Meta-Attraction ?

Are you implying the desire for men wears off when you take estrogen?

trannies fuck with men in the beginning because it makes them feel more legit
eventually they don't need it anymore and drop it

Yeahhhh that's you being ashamed to be attracted to men and rationalizing it away with a brain dead cope.

I hope it's not impossible for me to understand, but it's very hard.
Are you saying that you don't look for a man to be strong and protective for you? I find this the biggest difference between me and most gay men. Most gay men want to have an equal relationship with a man. I don't I want the man to be more masculine more of a stronger protective partner for me. Maybe this is what meta attraction is but then women have met attraction if this is true because I think most women like men because of their protective instinctual desires.

Look first of all I am transgender. And I don't understand what you're talking about. I understand legit is in feeling like you're really like a woman. I just don't get the sexual connection unless you're saying that when you have your man protect you and treat you like the more vulnerable partner this is met attraction?

I agree with you. Maybe you're the one giving me the answer I'm looking for.
They feel a strong attraction to men is male homosexual. After they transition, they're no longer willing to admit having a strong sex drive coz trans women don't want to admit an atraction because they're not homosexual males

meta-attraction is "oh I'm just not really a homosexual man"

youre attracted to the idea more than the reality because of the specific way it places you in the center

No this is also not true. Women, both cis and trans are shy about being sexually objectified and men are scary and dangerous. We would rather be in the woods with a bear than with a man we don't know!!

But meta attraction is not real it's just an ancient blanchard meme he made up to try to pretend a certain group of trans women didn't really like men.

This doesn't explain anything because I don't understand how you can be attracted to an idea? An idea is not a sexual entity, or an object

Why are gays so possessive of trans women. Get away from us you freaks! We want nice straight guys not you nasty chauvinist gay pests.

It is real. I don't like any specific man or male traits. The men in my fantasies are faceless, they exist as a prop to enhance my fantasy of being a woman.

I'm a trans woman and I'm not afraid of men unless I was alone in a dark fight with a man I didn't know and even then my protection would probably be enough to make me feel safe. It doesn't explain attraction or met attraction

It's just autistic rambling where they're like "i have a sexual fetish for cock but I'm romantically attracted to women!" But in reality they've never talked to women or experienced romance.

it is bullshit because cis women experience it too

It's just high-context androphilia, which is typical of cis women. The reason it's a meme is because men like Blanchard can't comprehend women's sexuality because they don't think such a thing even exists.

I'm not a gay man! I was gay before I transitioned. Since I've transitioned, my sexuality hasn't changed in any way other than being less intense.
If that's what metatraction is, I got my answer. Some women are very sexual about men.

The men in my fantasies when I masturbate are faceless too, doesn't change the fact that I love my boyfriend. Many women have degrading rapey fantasies and faceless men fit better into those.

You're sexually naive. Meta attraction doesn't exist. It's a meme used for transbians to distance themselves from their male attraction, same as "prog gives me straight thoughts" and "my gf and I have an open relationship." Cis het women experience the same "meta attraction" that Trans women do and when you actually date men the so called meta attraction hits even better because there's no cognitive dissonance.

A lot of this goes back to the fact that males are raised to believe that without access to women they can never experience romantic love. The idea of losing the possibility of a romantic partnership with a woman is literally a kind of social and reproductive death that chills transbians to their bone. Their bodies wants to fulfill their natural role (because of estrogen) but their minds can't accept it.

Why would somebody who is a woman wish to be sexually attracted to another woman?
I can understand if they're just gay but I can't understand anyone wanting to be sexy attracted to a woman, unless they want to be a man. This topic is very confusing

You're saying a lot but I don't really understand what you're getting at? I knew I was gay when I was 12 years old but I always wanted to be a woman. I don't know if this is meta-attraction?

It doesn't cease to exist because you said so. When I see attractive woman, I can list what makes her attractive to me. It'a very visual. But for men, it's just blank. It just exists as a vague concept that's focused on me as a woman anyway.

