Have you ever been abused by an afab (emotionally, physically, or sexually)...

Have you ever been abused by an afab (emotionally, physically, or sexually)? Do you think it was in any way connected to you being queer?

Did you tell anyone that the AFAB had abused you? Were they punished?

have you

yes

do you think

no

did you tell

yes

were they

no

yes

no

yes

no

she just lied to everyone and said I abused her first. I didn't have the heart to drag my abuse story out in front of our entire friend group and get scrutinized so I just walked away from it.

Yes

No

Yes

No

Just like she lied to everyone and also made much more of an effort to drag me through the mud and spread rumours about me. And it worked. I don't think she abused me for being a tranny directly, but me being a tranny made it probably a lot easier for her to spread rumours about me

Do you feel now that afabs are allowed to get away with behavior amabs would be punished for?

have you

Yes

do you think

No, I already identified as queer by the time it happened and I had just started transitioning

did you tell

No but it was an open secret (at best, everyone knew)

were they

No lmao, the story became me being the abuser even though everyone saw what actually happened

Females* males*

No, I just know now that women tend to be more coercive and attack people indirectly/socially and men tend to be more direct in the way they express aggression. In other words, men will beat you up, women will rile up the entire village against you

You received two stories of abuse from cis women and concluded that trans men would be allowed to get away with more abuse other people.

what?
I'm assuming this is amabs getting abused by afabs...

Honestly OP you should be shot for even using afab and amab terminology. You could have just said "women and theyfabs (women)" if that's what you meant

no cuz then people will be unclear, I am talking about amabs who got abused by afabs, its very specific.

Have you been abused by an afab emotionally, physically by my repper mom

Do you think it was in any way connected to you being queer?

i got the repper gene and a femdom fetish but

did you tell anyone

eh

were they punished

the older i got the more i realized that it's hard to blame her when the circumstances and her upbringing wasn't also the best. we have actually a good relationship now

Okay say cis women then

Yes, I told her mom, she told me I should be a man and understand her.

Yep, you're grouping in trans men with women as both AFABs who abuse AMABs (cis men and trans women), and that's what I'm calling you out on. You're using trans women or cis men getting abused by cis women to criticize trans men, too, which is dumb.

wow you sound totally stockholm syndrome'd

i'm the afab i'm talking about was a trans guy

trans men exploit female privilege as much as other afabs do so I think that's fitting, it's not like trans men are arrested for crimes at the same rate amabs are

have you

Yes, I've been sexually abused by a cis 23y old when I was a teenager

do you thing

Really, I was still in the closet at the time.

did you tell

I told my irl friends abt what happen, and many of then didn't believed fr. On the long run, I lost almost all of them, because "lol, you just fucked the half-sister of your best friend and tried not look like the asshole".
I also talked about it with my ex, because I tried suicide and no one was understanding why, including him.

were they

No, people just act like I fucked her on free-will and think it's okay if she hits on minors all the time because she's a women.

i get where you come from but no

Any trannies who have been abused by theyfabs want to cuddle?

t.ranny

*Not really.

fucking typo.

You are like the MRA equivalent of those radfems who try to turn trans men against trans women on account of them being AFAB.

Bro just say women holy shit

the behavior of afabs is atrocious

no, cuz then trannies would talk about being abused by other trannies, and that's not what I'm talking about

accidently opened this board and its about something i was just thinking about lately.

i feel slightly attracted to the same sex, i had offers from them, but i felt a natural inclinination to not pursue. it felt like insufficient and fake. It feels like not me. however i am stuck not being able to pursue romantic and trustworthy relationships with the other sex and not able to adapt same sex intimate relationships.

yes. i have been abused, heavily.

yes, i very much think, my tendency to same sex attraction is linked to that. as a child i had troubles understanding wether i was a boy or a girl, and because my abuse contained pleasing same sex, and carrying the adults "order" i also highly identified with the other sex. Also emotionally abused as a spouse substitute, and erotically abused and grooming.

And yes, i get angry at the heavy psyop going on these days thinking everyone is same sex oriented. there are only a few "naturally" like this and i strongly believe, abuse is much more frequent and the cause for many that feel like this. Yet immediately we get branded as discriminating and phobic.
i wish i could talk openly with therapist about my conflicting experiences and feelings, yet they are so easy to please and jump on the waggon of "free love"

Fuck that shit.

Trannies don't abuse other trannies. We all love each other very much.

That's their preferred m.o., abuse until one reacts and act from there, it was sobering seeing her doing all of that to spread all her shit on me, I managed to turn the whole thing into something beneficial for me as she couldn't stop abusing me and ended up with a huge debt she can't refuse to pay

yes to all, by men and women.
abuse isnt taken seriously when its done to a boy.

thats what most my therapy things is about

Have you

No but afabs enabled my amab abusers.

