femininity just fucking sucks. the world, and women, would be a thousand times better off if women were much more masculine. And I'm not even kidding.
Femininity just fucking sucks. the world, and women...
women should be men and men should be women
simple as
This image is so fembrained
as an mtf i unironically agree. i would never have trooned if women hadn't raped me so much as a child
not the ftm artstyle
Femininity is basically, as decreed by almost every single culture from the beginning of time, to be submissive, subservient, weak, and cute.
THESE TRAITS SUCK
modern idiots that are pro femininity just try to remove the bad parts (being submissive, subservient, weak etc) and call it a day. when femininity is mostly bad so you're removing 90% of a concept and at the end you're basically left with nothing or something so vague and meaningless that it might as well not exist.
masculinity sucks for it's own reasons too, IE avoiding your feelings, violence, etc, but it's kind of the lesser evil of the two. It's either we remove femininity and masculinity all together or just make women more masculine and you'll see results such as domestic violence against women get cut by 90% overnight
no because we'll just get what we have today except with the genders flipped
thanks
shut up
I'm feminist and I agree
Most of the things we consider feminine are things patriarchy taught women to make themselves smaller
I hate brands of feminism that exist to uplift "femininity" as empowering rather than the shackles given to us
Based. Femininity is a handicap.
i think theyre both fine and one doesnt need to be killed in favour of the other
I think 90% cultural ideas of feminity are about either being concerned with one's aesthetic or being a caretaker and I think those connect to our cultural pigeonholing of women into sex objects or mothers and girlboss liberal feminisms insistence on keeping these aspects serves to maintain the old status quo
femininity is basically being a weak submissive coward and masculinity is being a deranged, angry, violent, depressed asshole
both suck. but masculinity is the lesser evil
id disagree masculinity scares me, its all those things and its unpredictable, i feel way safer around other feminine people.
it's the lesser evil in the sense that when it comes to masc vs fem people, masc always comes out on top. due to its inherently traits, and femininity's inherent traits. it's better to be masc than fem even if fem is "nicer" basically. but it's not nicer femininity is just telling women to be submissive (bad)
it is when its forced on people but in a western world how often is it really forced on women? i'm feminine because i've always been more quiet, softer, gentler, and more emotional. nobody made me this way its just how i always was. is there something wrong with that? If a woman wants to be masculine she can, and if a man wants to be feminine he should be able to. but i dont think these characteristic's are a social construct as much as youre implying. its just personality. and would you really have me change my nature to conform to your system :(
it is when its forced on people but in a western world how often is it really forced on women?
you understand that sexism is still pervasive and women in the west did not get (legal) equal treatment until less than a generation ago? that takes a long time to go away. grandmothers that grew up in the 50s tell their daughters to act like that era. they tell their daughters to act like that.
the issue isn't you or one person being feminine it's that a majority of women are feminine. which is bad. because it's not a choice. they're taught to. they're taught to be submissive and subservient and weak. which is what femininity is
toxic femininity bad
positive femininity good
I fucking love women, their kindness, the beauty and compassion they bring to the world, the way they complement my masculinity, and how well we fit together
just don't let (((them))) and similar to brainwash our women with corrosive nonsense
that makes sense. i see how its a tool weaponized against women to keep them down. i can also see why it shouldnt be encouraged. but i also dont think masculinity should be encouraged. when i think of boys being taught masculinity the same way you describe femininity being taught, its the same just in reverse. be dominant strong emotionless, and its taught to establish men over their feminine counterparts, women. if we had to get rid of one why wouldnt we get rid of the one that teaches empathy emotions and sensitivity are weaknesses. that teaches those who are weak need to be controlled. i feel like this is how we take the long road of toxic masculinity towards reestablishing the patriarchy and putting down anyone who is less masculine. it wouldnt matter if we got rid of femininity because with masculinity there is always a hierarchy of strength right? it doesnt matter how masculine you teach people to be there will always be those who are stronger and those who are weaker, and is the nature of masculinity for the strong to control the weak. get rid of masculinity and you create a world of empathy and care. femininity, while you describe is as submissive and subserviently doesn't demand a power structure. femininity can exist without there being a hierarchy of power. feminine people dont need to be controlled, masculine people need to control, which is why masculinity is worse.
