What is the biggest trvke related to passing?

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What is the biggest trvke related to passing?

everyone passes in the dark

For this board, it's probably that passing to cis people is massively easier than passing to trans people, and that far more of you can pass to cis normies than any of you think.

Also that if you have even a tiny shred of an ability to read body language and social cues, the difference between actually passing and people humoring you is plainly obvious. As a first approximation, if you don't provoke uncanny valley effect (where people give you a second glance because you momentarily startle their lizard brains subconsciously) then you pass.

Another might be that every approach to voice training sucks, but it doesn't really matter because if you keep at it long enough it'll eventually work regardless.

not when they glow

if you didn't pass pre hrt with long hair, clean shaven face and makeup you never will

voice training sucks, but it doesn't really matter because if you keep at it long enough it'll eventually work regardless.

trvke

if you didn't pass pre hrt with long hair, clean shaven face and makeup you never will

Retarded take and not true in the slightest

Wearing a bra regularly helps shape your boobs

massive trvke, gigahons itt will sneed but its TRUTH.

Retarded take and not true in the slightest

nta but this is 100% true. Trans timelines filtering reality with AI filters are cognitohazards.

This is wrong on several levels at once. HRT can affect facial fat distribution pretty noticeably, and beard shadow can be super difficult to effectively conceal and will get you clocked regardless of the passability of your facial structure.

True, unless it's borderline and you can get it fixed with surgery.

HRT can affect facial fat distribution pretty noticeably

no
how much fat you got on your face anyways nigga…

> HRT can affect facial fat distribution pretty noticeably

no

NTA but are you like literally retarded? Like actually? That's pretty much the one thing HRT is praised for doing is moving fat around.

… not in your face… bruh … some of u guys really just think this stuff I magic potions

The board is filled with autistic people. Passing in a few cherry picked pictures posted on a desperate online forum means nothing. Passing means you pass as the opposite sex in your daily life to the majority of people you come in contact with. It means your voice passes as female. It means your height passes as female. Out of the people who post on this website and in passgen, 1% pass in real life.

That's literally what it does? Bruh go back to gaygen you have no idea how any of this works.

not in your face lmfao. I googled it just to make sure I wasn’t mistaken. bro imagine taking medication and not knowing what it’s supposed to do to you…

hrt doesn't do enough to make you look like a woman if you didn't have a feminine face before also beard shadow can be hidden with concealer

Nigger go google it again and search for a school nearby too and enroll. that's LITERALLY what it does jfc

daily affirmations work but only if you're tru fembrained

You don't know what you're talking about.

I transitioned in my late 30s and have no trouble passing in daily life. I haven't been misgendered by a stranger in 2.5+ years, I don't get second glances, I've had people I've known for months be genuinely shocked when I tell them I'm trans.

And if I were to my face to this board, I'm sure I would be told I was a hon. I routinely see trans women on this board posting pics of themselves who, as long as they voice trained, I think would have no problem passing, but they are so brainwormed that they imagine "passing" means withstanding the hyper scrutiny they impose on themselves and each other.

Biggest trvke in this shitty site

Legitimate bait.

The criteria is not whether YOU think you pass, it's whether you passed to other people. I've known a lot of delusional trans women who refuse to acknowledge that they don't pass to most people.

Anon is getting the most horrendous pity she/hers and doesn't even know it. This post is so depressing.

I've known a lot of delusional trans women

No you don't, but you can purport it so it looks like your opinion is more grounded than simply 'I think most don't pass'

I know for a FACT that I pass

No I won't post my picture, because people here tell me they don't pass

No you don't, let me tell you what your life experience is

Moving on

Immediately post a hon picture

Hmmm anon I don't think you're debating in good faith.......

And I don't think most of you post pictures in good faith, I think you post pictures with the intention of receiving positive feedback, whether those pictures are a fair representation of what you look like or not.

Anon Babble trannies did not invent the idea that passing is not a realistic goal for most, you find the exact idea in old school transsexual websites from the 90s/2000s and it's one reason why the community used to be more low-key. has a point there are multiple concurrent psyops that are giving people unrealistic expectations.

