Can i detrans and be seen as a real man?

this is very based, tips?

can someone pls explain how this works?
is it really as easy as cutting my hair short and switching to a gender neutral name, will people treat me as a normal if or will they still sense the tranny on me?

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Find a realistic attractive aesthetic to copy and go for it. People get horny for femme guys and tall thin masc women. Make it work.

A recipe for disrespect and honmaxxing.

i don't care about making people horny, if anything i'm trying to avoid being a sex object. i want to distance myself from transness and the backlash coming against it. i just want to be seen as cis, male or female

wdym

you'll probably be able to blend in well enough for your day to day life but you'll have to worry alot about hiding your boobs and you won't be able to participate in a lot of things because of them. women will see you as a man and respect you as one but men probably won't see you as one, the more progressive ones will take you seriously but you wont be one of them... it's a bit of a lonely existence
t. 4 year hrt in the limbo of gender moder

i meant can i do a full medical transition but pass as a man and not have people see me as a weird soft faggot?

It could work if you have a big build

Because you're intentionally trying to look like and act like a freak. People would not mind as much if you looked and acted like your target sex.

oof this is a little bleak. is hiding boobs really that big of a daily stressor? i'm pretty flat, i feel like they wouldn't get noticed aside from like swimming
tall and broad shouldered so maybe. but hips match shoulders and i have that lanky waif thing going on so idk.
i could bulk up but past a point altering my actual body for this would induce dysphoria
not going for freak i'm trying to look and act like a man while continuing to transition to female, the goal is for no one to notice anything but a pretty male

I really don't believe any of these threads lol, they sound like complete fabricated falseflag bullshit
If its real, though, my condolences for your retardation

Usually Its just to match the color palette, or the color pallet of a particular scene. Also anime hair, always comes in unnatural colors too. Usually to differentiate the characters.

I really don't believe any of these threads lol, they sound like complete fabricated falseflag bullshit

what makes you say that

even Japanese people acknowledge they all look alike

Brutal

Because its unlikely to be real.
Detransition exists and that is real, but the % is extremely low, and inside that extremely low percentage, most, if not almost all of them, are FtM.
However threads like yours (detransitioning mtf) pop up every now and then in this board, I simply don't believe you, sorry.

that wasn't me but i'm op and this thread is real
i am concerned about rising transphobia in my area and trying to get ahead of it and mask in whatever way best serves my life.
plus i don't really care about how i'm perceived socially as long as it's positive, i was just in this for the sex change part not for gender validation or whatever

I will humor you.

If you are only really doing this for safety reasons, then it should be a temporary thing, definitely not a "this didnt work out for me" thing.
It's also clearly not a passing problem, because you even said you were "semi stealth".

You've been "fully out since 2017", ended up passing and living as a woman for almost 8 years, and now you are saying you want to cut your hair and use a male name and become a "pretty man" because you are "concerned about rising transphobia in my area"?

Are you fucking stupid? You are either the most retarded trender on earth or this thread is bullshit, there's really no winning here.

is hiding boobs really that big of a daily stressor? i'm pretty flat, i feel like they wouldn't get noticed aside from like swimming

it isn't really but there's a lot of stuff that just comes up that you don't really think about, at least depending on the stage of life you're in... I couldn't go on some trips with my uni because the housing would've had group showers and I probably would've been placed in a men's room which would've been very awkward. you're constantly paranoid about your binder being visible... any form of contact sport is difficult also because people expect you to be as hardy as any other guy when really you aren't... and there will be situations where explaining why you can't spontaneously go swimming with your friends will be very awkward.... the other day sone guy at my uni ran straight into me and definitely noticed them it was incredibly awkward and we both just pretended it didn't happen... im sure there's more that i can't think about from the top of my head but that's the stuff of the past few months

If you are only really doing this for safety reasons, then it should be a temporary thing, definitely not a "this didnt work out for me" thing

i am of the opinion that in the coming years things are going to get very difficult specifically for visibly trans people here and in a lot of places. but passoids are immune to it unless full on fascist police state takeover with camping dlc happens, which is, despite it all, still not super likely.
i'm a semipassing twinkhon. i am woman enough to be treated as a woman and pass in brief interactions, but anyone who spends enough time around me will notice (or have a suspicion about it). aka i am not passing enough to be safe from things like rising violence or hiring discrimination
it could in theory be temporary, but that's dependent on my ffs results and the political situation.

You've been "fully out since 2017", ended up passing and living as a woman for almost 8 years, and now you are saying you want to cut your hair and use a male name and become a "pretty man" because you are "concerned about rising transphobia in my area"?

yes, pretty much. i live in the confederacy

You are either the most retarded trender on earth or this thread is bullshit

what would bring you to this conclusion
if i were a trender i'd just quit the larp and take off the costume. i'm on hrt and will be continuing hrt. i'm getting ffs. i have incurable female brain.
but that's not really relevant to what steps i may need to take for my social welfare yk. i'm talking about hiding things not stopping medical transition

not to be rude but this is a bit relieving as it mostly seems to relate to things that come of being in in-person college and playing sports with people, neither of which are my thing lol
i hang out with the nerds

yeah well they're very specific to my life but what I'm trying to point out is that there's always stuff coming up you can't account for

hmm that's fair. i guess it would probably come up in ways i'm not even thinking of cause i've never tried to hide them. although with baggy clothes i could probably get away with not even binding in the cold parts of the year

yeah the winter months are pretty chill lol

Lol it's a bit comforting to see that other people have the same idea as me. I made another thread before I saw this one.