Masculinity is about subsidizing that handicap. It is made possible by the "masc" principles;
Sacrifice, desperation, and accountability.
shut the fuck up god damn
Sacrifice, desperation, and accountability.
"masc" principles
Lmao
I agree both are bad and it's best to get rid of both completely, but doing that is much more difficult than just getting women to be more masc. it's easier and overall much more useful to get women to be more masculine than for men to be feminine.
actually you're making me think maybe femininity is the lesser evil? I'm not sure.
but yeah both suck, maybe it doesn't matter which one is the lesser evil, just the concepts of masculinity and femininity are inherently bad and there really is no healthy version of them. you can be kind and empathetic and stuff without being fem
lol
you can be kind and empathetic and stuff without being fem
that's what you think but anyone who acts like that will be feminized in a bad sense (ie seen as a submissive doormat)
Yes, it is basically a tragic joke and now men don't want to be masc
see and if women do that, they're feminized in a """good""" sense. ie they're expected to act submissive. bad
Uhm actually womanhood is power. Who cares that men are stronger. We are divine feminine goddesses of life. We can literally grow a human life inside us. The womb is holy.
Yeah because they are incapable of exerting any kind of power over others. For yourself, though, why would you want to be the helpless one?
We literally slaughter each other to spare the uteruses
womanhood is power cause men are dick driven primates that will mass slaughter each other for a crumb of pussy
No, it's still bad for women if they are seen as submissive doormats because it limits their ability to control their own lives. If you are a traditionalist, I don't really care to argue.
women can be stronger. they are taught or forced to be weak.
they also kill women for pussy? do u know what rape is
women are expected to BE submissive dormats, if they are not they get treated worse than doormats. I'm not a traditionalist where did you get that idea
Rape is when a short man made eye contact with a wombyn goddess
theoretically femininity is just the lesser of two evils in every way, its the force of the dominant oppressor pinned against the submissive oppressed, youre not going to pick the oppressors force when its oppressive in nature. but i can see the argument for practicality. which again i still disagree with because in order to create a safer kinder world we're actively teaching men to feel comfortable showing attributes attributed to femininity such as empathy understanding and compassion. we're not teaching women to rid themselves of those feelings. men join the fight against the forces that oppress women when they are taught femininity, vulnerability, and weakness, are actually okay.
if everyone is helpless then theres no one left to take advantage of it
The only problem with "not doormat" is that you're actually talking about, "bitchy".
This is when someone tries to assert herself far more contemptuously than would be needed because she's afraid of not being taken seriously.
It is fully possible for this to not happen but it's their learned go-to.
I've met women that know how to refute or assert an argument/counterargument without getting "bitchy".
And then they'll fuck the women regardless if they consent or not. They don't kill the other men to impress the women, they kill the other men so they can steal their sex slaves.
we're actively teaching men to feel comfortable showing attributes attributed to femininity such as empathy understanding and compassion.
yeah can you like stop doing that?
it makes men literally undatable, major ick right there
women can be stronger. they are taught or forced to be weak.
Maybe they can become stronger than they are currently, but due to biological constraints, it's still not enough to be able to defend herself when a man wants to have his way with her. Therefore, it's pretty useless.
you may have persuaded me that femininity is the lesser evil, but it's still bad.
yeah thats definitely an interesting problem. and ill admit even i fall victim to it sometimes... but we're not men. and we think critically...and know that a safer and kinder world is better than a world with more attractive assertive dominant men that can make you feel so cared for and secure and good in all the right ways and we wouldnt let our desires cloud our judgment right? we need to keep castrating masculinity...for the greater good
Why do you think men can't be kind and empathetic while also having a strong and aggressive side when needed? Is your ideal man a wife beater?