Female fencer takes knee in protest against trans opponent

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Can we talk about this?

Im trans, but I am genuinely sick of seeing transwomen in womens sports. I could not imagine being a woman, not being competitive in mens leagues, and then having my own league get taken over by a natal male.

And then every comment about it is from an utter Asshole. Like, very disparaging/rude/cocky trans people acting holier than though, while having 0 logic as to why cis women have to put up with this. Its just gross and make me genuinely hate other trans people.

Can we talk about this?

Im trans, but I am genuinely sick of seeing transwomen in womens sports. I could not imagine being a woman, not being competitive in mens leagues, and then having my own league get taken over by a natal male.

And then every comment about it is from an utter Asshole. Like, very disparaging/rude/cocky trans people acting holier than though, while having 0 logic as to why cis women have to put up with this. Its just gross and make me genuinely hate other trans people.

submitted and knelt to her king on reflex

Yeah, I mean I really don't care about sports, so if that's providing a gateway for transphobic media to radicalize them against us, I'd definitely want to stop. I wouldn't care about being banned from professional women's sports - small price to pay for medical and social transition.

She got on her knees as a submissive gesture signaling she wanted to suck her opponent's GOCK

Can you imagine showing a bunch of WWII soldiers in the trenches the primary way we acknowledge WWII in 2025 is through arguments about their feminized grandsons

transwomen

natal male

why cis women have to put up with this

sports posting

At least try to learn the nomenclature of wherever you're trying to larp on as a tranny before doing it.
Also see u after you poon out in 3 years if this shit hole is still around lol. Larping as a troon to 'totally own them' is always how it starts.

I would get on my knees for my queen too

Larping as a troon to 'totally own them' is always how it starts.

Survivorship bias. Not OP but I like to bully you guys sometimes and it’s been a friggin decade

I am definitely trans, if youre trying to insinuate otherwise. I just, think its pretty obvious that amabs and afabs are born with different traits. I like competing in video games, but suck, so I stick with amatuer leagues. I would be furious if a pro started competing in my league.

I can post pics I guess. Im not kidding, I am trans.

I am definitely trans, if youre trying to insinuate otherwise. I just, think its pretty obvious that amabs and afabs are born with different traits. I like competing in video games, but suck, so I stick with amatuer leagues. I would be furious if a pro started competing in my league.

Also see u after you poon out in 3 years if this shit hole is still around lol. Larping as a troon to 'totally own them' is always how it starts.

Why cant you just engage with the conversation, instead of flinging shit like a monkey? This is exactly why I got so tilted in the first place

It's over

How old are you? Are you under 20?

Bully me in the bedroom

This is so dumb if real, fencing as an afab would have given her an advantage due to the lower center of balance.

Why cant you just engage with the conversation, instead of flinging shit like a monkey? This is exactly why I got so tilted in the first place

Because it's fun, and everything on the internet is ultimately meaningless if you live an actually healthy life. I like the banter ^^

making fun of short men for their immutable physical characteristics will definitely make people vote for my team!

we r the side of respect and human kindness btw

why do progs cuck themselves so badly?

See how you were wrong + have to act coy about it now.

People like you suck shit. Slam your forehead on a wall.

Nice pics. Tho desu not very trustable. Tranphobes are known for having gargantuan collections of pictures of random trannies. It's rlly weird desu lol.

Male brains just want it more

I know ur just baiting for more pics

My regional fencing league is mixed sex and cis women regularly win events against taller men

Look all I'm saying is that if u wanna actually be able to larp properly on here you should drop the reddit spacing minimum.
Tho I get why a stick in the mud transphobe would be a grammer nazi abt paragraphs lol.
Ur a nerd. Suck my atrophied tranny balls :D

The point of the problem is:

Men and women have different frames/bodies at birth.

Its not even about winning or losing, its about being able to compete in a league in the way you expected it to be. But clearly the cis girl didnt realize it was a possibility.

Its just really lame and I hope cis women, in the future, will be able to have their own leagues exactly the way they want it to be, without any interference.

These are me
You are just saying nothing for (yous) and acting smug about it. You're probably very fat. Pretending like someone isnt who they are is a bad way to cope.

Women's leagues were not formed because "women were not competitive in men's leagues." Women's leagues were formed because men refused to play any sports events where women were involved. It was about fighting against literal, actual discrimination on the basis of gender.
History repeating itself...

