What is the Anon Babble consensus on the relationship between Anon Babble people and religion?

go worship your donkey god and fuck off

not a guy and idk what warhammer is lol
why do atheists get so mad lol

why do cultists insist on spreading their hateful shit everywhere

rent freeeee
christ is king

what's hateful? ur the only hateful person here

dogwhistle elsewhere, supremacist
your cult will end soon enough

people have been saying this for 2000 years lol. we arent going anywhere

king of having his ass whooped by pontius pilate maybe

I'm an atheist. I don't care about religion.

still king, still one of the most popular major religions on earth

i know alot of lesbians that live the church life . i call them the church girls
politically we are on entire different spectrums.
but irl we are very chill and much love with similar interests/hobbies.
like one of them adopted a horsey i was working on recently.
for some reason alot of lesbians like me now that am thinking about it.
it is weird because like online, we would not get along at all. 0%.
but irl we vibe extraordinarily well. i think more chudellas and chudettes would appreciate some lesbian church girls in their lives.

after leaving christianity behind following a period of intense reflection, i slowly progressed into humanism, then pagan humanism, then paganism, then atheism, then nihilism, and finally what i guess you could call agnostic existentialist nihilism (fun little word salad)
if religion is organized and standardized worldview in-practice, most religion is unfriendly to lgbt people, because standardization typically rejects the non-standard (i.e. us)
especially religions with a conservative lean (as in, literally conserving the past) are cruel to lgbt people because there wasn't a past precedent for us.. which, ironically, is because people just like them in the past were cruel to us for the same reasons

repressing desires and tendencies to fit in will twist a person
repression is really never the way, the best way to address issues is to get at the root cause
and in the case of lgbt, the root cause is the person's very nature
it's easier in the short term to ignore your nature to fit in, but it doesn't go well in the long term
there are definitely people inherently attracted to minors, but i believe they have the ability to not act on those desires in a way harmful to others
the priest pedos are the ones that repress instead of address

after many years of confusion regarding religion i came to the conclusion that ritual, practice, spirituality, etc. are all useful ways to interpret the world around us
i for one like to paint on my face with charcoal and sing songs in the forest
considering formalizing some worship of baphomet to get more in touch with healthy hedonism in my life actually

i'm literally a scythian anayra lol

we're dead you retard, we've always been dead and always shall be. but in Christ, we live.

i wouldn't say that they're the death of reason, they're just forms of reasoning based on outdated and disproven contexts

robs you of your agency

unfortunately typically true, religions don't like you thinking for yourself because it disrupts their conserved worldview
it's really disappointing that almost all highly developed religions are so conservative in nature
--- some rambling on that topic ---
and honestly, it's disappointing how conservative people are in general
not that preserving aspects of the past is bad, but healthy conservatism naturally requires changing with a changing world
conservation does not need to mean staying rooted in the past behaviorally and idealistically
the world is in constant flux; it makes no sense to reject that fact
conservatism should really translate to a preservation and respect for the past, not being stuck in it
the record of humanity's development is invaluable to us, and deserves a great deal of respect. we should be looking to history for our answers as part of addressing our current problems
that doesn't have to mean accepting the answers in history as just as good for the now ;-;
those contexts are outdated and lost to time

live and let live i think
the best way to convince someone of something is to get them to convince themselves
and for highly religious people, their programmed reaction to their faith being challenged is to cling to it even harder
the best way to change their mind is honestly to do nothing and live your life
if their worldview is really flawed or flat-out incorrect, it will likely fail them at some point
what they do then is up to them
religion may be a social contagion (i think it is) but the only way to eradicate it is to not interact with it, because they are programmed by the social contagion to interpret disagreement as proof of their religion's legitimacy
which doesn't make sense, but does keep them in their circles
i speak from experience in those circles

live and let live i think

MAYBE THE FUCKING CULTISTS SHOULD START LETTING LIVE, THEN, INSTEAD OF FORCING THEIR SHIT ON US

noones forcing anything on u

go fuck yourself

ur obv completely sane and not schizophrenic

the religious right who are hell-bent on eradicating trannies in the west are currently pushing legislation at local and federal levels to force it on people, it's been forced on people for centuries, seriously go fuck yourself retard

