomes rep, leave, or die... thankfully i should be able to keep up the former

even i didn't expect it to get this bad this quick.

seconded honestly, though in hindsight it feels almost unsurprising. still strange to think how different things were only about five years ago, though

if the media were covering something up, then surely the media would report on that

seriously?

yesss let the state control your one life on this earth

Extremely jealous

Relentless propaganda for 10 years has worked, unfortunately

if the media were covering something up, then surely the media would report on that

seriously?

I mean yeah, that stuff would be first page material, you think the vulture media in this country would pass up a profit opportunity like that?

I lived in Edinburgh before I moved out. When they literally sabotaged Scottish sovereignty via a bullshit old rule, Trump style and nobody around me even blinked twice i started making preparations to leave.

I heard Ireland is an option if you have a UK passport, worth looking into. Ireland is still shit for trans folk but since they are in the EU it essentially gives you a pathway to having EU citizenship again.

Im considering Sweden, hopefully i can get married

Yeah its blatant how dictatorial Westminster is, i cant see anything other than mass imprisonment coming

The media didnt report on the mass protests

Right but they would have if it was being suppressed

So the media didnt report on the protests, why not?

Because nobody cares in this hellhole

Idk, i saw a lot of cis people there. People do care

ftm

unaffected

continue to jeer at seething ogrehons

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scotland

im from the north of england myself but the sheer amount of overreach from westminster genuinely maddens me. i do remember a while back people were saying it'd be a good refuge for english tranners but even that's not the case

ireland

i've heard folks suggest there too but i'm really not sure the irish would want a massive influx of english people after everything, plus like you say it's grim for tranners there too (though EU citizenship is a huge plus)

why not?

helps to shift the overton window for your average brit. if the widespread media consensus seems to be that anti-trans rhetoric is the norm and that the vast majority of people appear to be in agreement then the average support for trans people will be minimised simply by shifting the window to the right
you do have to bear in mind as well that the uk's media landscape is uniquely suited to be a hellhole given it's almost entirely owned by three families in cahoots who have a documented history of creating spin for their own ends and a government-funded media producer that is legally bound not to have a stance on anything that could be remotely seen as "controversial", its not like this would be difficult

sabotaged Scottish sovereignty

it's a natdroid

LMAO
It sucked for trans rights but they didn't sabotage shit and the rule isn't old, it literally dates from devolution. Westminster has always been sovereign over Holyrood and the Scottish assembly has never had the right to rule on reserved matters. This was the first time the sneeps and fatties tried to infringe on those reserved matters and Wee Krankie did it deliberately to try to challenge the authority of Westminster, but the courts found in Westminster's favour (predictably).

We were only ever a political tool to Sturgeon, get that through your head you indy melt. She wanted to try to claw power and now we're the ones who have to deal with the fallout.

How many did you see, like 2k? 4k? That's fewer than there are grcs, it feels alot on the ground sure but in the grand scheme of things it rounds off to nobody

What's the best place in england for trannies (culturally)? Brighton?

UK FtM

I really wouldn't call others ogrehons poonbro. I've seen your kind in the UK and like none of you are on Testosterone since its a scheduled aubstance. So yeah of course nothing changed when you weren't even trans in the first place.

How the fuck do you look at Reform leading polls in England and say to yourself

Yeah, I wanna stay in a club with these guys.

Like c'mon what a fucking joke. My only regret regarding Nicola is that she didn't succeed with Indy.

inb4 estrogen ends up a controlled substance too (probably only a matter of time if terfs keep going at this "trans women are unilaterally rapists" angle)

We must protect the almighty uterus

yes brighton there are trans fundraiser gigs like every other week and stuff to do unlike 90% of thr cuntry, i heard people talking about a ftm sauna in a cafe
i wish i lived there, i go from london but its 80 miles...

Their logic is "trans bad"

How are there still people shocked by their hypocrisy

They will, new laws coming in for border control.

I worked at a Royal Mail sorting centre, they had x ray scanners for parcels before they were removed, its ridiculously easy for them to stop DIY imports, if they want to

British people want fascism, it isnt top down. They absolutely will vote Reform and demand the death penalty for undesirables.

In 2022, 48% of people still supported Brexit

i've been saying this shit for years, as someone who's spent an ungodly amount of time agonising over whether to diy or not - being so reliant on sources from outside of the country is *inevitably* going to bite us in the ass when import controls *inevitably* clamp down on it. the writing's been on the wall ever since the guardian did that critique piece on diy a couple of years ago, and i still think the whole "groomer paedophile organisations are importing drugs to illegally mutilate your children" story (regardless of its veracity or accuracy) is an absolute media shitstorm just waiting to be set off - probably within the year, if i had to guess
there was this one study a few years back that i don't quite remember the origin of, but the point that stuck with me is that based on national voting habits from the last 25ish years, brits are almost exactly 50/50 on almost any policy that would make life worse for other people - almost as though the british condition has always been deriving joy or catharsis from the misery of others

Scotland isn't some sort of fucking shining exception to the UK tardnat, the SNP's #2 is a christofascist who'd be a TERF if she wasn't antifeminist. If indy were gained the SNP would instantly crumble and it'd be like the Simpsons clip where Russia turns back into the USSR, the majority of their voters are anti-trans and pro-Brexit.

