How do trans girls feel about Israel vs Palestine?
How do trans girls feel about Israel vs Palestine?
palestinians don’t exist
It is ok to yeet muslim kids.
I hate all middle eastern countries given their hostility to us and their tendency to push religion as law. Either way Israel is committing genocide against children and i’m not about to paint a strawman against all middle easterners as if there are no lgbt people from there. Our countries shouldnt be playing war games and funding genocide
I was going to make a sarcastic comment about how you're asking this on Anon Babble so what would you expect, but then it hit me that the racism of the average channer may in fact be balanced by their antisemitism, so there's a chance for an actual discussion to be held on that level.
death to the zionist entity :D
niggers and muslims aren’t people
they are monkeys
I'm not trans and I don't really understand the conflict. (will work on my history knowledge over the summer). However, I hate America and the state of Isreal is doing genocide in Palestine with American support.
I support Israel but ultimately I dont really care
Am I allowed to think Hamas is bad but also think what Israel is doing in the West Bank is bad but there's too much nuance to the situation for a Anon Babble post but that's my surface level opinion. I don't really understand what a "right to exist" is in terms of states and governments but I don't think the ~7 million people living there should be forced to leave or give up their citizenship or have their country stop existing.
This is Anon Babble though so I suspect everyone's just going to be really racist in your replies.
Go back
Israel is committing a genocide, and even though Palestine isn't perfect it should be supported to intergrate it into the democratic world order and end the genocide
the fingers that typed this are grubby and stained with the dust of a thousand slain cheetos
fuck israel. palestine will be free. BUT I hate how much muslims hate us. trannies and especially dykes will be at the frontlines protesting for Palestine only for muslims to want to kill us like.......? okay
I have a working brain unlike muzzies and jiggaboos.
I think colonizing occupied land is bad.
Not a fan of any Islamic country but as someone who is not a Jew or a Muslim and has no stake in either, Israel is clearly in the wrong and I don't understand how there's any debate about it? Jews just rolled up to Palestine, took their homes, land, instigated way, murdered their people and then proceed to treat them like animals for like 80 years. Hamas is a piece of shit organization and the shit they do is terrible, but at the end of the day this all started because of Jews wanting Israel to exist. You can only treat people like that for so long before they lash out in brutal ways. But at this point, its like an America situation. Even though we massacred the Native Americans and all that stuff, America is not going anywhere. At some point you just have to accept that and move on and either try to assimilate or leave. That's how I see Israel. What they did was terrible, and how they've treated those people is awful, but at the end of day Israel is not going anywhere. Palestinians just have to accept that and stop fantasizing about ending Israel, and Israel has to stop treating Palestinians like garbage. They will likely fight forever but at the very least, Palestine should just be left alone and Israel shouldn't be aloud to fuck with them anymore in any capacity.
I believe israel has a right to exist but I don't like the war crimes they've committed. I support israel though and hamas has repeatedly restarted the war during times of peace so I understand why measures have become so extreme
War is justified when against a foe that wants to wipe you out and has shown that will slaughter you. Just think for one moment, ANY nation on earth is justified taking actions when you have a terrorist group who goes out and targets civilians
Hamas has it as one of their core values that they plan to wipe out the Jews. It's insane to expect Israel to somehow make peace with that. As far as I am concerned they are Hitler-tier bad, only difference is that Hitler had the military power to carry out his plans.
It's also very hypocritical that there is an extreme focus on Israel when every country surrounding it is worse. Even after the Arabs launched the war to exterminate the Jews in 1948 the Israelis let the ones who promised not to wage war live in Israel, where they now make up 20% of the population and have the same rights as anybody else. You can't say the same for every Arab nation, who basically wholesale ethnically cleansed all their country of Jews.
