Should i just transition if i'm a failed male?

ok then you have officially been condoned
go forth and transition

manlet alone makes it not worth it being male

that isn't the biggest problem, i'm just as small/tall as every other guy in my family and they do fine with women. it's just all the other things on top of it
great how do i give myself dysphoria now

small

do fine with women

well in that case you can always try the making 6 figures route to compensate your height

No, there are enough of them already. Look around, they're not happy, they don't magically turn into women. They spend all day here, harassing people and being bitter about being a failed trans person.

It turns out that you can't escape being a failure just by taking hrt.

damn

they do get bfs, though

No thats bad optics

it's only bad optics if you don't pass

Do you really think OP would pass with being 24?

Gender dysphoria can be the cause of those things
t. trooned at 23 and after that became much more outgoing and got to experience life

in all honesty i think i'm just lonely and sad

its ok to be a failed male on estrogen and it doesnt make you trans

Being different from stereotypes doesn't make you failed, don't act like a faggot. You are individual not a copy. Improve what you can and accept what you can't change.

Yes

Also Benis :D

Can relate, been posting some stuff out on this board the past couple days to see if I should go through with a transition, but mine's caused less by my personality being weird for a guy, moreso by my build being weird for a guy. I have normal width shoulders, but they're tiny and rounded off, practically no collarbone because they used it to try and do a bone graft to fix an issue with my shoulders. Then I look down and realize I have a wide pelvis for a dude, it's not fat, it doesn't press in. My fuckin' pelvis is just wide with no real explanation. That kinda shit has resulted in me getting mistaken for a ftm frequently enough in life to make me feel uncomfortable in my own skin.

damn hope you find the right path for you

Theres a high chance you'd land in a polycule where you die of an overdose

could be worse honestly

not unless you have GD
none of those are good reasons

none of those are good reasons

what should i do instead, nobody except for gay guys desires me and i dont wanna be gay

there's no magic cure for being a loser, you just have to work on yourself as best as you can

being a troon rn is way worse than being a single man lmao

there's no magic cure for being a loser

damn
it's not even about being single that's just the consequence but rather that i have pretty shitty personality traits for a guy to have

no loser of course not
srop being failed maale and be the opposite
workout often
get good job
profit!

i dont wanna be gay

What's the point then? There's like 0.9% of females who'd fuck a troon

the life of a guy with shitty personality traits >>>>>>>>>> the life of a troon who is discriminated against in employment, housing, medical care, having to deal with transphobia, etc
not to mention how much more hated hons are, so even if you troon you still have to put in a ton more work just to be at an acceptable level than being a guy.
improving your life as a male is way way way way way way way easier than trooning out.
wake up, anon.

now how do i change my personality

workout

i already do that

good job

will have that in the near future
There are still other tranners idk

who is discriminated against in employment, housing, medical care, having to deal with transphobia

fair

Okay I just wanna cut in here and say that the employer discrimination you'd face for being transgender is nowhere near as bad as what you'd face being physically disabled. You have investors that value companies hiring transgendered individuals. That same sort of privilege doesn't exist for gimps. The best we get is that companies aren't allowed to deny us just because we're gimps, but there's a loophole there, they can still ghost you. I have not found consistent work since I was old enough to start working due to my physical conditions. Please don't pretend like the reality of being trans is any worse than the reality of being disabled.

I have not found consistent work since I was old enough to start working due to my physical conditions

:( idk how but i hope it gets better for you somehow anon

It's okay, I've managed to adopt a more optimistic outlook on life. Sure finding work sucks shit for me, but I have several hobbies that could grant me experience within several higher-level fields, Chemistry being a notable one. Seems like it's my main opportunity what with employers valuing experience over education these days. I just get kinda pissed off when I see progressive types advocating for LGBT/Minorities/Neurodivergents etc when they refuse to help people like us that truly need it.

Also made me come to realize that these people don't truly believe in the crap they say, they're only saying it to get ahead within society.

yeah thats all true. i didn't make that comparison because its not relevant to the topic at hand (cis male vs trans fem).
and yeah companies are made of lower level managers who discriminate even if they put out press releases saying they're equal opportunity employers.
hope things get better, sorry.

nta btw

great how do i give myself dysphoria now

that's the bad part of tranning it up, you don't need it to whoremoan shit up
although idk, I'd normally advocate for HRT and transitioning as the least worst treatment for GD, but without dysphoria the risks/benefits get a bit more shaky

t. failed mail of the it never even began kind

Please don't pretend like the reality of being trans is any worse than the reality of being disabled.

this makes me think my stuff may not be so invalid in comparison, even though it's borderline/hopefully-not disabled, as opposed to "it's over" disabled

Eh I'm ngl, being significantly disabled has taught me to be more appreciative of the small things I have in life. In all sincerity, I've always got the sort of vibe that people who get to the point of suicide are exaggerating their own issues in their heads and that people who actually do have to suffer significantly tend to be more appreciative of the things they can obtain. I know it sounds heartless, but it's honestly what I've observed in people growing up.