How lonely? As bad as before transition? I'm already feeling lonely. I don't feel accepted. Might be that I'm just autistic, but it's easier to have a job as an autistic man.

sadly there's probably a lot of people thinking this way right now. times have gotten dire. the twinkhon detroonening may be nigh

totally op, just get a haircut it's ez

Massive misconceptionnin the role that free quill plays in being trans is what keeps people in mmg and repgen.

well if hrt made me look like that (and if my face was less clocky) i would probably not have made this thread lol
but my boobs are more uh, discreet. i'm not exactly pleased about that either but for this at least they won't be hard to hide
my hips will be pretty hard to hide though

you would hate plays

Being a man is the ultimate loneliness. If loneliness is something you worry about then don't do it. You're in for a world of pain, especially when the world sees you as an actual man. Women have a sort of sisterhood as far as I can tell, or at least they pretend to. Men see other men as competition. Women see men as potential predators. Everyone is on guard around you. Any woman who is ever attracted to you (assuming you would be attractive to a woman as a man, which for most men isn't the case) then she won't say anything or give you any sign. The world will ignore your problems and refuse to talk about you in any capacity. It'll be like dying and waking up as a ghost that nobody can see.

t. average looking cisman

but the % is extremely low

there is no strong evidence for that, considering the shifting treatment groups. mtfs from 20 years ago arent the same as mtfs transitioning during lockdown or 2016 or whatever. you cant just rely on the same outdated paper forever.

lol

It's true. Everyone brings up that phony '3%' detransition rate, when youth transition has become far more common than it used to be. A lot of gay men are realising that transitioning is the wrong path to treating dysphoria. You'll see more evidence in the coming years.

just go back to your containment board faggotron

This is Anon Babble. This is my containment board.

consider killing yourself

u meant Anon Babble

There's a board for pickme homosexuals who hate themselves, it's 2 blocks down.

For you. You've just thrown your hands up in resignation and believe the fates have bestowed a terrible privilege, unlike any other. Social support is what you make it.
Why? I'm making inroads towards accepting my body, like never before. I'm learning to be okay with my natural form and sexual configuration.
I never use Anon Babble. I'm a gay Jew. Always such malevolent energy there.
I'm not a pick-me. I support gay men and trans women. I just want trans women to know that there's another way. Would you prefer a trans woman in hopeless distress, commits an hero, if transition never was right for them? That's not a serious option. There's always a way.

Anon I'm sorry to burst your bubble but transitioning is not the magic cure to a loneliness problem. Did you forget that I lived life the same as you for a period of time?

The sisterhood is not that strong, and you're only tenuously a part of it as a trans woman. There's a bit of a sisterhood among trans women, but there's a lot of infighting.

Also transitioning for me brought constant sexual propositions, but I find it incredibly hard to date. There were more women interested in long term partnerships with me when I was presenting as a guy, even when I was kind of a faggy guy, because men are just seen as more inherently valuable.

I used to think a little more (not much) like you, but I came to realize post transition that this world really, really, really centers and is revolves around men. It doesn't feel like that when you'e a closeted trans girl because you want to be a woman and with women socially, but if you're a guys guy who's halfway decent looking and not a complete pig... life is good.

I miss hireability anon. I miss respect. I miss not constantly being harassed, and I miss people listening to me. I miss being held to a lower standard in a relationship. If you get them into a relationship they put up with a lot, but if you're a tranny you're basically a cheap vibrator for them, and a cheap fleshlight to most men.

If you have ambitions then it's a bit of a nightmare. I was really dysphoric though and I couldn't repress any longer. I think though that, if I get to keep my hormones, and find some bi girl I could have a private femme life? It's probably just escapism because I'm scared, but being trans is not particularly easy.

I'm only entertaining this because I would know what I'm getting into this time, could plan, and keep my hormones.

it doesn't matter anyway. these aren't detrans posts. I can't give up my hormones and I'd rather not do this, but I feel boxed into a corner by the world around me.

goes directly to concern trolling

damn you are doing the textbook baby's first shitposting, its so cringe lol
go do your homework kid

Believe what you want to believe. I've been immersed in trans spaces since I was 15-16. Immersed in hatred for my body for much longer. I'm learning to appreciate manhood. And I'm tired of dysphoric repulsion. It became a nest of neurosis, without end. I'm trying to reclaim my agency.

I would try to go for FFS first to see if it fixes your problem, but manmoding is definitely an option
Tricking normies that you don't care about is fine, but make sure to let your family and friends (depending on how close you are) in on what you're actually doing. If they think that you're actually detrooning they might get sucked into the propaganda and blame themselves for ever accepting you in the first place, which along with being dishonest would make it way harder for you when it's eventually safe enough to go back

i didnt ask

Of course not. You clearly don't care. Eyes wide shut.

If they think that you're actually detrooning they might get sucked into the propaganda and blame themselves for ever accepting you

This, but she should just not do such a dumb thing in the first place.

idk but am gonna put some blue hair dye in my hair just cause. it is not like bright blue. it is like black/blue . and it'll just look dope and it smells kind of good.
bbl

It might not be a dumb thing depending on her situation. Hair grows back and names can be changed as many times as you want. As long as she doesn't actually detroon there wouldn't be any permanent physical damage, though it might be rough mentally.

go for ffs first

this was my plan, but years of being too poor for it have broken me down a little and i've begun to wonder if pretty privilege as a hot estroman will provide a stabler life and get me to ffs faster anyway. being a hon, even a pretty twinkhon, is socially disabling in a way
the election was a bit of a final straw to push me to this point, it's feeling dangerous and i also want to get more involved in politics (where i will have more impact as a "cis man")

make sure to let your family and friends (depending on how close you are) in on what you're actually doing

oh dw that's first on my mind i worked hard for understanding with family especially and don't wanna lose that. my parents were the first people i voiced this thought to

such a dumb thing

is it dumb though? i'm thinking about my safety and my ability to get jobs and my ability to be politically useful to the world
if i was a passoid it would be different but i'm not