Only reason leftists support palestine is because automatically they see the weaker side as the more justified side in every case, especially if they are the more brown one. They have no historical analysis. Just Palestine = oppressed brown, Israel = white colonizers
Even last week the leader of the PA in the west bank called on Hamas to release the hostages and called them sons of dogs, they know it is Hamas' fault and if they didn't rape/kill Jews none of this would have happened.
i think genocide is bad and also jews are bad but so are sandniggers
it's probably good for the world if a western power is destroyed so i take the side of the camel pussy lovers
behead all zionists
this is a huge misunderstanding of everything including the nakba. Jew's already lived in palestine making up 6% of the population despite facing frequent anti-semitic attacks and being forced to pay taxes for being jews. the british owned that land ad offered it to the jews, they started by purchasing the land legally from palestinians living there. when israeli land was about half its current size through this process a group of palestinians started attacking them, this wasn't the palestinian government though just a rogue antisemitic group so there response was completely over the top. They started dropping gas bombs and biological warfare to clear the areas then planted their border after this in response. Israel has continuously been throughout history try a peaceful route then decimate them any time they attack you with significantly more force
genociding muslims greatly benefits humanity - especially muslim children who would otherwise go on to breed more monkeys
More or less how I feel. I don't like it but it is what it is, I just think this attitude of state creation through violence is disastrous for us as a whole.
Israel bad.
Hamas bad.
Israel more bad right now.
hamas has repeatedly restarted the war during times of peace
hamas wouldn't exist if it weren't for the zionists
9/11 would've never happened if it weren't for the zionists
genocide is when you continuously offer them peace and they continuously terrorist attack you in response and then you fight back. look into israeli palestinian relations in 2014 until october 7th. they were granting them a lot of stuff and aid until hamas attacked
okay look into who broke all cease fires and peace deals since before hamas rose to power as well. hint: not israel
Jew's already lived in palestine making up 6% of the population
You're getting ahead of history. While its true the Jews were in Palestine at the time, they only started migrating back to Palestine when Zionism started catching steam as a movement. Before that, Palestinians were just living peacefully amongst themselves under the Ottoman empire. The Jews started migrating back to Palestine and started claiming the land for themselves. They took advantage of the situation with the British and the Balfour declaration to make that a reality. No matter how you look at it, the Jews were in the wrong. They took advantage of Palestinian's kindness who allowed them to live there and proceeded to take everything from them.
Jews just rolled up to Palestine, took their homes, land, instigated way, murdered their people and then proceed to treat them like animals for like 80 years
this literally didn't happen
arabs living in palestine were not forced out, they were allowed to stay and live in israel if they wanted. Israel is 20% arab because of all the arabs living in palestine at the time who just stayed and became israeli citizens.
Many palestinians left because israel's arab neighbors told them to leave because they were planning on destroying israel, and because many arabs didn't want to live in a jewish state.
But as it turns out after a civil war and a failed invasion from israel's arab neighbors, israel won and the arabs who left were obviously not allowed to return. Meanwhile the palestinians who stayed in israel from the start got the same rights as jews in israel, and their children still live in israel with full rights today.
but either way you're right that it doesn't matter. America isn't going anywhere and israel isn't going anywhere. Israel and palestine will continue to kill each other for forever if they won't stop breaking every peace treaty.
palestinians don’t exist
The earliest written record referring to Palestine as a geographical region is in the Histories of Herodotus in the 5th century BCE. Palestine is older than Jesus, who was a Palestinian Jew btw
the Jews in Palestine live in relative peace with Palestinians of other faiths until a bunch of oursiders decided to come in and steal their homes with American tax dollars
kindness
continuous attacks and taxation are not kindness
and no it's just verifiably true they already had jews there prior to that.
The genocide accusations just seem like hysterics
Destruction is normal in terms of war (see: Dresden). It is not a genocide. We aren't even seeing anywhere close to even Leningrad-level casualty counts (and almost no historian counts that as a genocide) They started the fucking war. JUST DON'T ATTACK and you won't be attacked be. Not sure why this concept is so hard to grasp.