Lame and boring thread. Ur just gonna be a broken record for the rest of this about whatever the fuck and hope that people keep bumping it because ur boring.
Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmeeeeeeeee

I will literally give you my discord if you want to have an actual conversation about it?

I sound like a broken record to you because no one is providing any counter to what Im saying.

I guarantee youre only 16 with the way you're acting.

I love seeing trannies in womens sport. Fuck feminists. If women are just as good as men at everything let the troons into your competition. Also trannies are very nice feminists are abrasive man-hating cunts. Even transbians are at least good to talk to.

(you)

I mean having done contact sports myself I could see hormone levels being done similarly to weight classes, but I dont necessarily think that is going to be a perfect solution nor think that it is ever going to satisfy the otherwise completely uninvested politicians and political activists. What a lot of them arent saying out loud is that they dont just want trans women out of sports, they want cis women out of the less “feminine” sports too, back in the kitchens. They dont give a fuck about fair sports, or the women in them. They give a fuck about furthering their political careers.

I guarantee they originate from a number of different things lol.

And I guarantee, they're still around, for a number of different reasons.

Don't try to write this off as "history repeating itself" because you have confirmation bias. I am making the points that I think people deserve the right to group themselves however they want, for whatever reasons they want.

People with your logic are the ones discriminating against gender by saying any cis female who doesn't want to play against a transwoman is transphobic. Get some fucking respect for people.

None of this is particularly relevant to anyones talking points. Yes: bad people exist. Anyways...

Oh, I'm not denying ciswomen are inferior at most sports!
I'm just saying that's not THE point of women's sports.
Competitive women's sports about highlighting the accomplishments of an equity-seeking group, to break down stereotypes against women's participation in sports at large.
Trannies are also a marginalized, equity-seeking group. Heck, trannies are probably more discouraged from participating in sports than ciswomen are! Trannies deserve role models to break down the stereotypes that they have no place in sport.

Competitive women's sports about highlighting the accomplishments of an equity-seeking group, to break down stereotypes against women's participation in sports at large.

WHAT

Bro you are DELUSIONAL if you actually think this.

Honey, they literally arent as strong or tall as amabs are. Thats it. History didn't plot some big, glass ceiling event for women in sports.

Its just about competition, and women werent competitive, so they have their own leagues so that they at least get a chance to compete.

I think all sports events should be mixed gendered.
For individual events, leagues should create objective rankings of all the participants relative to one another. However, they should ensure representation of various equity-seeking groups at all events, to promote inclusion and participation in sports. The global rankings can be filtered however you want. If you think "only ciswomen are real women!" then you can filter them to only ciswomen and find the best one. If you think "transwomen are real women!" then you can filter them to trannies and ciswomen.
For team events, then just run mixed teams with an obligation to include representation from a few equity-seeking groups.

The pissing and moaning over individual sports is the dumbest shit, really. You so offended to be in the same pool as a tranny? Come the fuck off it.

How is pointing out that the reason people suddenly care about this is politicians taking something and making a big deal out of it for their own profit not relevant?
I mean

I hope cis women, in the future, will be able to have their own leagues exactly the way they want it to be, without any interference.

Is just not possible in part because cis women arent just 1 person with 1 opinion, but also because they, like everyone else, arent immune to political and economical influences and biases when defining their ideas of fairness.
Studies concerning transwomen, intersex conditions, and high T cis women in sports arent even properly finished yet (and no, the idea that more muscle=always better doesnt appear to be holding up so far), meanwhile we have confirmation that media attention on the subject is artificially inflated by Russian bots to generate division.
I mean. HOW is this not relevant for the future of cis women in sports? But whatever. Take care i guess. Im done here

t. Cis woman, formerly in sports, tired of outsiders virtue signalling with this shit

The pissing and moaning over individual sports is the dumbest shit, really. You so offended to be in the same pool as a tranny? Come the fuck off it.

Dude you arent worth talking to when you cant even Open your Ears to hear what the other opinion is.

Its not about individual sports, its not about that they dont think they are women, its literally just about what competition to expect.

You didnt even write anything besides an entire paragraph of your own theoretical solution, and then screeching that the other opinions are "pissing and moaning"

Genuinely, grow up.

HOW is this not relevant for the future of cis women in sports?

Um, its not relevant to MY point. I am not talking about the hormones. Trans women are women.

What do you want me to say? Youre arguing with the wind.