every time i see something about trannies going to therapy they always just get worse and more mentaly ill and dysphoric which makes me not want to go 60 feet near one because i don't want to get more dysphoric
Does therapy even help trannies?
going to therapy is opening a can of radioactive worms and trusting that the normie papermill graduate sitting across from you will know how to clean it up
Going to therapy means unbottling all the shit you've refused to process which will momentarily throw you into turmoil which is necessary to work through it and heal
A lot of people can't handle it and stop therapy when that happens and don't heal
it hasn't helped much as of now h most therapist suck so much
This. Also therapy is effective if you have friends/family to support you through it
theRapist is a transphobe
I think left leaning people are more likely to go into psychology so usually not, but it happens
My last therapist had Jesus memorabilia in her office so I never got into gender or sexuality stuff with her
Shame because she helped a lot in other ways
Must be nice to be a therapist. You get to tell your clients to do your job for you then laugh all the way to the bank
6 months of doing psilocybin occasionally helped me more than like 3 years of therapy desu I think the deal is that most therapists struggle to really get autistic people so it's like talking to a wall
is there something wrong? tell urself that actually it’s ok and the bad thing isn’t a bad thing, do it until u become delulu and actually think the bad thing is good
there i just saved u from wasting money
you need to stick with it and put effort in just as much as the therapist does. also if you have an undiagnosed cluster B disorder normal therapy will just make you insanely pissed off. for people not cluster B it goes like:
hmmm i have these problems
[therapist talks you through them and you uncover insights about yourself]
wow this insight puts me at ease. maybe there are solutions to my problems, or at least explanations that don't simply mean im a bad person
[therapist guides you through potential solutions and acts as a confidential sounding board during your healing process]
cluster b mode:
hmmm i have these problems
[therapist talks you through them and you uncover insights about yourself]
this insight is useless to me, i couldve figured that out so its meaningless and also it just makes me feel worse? you just told me a bunch of facts that describe how shitty i am
[therapist tries to reveal more insight because the first round of insight didn't help but you are consumed by how uncomfortable the situation makes you and you grow to hate them and stop going]
there are a ton of therapists that refuse to work with cluster B patients for this reason. that being said you can also find specialists that do, it's well studied, you just need to be aware.
this. i get more relief out of a moderate or low dose of psilocybin.
i go to alot of therapy.
i always feel weird after like not good and bad things happen.
my rape therapist stopped because i started doing drugs
I'm not positive therapy even helps cis people
also i hate that theyre like "oh yeah we'll help you do that, yeah we can help you do that, yeah.."
nothing happens.
just getting towed along and getting milked.
my situation isnt getting better.
i am getting weaker and the safety nets i need arent in place. its not looking good.
but i will just commit myself too when it gets bad later on this year. like at beginning of winter probably i will be homeless or institutionalized by then np.
I've been with EIGHT therapists and none offered any insights a out myself. In favt they even told me they are specifically told not to do that and that's just tv therapists. Therapists are supposed to teach coping skills and offer affirmation as you vent and specifically avoid giving life advice or doing anything that wasn't your idea in the first place. The affirmation tends to lead in to circles of the patient thinking of horrible feelings, saying them out loud, being told "that must be so hard," and then returning and repeating the week after. This process genuinely left me worse off because it just left me focusing on the bad things
thats exactly whats happening to me rightnow.
i just wanted help doing paperwork and navigating the system process.
not talking about fucked up shit i buried in the past
i am trying to deal with my future.
Sounds like they sniped your cluster b issues lol
not op but that describes me well.. idk where to find bpd specialists tho I found none
idk what to tell you then anon. ironically the process you describe, of affirming your feelings and helping you sit with them, is a specific technique developed for cluster B patients. the traditional type of therapy draws from CBT (cognitive behavior therapy) and cluster B methods were a refined form of CBT that's called DBT (dialectical behavioral therapy.) in your case it sounds like they're dropping the ball extremely hard if they're just patting you on the head while you repeat how many times youve been raped.