Reality is that Arabs have had a hate boner against Jews since massacring them at Khaybar
Israel funded Hamas
Look inside
Israel let Qatar send money to Hamas
Wow, this is like some really retarded anti-semtic conspiracy. Why can't Arabs have some me self agency for what they do? Why is the onus on Israel for what Qatar does?
The people who lived there then have no relation to those there now who are colonizers from afar.
they legally purchased the land until the islamist attacked
It bothers me that middle eastern countries hate cis and trans women so much but despite this solo male travelers will say shit like “Pakistan was full of the most hospitable friendly people” . I want a foid troid and ally moid world ONLY
okay, well, you should read more propaganda and stop asking why Israelis have health care but Americans don't
Israel started stealing land before Hamas even existed. them they created Hamas to justify continuing the war. i did do my reading.
palestine was named as such by the romans, it's named after the philistines, an ancient enemy of the israelites. They named it that specifically to spite the jews.
palestine has never been its own nation or state, only ever a province of other nations. Technically you can be a palestinian in the same way you can be a west virginian or something, but there isn't any difference in people or culture between a palestinian arab and a jordinian arab, or egyptian arab. There was never a particular palestinian identity before modern israel.
actually, it's the tens of thousands of women and children i'm killing that are the colonizers
having total control of the borders of your enemy is normal
that's not a war. that's a prison. you are executing prisoners after letting them riot as a pretext. and don't tell me the Mossad didn't know about Oct 7 before it happened
nytimes.com
le stolen land
they legally purchased the land until they were attacked and it doesnt matter if hamas existed or not look which side broke all the cease fires and peace treaties prior to hamas like I said
This. The Jews went to Palestine for the sole purpose of stealing it to make Israel and they're surprised that Palestinians don't fucking like them.
the wall was built after they wouldnt stop suicide bombing fucking school buses dude
In fact Palestine didn't even exist. The west bank was controlled by Jordan (which is why is it called the west bank in the first placed, it is west of Jordan...) and Gaza by Egypt and they just gave up governing them because it was a hotbed of extremism. The idea of a Palestinian identity that wasn't just a part of Jordan was literally invented in the 60s
jews were second class citizens in the ottoman empire. There was plenty of antisemitism, and they wanted land for themselves because in the 30s jewish refugees from europe were turned away by other nations like america, and were forced to return to germany to be killed.
It's understandable that a small ethnic group facing thousands of years of oppression and genocide would want their own state to return to given that nobody else would take them in.
according to a bunch of bullshit, i can murder as many children as i want because i am a jew. now give me a billion dollars while i turn the entire middle east against you resulting in 9/11
you deserve to die as much as anyone has ever deserved death
which side broke all the cease fires and peace treaties
nbcnews.com
Israel did. Good point.
I guess then the rich Qataris who purchase Mansions in Paris with their oil money must be "stealing land" then as well, even though they bought them legally. Just like the Jews did
I wish they could both lose
I said prior to hamas existing also
why wont they let us keep hostages while giving back war criminals :(
literally in your own article the reason they started attacking again
omg they kill children!!1
yes, you're right. israel won't stop killing children
haaretz.com
Pro-Palestine
Anti-Israel
Anti-Hamas
Simple as that. It's one big shit show, especially with people thinking they're doing good by siding with a bunch of deceitful mudslime terrorists who will gladly use people as human meat shields.
Turn on your pager
according to my 1400 year old holy book written by an illiterate genocidal pedophile warlord I can just invade anyone else's country and take their land and build my temples on the ruins of their temples which means it's mine now! and if you don't like it or if you criticize me or draw a picture of my prophet I'll kill you and blame america or something
I want to rape, enslave and kill them all.
