I fucking hate estrogen. I guided my twink friend to it because I know it is what is best for him, but goddammit I hate watching its insidious influence slowly poison his mind. I wish twinkdeath wasn't real so he didn't have to do this to himself. I'm going to miss him when he is gone.
I fucking hate estrogen. I guided my twink friend to it because I know it is what is best for him...
boyremove him and enjoy your new girlfriend
No, I fucking hate women. He started literally crying over some stupid shit the other day and I wanted to kill myself having to put up with it. Never happened before the hormones.
You still have a chance to get him off that shit. Either that or just say your fair wells and leave him to his new path.
Like if he’s not the same person you met, then continuing to be his friend doesn’t make sense to me :/
You still have a chance to get him off that shit
He wasn't going to make it through twinkdeath, shit would have destroyed him and I'd rather him be an estrogenated retard than a depressed possibly dead one. I'll be sticking by him until I can't stand it anymore.
that's even more fucked up. he's gonna go insane from e and you'll end up leaving him when he needs you the most. it's not a good solution
Why didn't you just put him out of his misery?
if you can't be attracted to 25+ men and obsess over twink death you are most likely a pedo
I'm trying to help him build a good support group first so I can gradually disappear out of his life instead.
does e actually mentally impair you or something? or just make you more emotional?
it can make you a bit more emotional
or a lot
if im pre-hrt and alr more sensitive to my emotions than most men, and mentally ill, will it have like a huge effect on me or is there no real way to know b4 u actually take e?
that probably means you're already at least acclimated to a high emotional range, it's really impossible to say
This is beautiful. Good for you honestly
I hear it changes your brain chemistry and DNA
No reports of damaging have even been reported but you have to think about the kind of toll a brain is experiencing by shifting hormones so suddenly
right, imagine that but when you're young and not prepared for it and all the changes are going in the direction you don't want and you can't do anything to stop it aka natal puberty for someone with untreated gender dysphoria - conversely you'll have to offer some kind of qualifier to the vaguely threatening "toll" you're talking about relative to the complete lack of indication or evidence for it or what its nature could possibly be
i think the person ur replying to is talking abt the biological impacts on the brain (ie. stressing the actual neurons and shit), not the impacts on the actual person themselves
You niggas are really weird about aging
I am talking about both, and assume they are as well
Right so you are mentally ill tranny I can tell. Srry for that and second, gender dysphoria isn’t real and can not be scientifically proven from reputable PHD qualified doctors or sources.
Exactly! Psychologically speaking, anyone could want to be a woman as much as they want, but neurologically speaking… unless you are intersex with some sensible xxy syndrome, then it’s just a societal influence or trauma related issue that manifested into dissociation with one’s “biological sex”.
They are being rewarded by other mentally ill people by seeking comfort as “transitioning” instead of seeking a therapist ): and so the mass reinforcement of validation in this decision, creates a reality in the persons mind that these feelings have tangible existence in the mind.
So then you think about that disconnect and then try introducing a medicine designed for biological women to be put into a biological man instead.. well if you research in books about the side affects of a man having low Testosterone.. you coincidentally get all the “normal changes for HRT” pop up like:
• depression
•lack of motivation
•nausea
•brain fog
•fatigue
•osteoporosis…
•thyroid issues
•heart complications
It’s just not something to recommend someone if you truly care about there health and well being.
>• depression
•lack of motivation
•nausea
•brain fog
•fatigue
•osteoporosis…
•thyroid issues
•heart complications
what about low dosing maybe it'll make a highly autistic ocd male into a somewhat normal one
Get him ingratiated with the concept of being a post-gender transexual, enby girltwink, etc.
You can take estrogen and still present as a boyishly androgynous femme gay male. Sure it's still not the same as being a cis twink but it's better than being all affected and skinwalker-y trying to be 'female'. He doesn't have to stop being himself just because his appearance is changing a bit.
I do feel more retarded 10 years into estrogen but I'm also far more emotionally intelligent. I think it just shifts what aspects of your thinking you're good at.
See, the only thing about that is when they start slowly and gradually feeling changes and because they’ll like it as well.. it will just be another falsely identified form of “gender dysphoria”/ dissociation and they’ll eventually convince themselves to up the dose fall off into the slope ):
And the fact that you mentally recognize that, is saddening to me because it means you willingly sacrificed your intelligence to help in managing your appearance in a more positive light ):
unless you are intersex with some sensible xxy syndrome, then it’s just a societal influence or trauma related issue that manifested into dissociation with one’s “biological sex”.
trans people are neurologically different from cis people, the sex center of their brains tend to be more in line with the sex centers of cis people of their experienced gender, and they have characteristic structural features in brain areas related to self-perception and body ownership.
The actual scientific consensus is that being trans is an innate neurological feature of the brain, and that gender identity has a biological etiology. Here's a good literature review on the subject:
sci-hub.se
additionally, things like depression, lack of motivation, brain fog, nausea, fatigue, osteoporosis, etc., are actually not associated with hrt. Brain fog can be caused by certain drugs like spironolactone, which is a side effect unrelated to the hormonal aspect of transition. Osteoporosis isn't caused by hrt at all, it's only something that happens if you block hormones and don't also take estrogen. Like how women in menopause get osteoporosis if they don't take estrogen, same mechanism.
You are objectively wrong, and I'm glad you put the osteoporosis one in there because it makes it clear that you have no idea how this actually works medically .
Why do you value intelligence more than being happy in your body? Being intelligent isn't associated with happiness or success.
Putting value in "being smart" is something people do as a cope for being unhappy. I know because that's something I did as a boy.
Now after transitioning I don't need to pretend that I'm better than other people by virtue of being smart, in fact I would happily trade a good 20 iq points to pass better because that's something that actually makes me happy.
Reading your little trans articles is not a true form of science friend.. I’m srry to be the one to tell you this ):
Gender dysphoria is not real, actually thinking that guys can experience menstrual cycles is insane, and trying to justify the reasoning for a friend trying to protect his twinkfriend from E by saying it’s what he needs?.. is cruel :/
your little trans articles
"Endocrine Practice" is a peer reviewed medical journal
I trust the multiple doctors who wrote that paper a lot more than I trust you
I’m srry you’ve been tricked into believing these networks of information):
It’s okay though because I was tricked as well for 3 years ):
It's not the estrogen, he'd act like that if you gave him a placebo and told him it was hrt.
I'm sorry I trust doctors and peer review more than I trust whatever you listen to
You’re completely fine. You’re probably a tranny as well that got a pit in her stomach after reading this information.
That’s called cognitive dissonance. Let me know what you think after you read it :/
You’re probably a tranny as well that got a pit in her stomach after reading this information
lol what, you think I'm scared that I'm going to start getting nausea, brain fog, and osteoporosis?
No the facts of hormonal imbalances changed in the form “typical effects” on E
my hormones are perfectly balanced though?
I guided my twink friend to it
"Why do people call us groomers?"
I’m sure.
do you know how often I get that checked?
it's more likely that you have unbalanced hormones, you probably have no idea what your levels are like
My levels wete well within range for the last 3 years; according to the trans medical instructions/regimen.
That’s not what I’m talking about though