Anyone that post pictures online is looking for positive reactions to what they posted so I'm not even sure what your point is. Also I'm not even the anon who typed that OG post, I don't post my pictures here because the opinions of random faceless mean nothing whether good/bad. It's easy to pass judgement online when you're not also up for judgment I don't know why people subject themselves to that torture.

Again, to anyone with any ability to read body language and social cues it's plainly obviously whether you are giving people that lizard brain uncanny valley, second glance effect and it's utterly obvious when people are humoring you vs. actually passing. When people are just humoring you they trip over their words and stumble before using a pronoun to refer to you because they have to consciously remind themselves not to use the one they want to use instinctively, and they slip up sooner or later.

I won't post a face picture because I'm not brainwormed enough to post my face on Anon Babble. My point in mentioning that I think I'd get called a hon here is that trans people clock each other exponentially easier than cis people clock trans people, and that people on this board in particular are brainwormed a lot more than the average for trans women. A real trvke in the context of this board is going against the brainwormed grain.

oh i pass perfectly

how do i know?

well i can basically read everyone's minds

You can also argue that in the reverse, using an unknown factor to try and prove your point doesn't work.

Nice whitepill. Maybe some of the people who gender me correctly are not just pitypassing me

It's better to be a thriving hon with rizz than it is to be a depressed, lonely passoid. Ofc thriving passoid with rizz and a great life is ideal, but we're in the real world. Health, longevity, having good relationships, having your basic needs met, working towards your personal goals (not just your looks)- these are the things you should be focused on. That, and keeping yourself and your community alive in countries where we're being targeted.

I'd probably also be happier with Downs but I'm not going to try to will myself into that either

it's 100000% easier to pass in a pic than in real life

My only point here still stands: passing means you pass to a majority of people in real life. It means your voice passes as female, and your height passes as female. If you all want to have a platform where you encourage each other that's fine, but it's not indicative of whether anyone actually passes as the opposite sex.

You don't need to read people's minds to observe how they react to you and how they interact with you. You just need to not be so preoccupied with your own brainworms that you can't see past your own nose and just assume people are reacting to you the way you're brainworms say they are.

Seriously. It's not that hard to notice people doing (or not doing) double takes when they see you.

everybody who clocks me does a double take

Here, a visual guide to when someone may suspect you are not cis

There is no definitive answer to whether you pass or not, I've been height mogged by cis women, shoulder mogged as well, I've seen cis boys with a better waist hip ratio than me. The best you can do is go outside and read reactions to your existence. Humans are incredibly good at reading patterns sooner or later with enough experience you'll gather the general consensus on yourself. But posting yourself online is really just a humiliation ritual and not worth the affirmation you believe you'll get.

Dude struggles to understand body language and thinks the rest of us are like him. We are laughing at you, not with you anon.

And besides, you can't read everyone's mind. Most human beings will not verbalize their struggle to tell if you're a man or a woman or not. They keep it to themselves. And everyone is familiar with transgender women, they're even educating kids in kindergarten now about transgender women. So very few people are going to tell you to your face that they think you're the opposite sex of the one you're trying to present.

I'm not that nona but Im dropping the good faith debating to call you literally retarded you think the general pop is nice towards trans people? Most humans will absolutely verbalize their struggle/more often hate with gender ambiguity or those they believe don't fit within their societal acceptance levels.

Most humans will absolutely verbalize their struggle/more often hate with gender ambiguity or those they believe don't fit within their societal acceptance levels

What? You walk down the street and MOST people you pass straight-up yell at you?

Second glances are involuntary and obviously aren't super dramatic and exaggerated but they are easy to spot if you're paying attention.

There was a point in my transition where people suddenly stopped tripping over pronouns for me, strangers suddenly stopped misgendering me, I stopped getting those second glances. It was a pretty noticeable change. Then again, I'm pretty sensitive to body language and social cues generally, so maybe it was more obvious to me than most people.

If you've ever heard cis "allies" try not to misgender a non-binary person you'll know exactly what I'm talking about with it being obvious when you are being humored.

Or the classic cis "ally" doing pic related unprompted.

It doesn't take a genius to notice stuff like this.

Nona I was making fun of the webm poster not you, I agree with you.

I was just trying to (You) all the posts in the conversation, I didn't mean to imply I thought you were disagreeing with me.

Before I passed yes, very much the case.