I don't really care about either but I just find it funny how people always say the Jews were shunned because people were just bigots that hated Jews for no reason whatsoever and none of it was justified, but the moment the Jews get any modicum of power and their own country, they go full evil. HMM, surely not a coincidence. I guess "Never again" from the holocaust didn't apply to themselves. HMM.
that's cool and all but you were complaining about the borders and the wall and I was telling you why, maybe palestinians should build a dome?
genocide is when you keep trying to let them exist in peace with you but they keep attacking. darn jews shouldnt have been suicide bombing german children
#JustTransGirlThings
Muslims hate Jews because a brave Jewish girl (Zaynab bint Al-Harith) poisoned Muhammad after he slaughtered her entire family
This is where the real source of this conflict began
a brave jewish trans girl fighting against the patriarchy*
fuck them, too, but that doesn't let you off the hook. Israel owned only about 5–7% of the land when it declared independence and claimed roughly half the territory. that is land theft. even your own historians know that. right now, Israel is stealing land from Syria. there is no limit to Israel's depravity. they bomb the shit out of Yemen via the US and th Saudis, who they're also aligned with.
stealing land
You know what they say: If you have problems with everyone you come across then they're not the problem, you're the problem.
Israel is stealing land from Syria
they've currently expanded military operations into the buffer zone after syrian attacks so they can defend themselves. they have not "taken new land" from syria
Right on SIS! Yesssssssssssss
If you have problems with everyone you come across then they're not the problem, you're the problem
are you trans?
we didnu nuffin those damned poles just stole our land for no raisin
If the Arabs just accepted the UN peace plan none of this would have happened.
I mean the entire situation can hardly be called “full evil”
I’d call it maybe like 3/10 evil. nazi germany was 5/10 evil for reference.
la Terreur was 7/10 evil and the battle of Changping was 9/10 evil
Things get more evil the further back you go, usually.
being a permanent minority means you'll permanently be the group blamed for issues simple as
>If you have ACKs with everyone you come across then they're not the ACK, you're the ACK
are you trans?
no
cnn.com
drops bombs and steals land in self-defence
kill yourself, zogbot
If you have problems with everyone you come across then they're not the problem, you're the problem.
I feel like everyone understands this intrinsically but when it comes to Jews, oh no, this can't possibly be true. They were just good boys who dindu nuffin!
steals land
again no land is permanently claimed
drops bombs in self defense
hey dude what the fuck do you think war is? what the fuck do you think syria did to israel?
Are you even trans? Is the reason trans people are hated because a. Trans are all groomer rapists or b. People are retarded
If not why TF are you on this board
TZD
I love how zionists are made up of: right wing antisemites, christcucks, ethnonationalist jewish ppl, islamophobes, racists, and drooling libtards who fall for the "but- but genocide is an antisemetic slur 0n0" idpol language
really the best people society has to offer.
What genocide is happening?
trannies will adopt whatever views their heeb surgeons and pill pescribing GPs have
no land is claimed
expands settlements time and time again
bbc.com
Syria attacked Israel back in '73 and was run by someone else back then. is that what you're talking about? also it doesn't look like self defence it looks like you're the enemy that murders children and steals money from the US via the Israel lobby. i hate you and Theresa literally nothing you can do to change my mind. you should 1000% be shot in the head you sick demon. your crimes are unforgivable. the only thing you could do now is give me the hundreds of billions.of dollars in aid back and go back to where you came from, whether that's Poland or Brooklyn
Trans people are hated because 99% of them are ugly and act weird/cringe/unlikable and yes, a lot of them are predators plus they have an obsession with trying to include children into the movement which automatically triggers people because being trans is seen as a sexual thing. Whether you think that's right or not doesn't matter, trans people simply misplayed their hand and flew to close to the sun and now they're getting burned for it. Frankly, justified.