Are you saying you're a heterosexual man but want to be a woman? Are you saying you're not sexually attracted to the body of a man? What do you mean by their faceless you don't like men's faces? Why can't any of you answer my questions more simply?

Are you saying you're a heterosexual man but want to be a woman?

Yes.

Are you saying you're not sexually attracted to the body of a man?

Yes.

What do you mean by their faceless you don't like men's faces?

I don't imagine man's face or body when I imagine being fucked by one as a woman. They don't matter in the fantasy.

Why can't any of you answer my questions more simply?

I can answer any question you'll ask me, I have nothing to hide.

Meta-attraction is when lateshits become attracted to men who resemble their former selves.
Most apparent in the incel to tranny pipeline where former incels go on to date current incels (thus saving two people from inceldom).

So then according to you, transgender is not a small subset of very feminine gay men? I've always assumed so, I think it's true with me.
I still don't get why you wouldl want to have sex with men, if you're not attracted to them?

Retarded takes.

Meta-attraction is nerds who troon out go after nerds. Jocks who troon out go for jocks. Fags who troon out go for fags.

lit. you are attracted to men who resemble your former (male) self.

I've usually heard a different one, meta-attraction being you being attracted to being attracted to men

That's really bizarre! I would never find somebody attractive who looks like the former me because I look like a little ugly faggot. I like really masculine looking men

Not true at all! I'm attracted to very masculine looking men and some gay men who look really masculine I find really attractive to do so much more approachable and straight men and they usually have better hygiene. I'm not at all attracted to anyone that looks like how I looked before because I'm not attracted to little wimpy men

transgender is not a small subset of very feminine gay men?

No. There are those, but also males like me, attracted to women as well as attracted to being a woman.

I still don't get why you wouldl want to have sex with men, if you're not attracted to them?

Because they could validate you as a woman.

No that's just AGP.
You've got to understand Blanchard is a Freudian. So boys either date their mothers or date the opposite, while girls date their fathers or date the opposite, because oedipus.

But (straight) trannies don't date their mothers or their fathers, they date themselves.

I don't. I have meta-attraction hardcore and want a whole harem of fat nerdy boys. Surprisingly hard to find.

So you're not meta-attracted. Good for you I guess. It's not like it matters.

Uh, all I'm really understanding from you is that you're saying you're attracted to women and want to be a woman, which is okay ig.
Before your transition, were you dating women? Did women reject you and you find it easier to have women find you attractive as lesbian? I don't see how anything validates you as a woman, other than your own mind?

No that's just AGP.

I don't think so

I haven't transitioned.

Huh how do you know you're attracted to women as a trans woman if you're not a transgender person?

That's because women's beauty is visual. Men's beauty is tactile and context dependent. The firmness and roughness of male physique, the greater body heat of male bodies, the fact that they have massive fully functioning cocks to stick in you, their greater strength and size, as well as their insistent, arrogant attitude and disregard for what you think, inviting you to submit.

Usually when I go on a date with a man i don't start out by being visually attracted to him, but if he makes me laugh, says and does the right things, is calm and confident but not pushy, is patient, then suddenly something clicks: this man will make me feel very safe and good and I want to let him do what he wants to me. This is very common for women.

I am not disagreeing that you're also attracted to women. I am too. But the biological reality is that for 99% of women, our body and personality function better in a heterosexual dynamic. Me and another woman can admire each other but we can't sexually satisfy each other because both of us would be expecting the other to fulfill the male role. However if there was a man involved and it was a three way we would both be able to experience simultaneous submissive arousal and engage in sex acts freely for his viewing pleasure.

I'm attracted to men; I am transgender. This would make me straight transgender woman. I'm certainly not attracted to my former self and I've told you that already. Guys who look like my former self are ugly little men!

I am attracted to women, always have been. I wouldn't expect that to change even if I took HRT.
You make some interesting points, I can't deny that.

I'm very attracted to men visually! Many women are also attracted to women to men's bodies.
The rest of what you wrote sounds like a romance novel.