Do you think

Yeah because I'm affected by transmisogyny

Did you tell

The only people who sympathize with my disdain for the people who enabled my abusers is other transfems. I do have positive interactions with cis men and women.

Were they punished

No but I was punished for saying the guy who stole my glasses caused my rape by a different guy that day to happen

you think afabs egged the amabs on?

I was in a 13 year emotionally abusive woman because I didn't think I could do any better and she was nice to me even while she destroyed my life.
Then she cheated on me and kicked me out onto the streets.
I've recovered from it all by now but I'm admittedly a bit afraid of women because of her, even if ultimately that's what I'm attracted to.

I didn't tell anyone for years after the fact because I didn't wanna be seen as weak.

t. Ftm

i think if an amab person participated in abuse the way my ex had, they wouldve gotten away with it too. being deceptive and coercive makes you good at hurting people and getting away with it.

really though the issue is that afabs rarely face consequences for being emotionally volatile and lashing out. they grow up thinking they deserve to just act on every impulse they feel and then end up becoming completely unable to resist treating their partners like shit everytime they get frustrated.

So afabs are emotionally privileged?

yes

only nominally

yes

no

my story is just stock alcoholic mom taking out her anger on her kids 101 tbhon

i dont know what that means. i think people dont take them seriously so they dont get taught to be serious people in many cases. ive had to teach several of my afab partners how to deal with their emotions and its really tiresome.

is this image saying trans people don't have hearts

afabs get to fully experience their own feelings without backlash, in a way amabs don't

Can we leave behind the agab terminology? Its completely useless and just a woke way of misgendering people. trans women and cis men are completely different despite both being "amabs"

Have you ever been abused by an afab (emotionally, physically, or sexually)?

yes, my first gf was emotionally abusive and there was a dynamic of sexual abuse (only 'positive' attention she really paid me was wanting to have sex whenever she got done screaming at me to cool down which i went along with bc i just wanted her to stop screaming at me) and there was one instance of physical abuse (hit me while screaming at me then coerced and threatened me into sex)

Do you think it was in any way connected to you being queer?

i think she would've been abusive no matter what but i was pre trans in the relationship but she knew I was bi and i had told her some gender questioning thoughts and how i preferred a more submissive/bottom role in sex, this led to her being suspicious of anyone, man or woman, I was friendly with, constant accusations of me cheating or not being attracted to her, and lots of demands and coercion for me to have sex with her in really rough and dominate ways which she knew I did not enjoy, so i think it was probably worse bc of my being queer

Did you tell anyone that the AFAB had abused you?

not while we were together. I didn't really understand that what i went through was abuse until years after the relationship was over since i was pre trans and so ofc men cannot be abused by women ever as we all know. i blamed myself for what happened and being 'whipped.'

Were they punished?

no bc like I said I never really talked about it with anyone until they were well out of my life. some people I told some stuff about what was going on right after the relationship and they would tell me it sounded like abuse which I had a hard time believing, but they didn't have any sort of influence or ability to 'punish' her in any meaningful way.

I'm not asking if people have been abused by trans women though, and that's all people would talk about if I framed it as just women.

to be clear i think this is bad. people shouldnt just say whatever the fuck they feel with zero thought put into it. people get frustrated all the time, a well socialized adult can take their feelings in stride, "well i yelled at you because i was frustrated" is such a ridiculously childish excuse but i hear it so much.

My experience has been that afabs just act however they want to with zero restraint at any time. And nobody cares when they harass/abuse you if you are amab.

Then you could specify cis women.

trans women and cis men are completely different despite both being "amabs"

hahahaha....

I've noticed this pattern in general discourse. Bigot makes several bullshit claims, well-meaning but ignorant non-bigots don't know how to respond, so they just pick one or two point pedantically and leave the rest of the bullshit unaddressed, thereby implicitly ceding the argument to the bullshitters and to onlookers.
This happens with lots of minorities, but it's happening here with the OP's bullshit claims simply being countered by "Well, just specify trans women!" "Please stop with the AGAB terminology!"

trans women!

Meant to say "cis women."
Anyway, the claims here are the "AFABS" are uniquely privileged, including trans men (wrong), and that they're uniquely horrible and lucky compared to "AMABs" (cis men and trans women, also wrong). The well-meaning non-bigots here are the probably trans women saying to stop specifying AGAB terminology, because they don't know how to counter these bullshit claims being spun up from nothing, thereby letting OP's points go unchallenged.

trans men retain female privilege - nobody is beating them up for being fags as if they were cis men