It sounds like they haven't sniped my issues if they're not being helpful
I wouldn't mind it if it were helpful. But they don't listen to it and unlock me and psychoanlyze me like this is The Sopranos. They just treat it like venting and tell me I'm processing it. Okay no I'm ruminating on it and getting worse
this seems fairly accurate, but in my experience as a non cluster B, my first therapist (from age 8 to 18) was 100% like the former. every therapist I had after went like:
"i have these problems"
therapist asks me to indulge further
i explain further
therapist adds no insight, just a blank wall
sends me off to SMI section
gets me cbt
cbt doesn't fucking work, everything suggested doesn't work, OCD too severe to do half of it
refuse to work with my OCD
try dbt despite not having a personality disorder in hopes it will work, fearing it was undx cluster B slop
just bottle up emotions and power through as long as possible as a result
all the sessions, while nice, are 90% me venting about dumb shit with no payoff. feel better though
go through every psych there, all of them blaming shit like my bipolar on my weight or being extremely transphobic
i changed providers recently (more like around december i think) but i haven't seen any of their therapists yet, only peer support and a psych, of which i like both. the old office fucked up my records as well, they were practically vandalized, the peer support ACTUALLY helps though so i'm pretty happy.
yeah same.
what i initially wanted help with has sidetracked entirely and seems like they just focus on the sa/dv part of it and i'm like. im over it. i need help right now in other ways.
like helping me do this paperwork. and guiding me through the system process so i can get some things i am legally supposed to have access to..
I hate on therapy so much because I want to go to a real old school psychoanalyst who would listen to my free association and provide targeted specific interpretations that I could respond to with further analyzable material and my goal would be to understand exactly why I can't accept my fathers love and try to please my mother so much. I don't care about DBT CBT EFGHIJKLMNOP therapyslop. I want real answers.
peer support
oh this is also another big thing. therapy just doesnt work sometimes if you dont have any kind of support network. its why they're so often intertwined with intentionally constructed support groups. if the group you get sucks or you don't go, that could be impacting how the therapy works for you.
so what is a peer support like an advocate that works closely with you?
or a group therapy where others that have lived through similar experiences share tips and support eachother?
idk therapy sucks i just wish it actually did something but it's just me talking about my issues and the therapist looking at me and being "oh I'm sorry" "that's valid" bla bla
or they always make it about me being trans for some reason which is not the relevant issue at all. I hate that they say the most obvious bullshit too as if i didn't already think about it.
I would like to know how to stop fucking up my relationships and my life.
therapy makes me feel awful everytime
mine is one on one, she's pretty based. group support/group therapy is what you're thinking of.
peer support is common for autists (like me) and other neurodivergent groups. it helps the patient do life shit. for example, helping with signing up for welfare or teaching life skills. oftentimes with big printed out guides. some will go into your house with you and you can do the session there, if you need help with cooking or something.
my situation i needed support with resolved but it's good that i remain a patient with her anyways in case something else pops up.
i'll ask them about peer support tomorrow. ty for the tip
You're welcome, it's not meant to be a replacement to therapy, but it can help improve your life a lot and add peace of mind.
The three pillars of Gender Affirming Care are
1. A qualified doctor
2. A qualified therapist
3. A peer support group
peer support is not a substitute for therapy, the effectiveness of either is limited without the availability of the other.
Can anyone explain to me what a therapist even gains from helping you? The whole system is built for you to stay in an infinite loop of feeling like shit and them giving surface level advice that obviously won't work so you keep coming and giving them money, why would they bother trying to help you if it means they make less money? If everyone is cured they lose their job, they're literally incentivized to keep you in the system, therapist's job is literally to keep you in a state or constant agony that's bad enough for you to pay them but not bad enough for you to kill yourself this is straight up a scam and everyone falls for it wake up sheeple
Therapists used to be kinda like life coaches but now they just jerk you off for 50 minutes
Idk most people become therapists because of good intentions. And if you’re good you’ll never have a shortage of patients
If they were just doing it to help people they would sign up for those therapy sessions paid by the government but the vast majority of them don't, because it doesn't pay enough, they care about money, and the best way to make money is keeping you in the system.
No, most of them aren't doing it because they have good intentions they're doing it because it's a piss easy job.
Therapists aren’t smart enough to be that cynical about it
I don't think you have to be an evil genius to think about this, it's honestly the most obvious thing you can think of lol, you really think they do years of school just to learn to say "wow i'm sorry that happened, maybe try this breathing exercise for a few weeks" ? No they definitely know a lot on how to fix (cis)people's brain but it's too much effort and would also literally cut a part of their paycheck so they have no reason to do it
therapists ruined my life by telling my parents to force me to repress till I was an adult
Fuck therapists, they should be forced to get a real job instead of profiting off of peoples misery
this is me to a t
is every therapist really just terrible at their job though because that seems likely
imagine rejecting a client. they arent like other people
i got a letter from dept of mental health and it does mention a peer support group so i will ask them tomorrow too and bring the paper.
the synchronicity that you said that today and i got this letter today is interesting so maybe i should check it out.
this
it's nice to have someone to talk to i guess but as my life got better i've needed it less...i have friends to talk to now