THEN YOU'RE NOT META-ATTRACTED
Jesus fuck your intelligence and listening skills are definitely those of a woman.

I believe you but you're not a trans woman so I'm going to take your thinking with a grain of salt because you don't really have the personal experience

Well, this thread is about meta-attraction and I think I do experience that, despite not being a trans woman, that's why I engaged with it.

I don't know if I meta attracted. It's the whole reason I posted this.

I was attracted to men like a typical gay boy Until I transitioned

I'm still sexually attracted to men but more romantically so since I transitioned I looked for men who are strong and capable of taking care of me, more like a woman I guess?

Is this what they mean by being meta-attracted?

So you're like a gay guy who fantasizes about being some woman with a gay man? I think I've been a little bit like that myself so we have that in common but I've never taken an interest in women sexually. I don't need to really like women's bodies that much but I think that's because I wasn't raised a girl. I never got used to it?

I'm attracted to men visually at times but it's like something i feel i usually have control over (unless me and said guy actually get together in private) but I do feel like women are "the more attractive gender) like our clothes makeup and hairstyles are all super cute and like I just love staring at hot women and I am kind of a massive pervert. Like my boyfriend and I watched terrifier 2 last night and I just kept drooling and pining over the main character's costume and my boyfriend was like uhh can you pay attention to the movie? ... maybe he got jealous... sigh.

I am not gay. If I was gay, I'd be able to be truly attracted to men, but I am not. I don't fantasize about being with gay men as a woman. The men in my fantasies don't have any traits, they only exist conceptually. I really don't think why is it such a complicated matter.

If you fantasize about faceless men fucking you in your fantasies you are physically and romantically attracted to men, the right guy can be both a nice guy who makes you feel loved and also a dominant faceless enditity who literally exists to fill your holes in and make you orgasm.

I really don't like women's clothes. I don't really like having breast desu. I know men like them. I've always been really feminine as a child and it was much easier for me to live as a woman.
I wouldn't like to have a classical woman body with really big hips and really large breasts

I honestly recognize a difference between my attraction to men and women. I don't even google handsome men to imagine having sex with them. I spend so much time looking at beautiful women, either imagining being one and/or being with them sexually.

I don't know why it's hard for me to understand either but when you say you're not gay yet you sleep with men because it makes you feel like a woman I just get lost. It sounds like a transgender woman who wants to have a man in her life fantasy

Hons will copy everything cis women and tell themselves "they act like a woman". They see that cis women date men, so they go and date men too. Hell if cis women jumped off a bridge, hons would copy that too.

everything cis women do*

I like women's faces, but I have absolutely no interested in their bodies. If I could pass as a woman with a male body and a female face, I think I'd be most content

No.
Meta-attracted means being attracted to men who resemble your former self.
You are not attracted to men who resemble your former self.
Ergo you are not meta-attracted.
Now leave Anon Babble and do something meaninful with your life.

I don't sleep with anyone. It's all just a fantasy to get me off.

Women's bodies are gorgeous, I love everything about them.

I've never really paid much attention to women. Once I transition I felt more Force to pay attention to women. Now I'm pretty well adjusted to women's conversation and preferred because it's not all about sex. I think women in generally are less sexual. Then some women contradict my thoughts

I still think of that as a male sexual desire. I know some women who are really pulled themselves but they don't have the same emotional connection with their body in a sexual way as you do

I never had a slightest doubt that I am male. So male sexual desires are expected.

How would anyone be attracted to somebody who looks like a complete wimp as a man.? I've never met a single woman who was attracted to the kind of male I was before I transitioned it was mainly the reason I transitioned. Gay men have the same standards; I wasn't considered attractive, as a gay man.

Why be rude and tell me to leave? I'm not telling you to leave. Do you think you run this site ?

I really don't think I'm male and it seems stupid to say that because I have nothing this is the wrong with me until I transition I was physically male but I was a small ugly little male and look better as a female but I really don't think I wasn't actually born male. I think there was something wrong with me they haven't figured yet?

unironically just a cope explanation for why nonpassing hsts and bi trannies exist