i agree
i've been put in a situation in the good ol' USA where i may have to leave the country if things go particularly bad
it's really scary
but you can't kill an idea with weapons and you're wasting your time trying to kill an idea with words that only reinforces itself when provoked
kindness is so, so hard when it comes to this topic, but i have the most basic respect for even disgustingly hateful people
i think that by nature, humans are selfish
in many, that selfishness manifests at the cost of others, and that's what i interpret as wrong
but selfishness is also what drives us to eat and sleep and stay alive- it's our nature
if we have free will, the ability for consciousness to feed into action, and i believe we do, then hateful people have the capacity to change
they're selfish people too, only at the cost of others
arguing with them doesn't work so i'm just going to live my life and try my best to be empathetic
holding onto that hate and bitterness will get me nowhere
i'm going to try to be healthy regardless of their rhetoric

just trying to live life i guess

oh yeah, probably good to add that this is ofc all personal opinion and i'm not closed off to the possibility that i'm wrong on all this
i certainly don't think it's the case, but the christians/etc. could have been right all along

u sound very sane

what did I say that was in any way incorrect?

that it's every christian person in the entire west

weird, can you please rephrase that for clarity or quote what I said directly? because I don't think I said that

I don't understand why religious queers feel the need to join mainstream religions when they could just believe in a God and have their own idea of heaven, morals and God's plan.
Why do you feel the need to defend the Bible's takes on slavery and homos or stupid rules like not wearing clothes of different fabric and call it "Old and non-relevant in modern theism" (even tho God's words are supposed to be absolute) or say the people who wrote the Bible trying to transcribe God's words just did mistakes (completely unfounded, if that's the case why are you even following anything that's written in there) when you could just believe in the idea of God itself and make your own rules, a God who loves you and treat people with respect and doesn't flood the earth for fun or asks his followers to kill children or spreads things like the Plague for some reason.
Believing in God is based, trying to defend religions that have been advocating for your extermination for thousands of years is retarded, a God would never want to see its creation suffer, go and follow your heart, that's what they'd want

Why do you feel the need to defend the Bible's takes on slavery

cuz slavery is bad and shouldn't exist???

cuz slavery is bad and shouldn't exist???

Are you absolutely retarded?
The Bible advocates for slavery that's why I'm pointing this out

Former Christian here, using old covenant rules as an argument is silly as most Christians believe the new covenant supercedes and excepts the old covenant. There are multiple instances of Jesus directly contradicting old covenant rules and even acknowledging the fact, such as his position on divorce. If you're going to argue against Christian theology at least engage with what Christians actually believe. Your points that an all-knowing, all-good, all-powerful God wouldn't permit mankind to suffer are valid and I agree with them, but it's so overdone as an argument that most Christians meet it with stuff like "good can't exist without evil," "evil in the world is a result of our free will to sin," and "God works in ways that supercede human understanding." If you did want to make an argument in that vein, you should at least seriously research the Epicurean paradox and its rebuttals.
This may be true in the OT, but not the NT, which supercedes the OT as stated before. Often people quote Paul saying that slaves should relegate themselves to their lot in life as proof otherwise, but the actual position isn't equivalent to slavery being good. Rather, Paul is saying that the kingdom of heaven is the reward for those who suffer in life and that reward far exceeds any worldly existence. As before, I don't agree with the statement but it's wrong to see it as a tacit agreement with slavery as a practice, especially when Paul says afterwards that slave owners will be slaves in the kingdom of heaven.

The take I see being worthwhile for Christian queers to take is to do what they can to help inform others about the mistakes they're making by seeing lgbt people as inherently sinful and pushing them away. The people who carry this on generally just believe whatever they've heard in the past and don't make an effort to come to an independent conclusion on such topics. Also, like the other guy said, many of the rules you brought up are not still applicable to today. A lot of things discussed were descriptive of the culture of the time, intended to set apart ancient Israel from the other groups around them.