What is a zionist?
you're
I'm a canadian transgender white girl we don't even send money to israel. stop being so schizo
exactly. everyone hates Israel from Lebanon to Yemen to Syria. yet elites from both political parties insist on shoving zionist propaganda down our throat and then jailing us if we disagree. there's no free speech until Israel isn't on the map
I love Israel, you don't speak for me.
white
yeah i see why you defend israel, now
go fuck yourself, ytboy
me too
Most trans people are incredibly unlikable so yeah, its definitely their fault lol.
ur white haha
great insult bro
i love child rape and murder! we set new records every day!!
I think genocide is bad
"Jews are minorities so that's why everyone hates them!!"
Meanwhile White people in Asian countries: living together with no issues.
Attention all terrorist apologists: have a peace offering. It's on me :)
name one asian country this is true that hasnt been colonized to shit by whites
Why is everybody riled up by that shit conflict?
muh meme-o-cide
Stfu nigger
Uh, China? Are you retarded? Also cute how you need to add qualifiers to it because you know it's fucking true.
i have gone back and forth on it over and over, swinging more to moderately pro-israel to moderately pro-palestine. literally have shifted positions like 20 different times and i still do
both sides are right and wrong in many ways
i think at this point it's fair to say israel is more in the wrong right now though. life is just too difficult and precarious for the average gazan civilian at the moment and while hamas deserves a ton of that blame, right now israel deserves even more of it
Chinese are NOT fine with white people there. Taiwan is, but again it's basically owned by the american military.
they bomb the shit out of Yemen via the US and th Saudis, who they're also aligned with.
the rest is bad but this one is justified. houthis absolutely need to be bombed into oblivion
Do you see the white people there causing wars? Pushing their religion on others that don't want it? Refusing to assimilate? Didn't think so. It's almost like White people understand to fucking behave themselves when they're guests in another fucking country.
I can tell you've never been to China, Chinese people love foreigners. What propaganda have you been reading?
when have jews done any of that in history
also yes white people do, they do it with christianity. literally caused so many wars doing this and still do it to this day. what the fuck do you think christiant missionaries are?
judaism is inherenntly exclusive they don't push it on you
I can tell you've never been to China
wrong
I mean the entire situation can hardly be called “full evil”
I’d call it maybe like 3/10 evil. nazi germany was 5/10 evil for reference.
la Terreur was 7/10 evil and the battle of Changping was 9/10 evil
this is a category mistake. you're comparing a country to a political campaign to a battle, and also harm caused to own citizens vs. others', and military personnel vs. civilians. executing all of the enemy soldiers after a battle is over isn't that shocking or evil, even if they die very painful and slow deaths. you know what you're getting into when you're a soldier. you might die a very painful and slow death through any number of means, by the enemy's intention or otherwise
if you instead change it to the worst overall acts done by particular governments, nazi germany is 9.5/10 (even worse than mongol empire). israel's attack on gaza since 2023 is probably a 6/10
Pushing their religion on others that don't want it? Refusing to assimilate?
wait, isn't the nazi claim that it's suspicious that jews don't try to push their religion and don't proselytize, and sneakily try to blend in and assimilate too dramatically to the point they aren't even distinguished?
(just kidding, i am of course aware of how fascists approach rhetoric and how they reason. fascists are a lower sub-species of hominid)
I'm an American who has traveled a lot and Chinese people are friendlier than the average European.
Zionism at its core means that Zionist Jews will NEVER assimilate in any Arab country, especially Palestine.
nuke them both
The Gaza death toll is basically overshadowed by random African wars
Fuck even an earthquake that happened in Turkey almost 2 years ago killed more people
It's not even close to the actions of some genocidal state. Its bog standard in the realm of warfare
the best tranny surgeons are almost exclusively asian doe
I generally don't really care what happens to brown people but I think it's a good opportunity to oppose je- erm I mean zionist imperialism
The mongols were by all accounts worse but that’s if you trust the Chinese to not embellish their history (I don’t really)
we do it because we believe in human rights for everyone. yes that includes the people that don't like us. its called empathy, a liberal trait dumbass
People say this and then firebomb their parent’s Tesla.