But even if I wanted indy I'd still hate Sturgeon for the retarded and transphobic way she tried to go about it, wasting tax money on legal challenges that were doomed to fail.

British people want the government to ban sounds in public. Of course they want facsism.
God that sounds wonderful. I'm eating shit in London too.

i still think the whole "groomer paedophile organisations are importing drugs to illegally mutilate your children" story (regardless of its veracity or accuracy) is an absolute media shitstorm just waiting to be set off

Yepppp

TRANSGENDER GROOMING GANGS ILLEGALLY IMPORTING UNTESTED BRAZILIAN SEX DRUGS FOR MINORS IN DEFIANCE OF ESTABLISHED MEDICAL ADVICE

They won't even have to try very hard desu, the whole thing's already set up and the average person here is rigidly opposed to defying muh NHS, it'll go over without a hitch and kill a bit more support/sympathy for us.

We're fucked

Yepppp

DIY

Oh for fucks sake. Im listening to Nigel Farage, we're gonna be thrown in prison, i need to leave asap, we all do

by not going outside for 5 days at a time

basically a necessity

Consider the following:
Labour will need to see off the challenge from Reform over the next four-ish years – *without* spending any more money or raising taxes because that will just make people madder over cost of living. But what's cheap or no-cost, maybe even cost-saving? Making things illegal and cutting back on preexisting entitlements!
It's going to be
1) Trannies
2) Immigrants

Labour already said they're gonna make life shit for immigrants.

And ofcourse ruthlessly enfocing EqHRC guidance will get headlines. And guess what, it wont do a fucking thing, why vote diet Fascism when they can have full fat fascism. I honestly cant see us not being thrown in prison.

Its why they changed the law on prisons and the police put out a new policy within 12 hours. Fuck i need to leave fuck fuck, i just got a washing machine too

coupled with the fact that starmer's labour is already quite happy to shift to the right in a frankly bizarre attempt to appeal to reform/tory voters and this feels like more and more of a foregone conclusion by the day
doesn't help that the same points on trannies & immigrants are major policy/manifesto points for reform/tories too, so it's not really something labour can dial down on lest they close another door to their rapidly dwindling potential voterbase
funnily enough i'm surprised i haven't heard anything much on the online safety act in this particular context because i'm almost certain that'll be used to clamp down on trans stuff on the web, too - ie, trans people existing is inherently sexual, to see their posts please provide photo id

They debated lgbt stuff in parliament, theyll shut nsfw forums in July 2025, including trans subreddits

Fuck i need to leave fuck fuck, i just got a washing machine too

kek look on the bright side, if your first thought is for your washing machine then maybe leaving the country behind isn't a... huuuge pain lmao
p sure they have those in Ireland too

im getting married to my spanish bf and then leaving in a year or so hopefully to never come back
i would rather have chosen this more on my own terms but i'm not a strong person and this is really the only way i can keep moving forward
even if the uk gets better someday and somehow, i think i'm just sick of it

Ive never had a bath or a washing machine before. Nor a cooker.

I hate England

And guess what, it wont do a fucking thing, why vote diet Fascism when they can have full fat fascism

Of course, I'm not saying it'll work. I'm just saying they're going to do it.

this feels like more and more of a foregone conclusion

it's not really something labour can dial down on lest they close another door to their rapidly dwindling potential voterbase

This is almost the worst part, like even to us, what the fuck are they supposed to do, just roll over and let Reform and the Tories take turns fucking them up the ass? Throw away any chance at economic reform as well? It all feels so predetermined, it's too late, far too late, we should have had better optics a decade ago, now it's already over and we're just watching our hopes collapse, the hospice patient of politics.

forcing trans people to occupy an intermediary social space between male/female was ruled unnaceptable by the european court of human rights already because it would suck

trans women are already regularly removed from gendered hospital wards and treated in side rooms though, that one's already happening and already led to at least one heart attack going unnoticed by hospital staff a year or two ago

theyll shut nsfw forums in July 2025, including trans subreddits

including trans subreddits

damn i'd only heard about this in periphery but i always assumed it was more that people were just concerned it was a possibility rather than it being a genuinely planned change
ig this means we'll probably not be able to access /tttt/ either lol

It all feels so predetermined, it's too late, far too late, we should have had better optics a decade ago, now it's already over

it's weird, i always hear so much from here about optics and whatnot and yet the really crushing thing is that for the most part, none of that was ever really within most of our control - and now all of us have to suffer for the sake of... the labour government getting reelected???
it's crazy to think back to like 10 years ago and realise that was probably the best time to troon here like. damn.

european court of human rights

as if starmer's labour wouldn't just ignore that too lmao
the joys of brexit

trans women are already regularly removed from gendered hospital wards and treated in side rooms though

unequivocally true even before the recent guidance came out - i remember hearing stuff late last year about trans patients being treated in repurposed storage closets because it was literally impossible based on internal guidance to treat them anywhere else, and with that now having a legal basis it's only likely to get worse