This may be true in the OT, but not the NT, which supercedes the OT

many of the rules you brought up are not still applicable to today

Saying that modern christians don't advocate for it or that it was overruled by the NT is stupid it was still God's words at some point, how could a God be wrong or change his opinion on something when he's all-knowing? You can't believe the OT is null and believe God is perfect at the same time, you can't say God's word is non-negotiable and then also say the OT doesn't matter because he "corrected" it with the NT

Also all of my critique of religion also apply to Jews, Muslims, Taoists, Buddhists or wathever the fuck

no other christian in current year is doing anything malicious to trans people

are you deaf, blind and retarded anon?

following a big religion like christianity/islam is a sign of mental weakness to me
like you have all of these potential paths for your subjective experience and you choose "the walmart no-name brand" everyone else says works just fine, then we all deal with the side effects of your lazy choices

none but ur generalizing christians

I dont know how most Christians reconcile the OT's nullification with God's perfection. You'd have to talk to an actual Christian to find out how instead of jerking yourself of for being so smart and le BTFO'ing people you don't talk to.

Also all of my critique of religion also apply to Jews, Muslims, Taoists, Buddhists or wathever the fuck

I'd be very curious to hear how your critique of religion applies to Buddhism as I am a Buddhist and could actually discuss that with you. It seems to me like your critique is very uniquely targeted at Christianity and would even have difficulty applying to certain schools of Jewish and Muslim thought.

The whole point of it was the intent that it held when it was written. The OT was made to explain to the Israelites where their nation came from and what they must do to achieve a holy standard. Their rituals and whatnot were fulfilled by Christ, so that they are no longer necessary. It's not that God's mind was changed; it's that God provided a way out of it. Jesus stated that he didn't come to abolish the law, but to fulfill it. Additionally, many of the things addressed in much of the NT were written specifically to address current issues in churches at the time. For today, many of our issues are do not have a one to one likeness to the issues in the NT. The best we can do is to consider how the issues of that time were approached, and take a similar approach. Unlike actual legal systems, this involves following the spirit of the law rather than the letter of the law.

instead of jerking yourself of for being so smart and le BTFO'ing people you don't talk to.

nope i'll keep doing that, i am objectively smarter and morally superior to people who believe in mainstream religion

It seems to me like your critique is very uniquely targeted at Christianity

Fair, I was mainly talking about christianity because that's the one people on here would believe in the most but I hate muslims with as much (if not more) passion because that's the people I grew up around even tho i'm in west europe lol

idc

woah ur crazy

no idea what you're talking about

hehe jk i know what you're talking about, but

not all christians

kill yourself

half of these M&Ms are poison

you don't want a handful, anon?

kill yourself

totally sane btw
thats why u lost back back when the romans were still around and thats why ur still losing now

Made for corruption.

Religiosity = lack of a critical mind, as shrimple as that, being a fag doesn't really change it in any aspect, maybe even reinforces it

I'm a virgin and I sometimes want to larp as a religious god loving celibate just so a man will want to defile my angelic purity and make me cuck god in his own house

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totally sane btw

indeed, it is sane NOT to believe in the magical zombie rabbi that watches me masturbate

thats why u lost back back when the romans were still around and thats why ur still losing now

appeal to popularity

this is why people think christians are retarded
you have no sense of truth, rationality, empiricism, or really anything abstract whatsoever, because you act like an ape with a tribal mindset that can't do anything other than parrot the nonsense you're told to say

christians are always losing, have always been losing, on every front that actually matters (e.g science, rights etc.)

the only "win" you have is that a lot of other morons believe the same moronic shit you do, which is not an accomplishment -- it's the aftermath of your intellectual, emotional and spiritual laziness that results in you choosing the Walmart bargain-bin version of a worldview because you're probably too retarded to understand anything else anyway

I'm catholic and my trans gf is orthodox. Neither of us attend church because the religions are good but the institutions are trash.