how do I find cisbian chasers?
dating apps or other places
t4t relationships are not doing me any good and I wanna try something new I guess
How do I find cisbian chasers?
try men <3
I will never be picrel
I would if I was into them, would probably make a lot of this stuff easier desu
date an ftm and wait until he detransitions
me neither I'm tall as fuck, that said my boobs are kinda nice so maybe I will but just not the side of it I'd prefer lol
cisbian chaser
Are you talking about a bisexual woman who wants a harmless male she can bully into masculinity and get PLAPPED from?
I'll admit I kinda just typed that instead of like ciswoman or something
I kinda don't really care about sexuality as long as they don't just hate me for being a tranny lol
what?
what if he doesn't though?
giwtwm
i want to be the fem and the cisbian chaser gets to be butch
do you pass?
real. cisbian chasers are hardly a thing atp but they will only chase passers. t4t is the only respite for many non passers
I'm a cis f (repper) and more of a poon chaser but would be fine with a tranny gf. But she would have to be a starfish perma bottom who doesn't mind never seeing her gf unclothed and understands she can't touch most of me desu
Starfish perma bottom... perfect
Your choices are pretty much either bisexual afabs that will see/treat you as basically just a feminine boyfriend (your gender identity WILL be weaponized against you in all arguments) or stone butch femreppers that will basically consider themselves to be in a st4t-lite relationship.
From my personal experience, I recommend you go with the stone butch femreppers. Best relationship I have ever had hands down. T also does wonderful things to afab bodies.
chasers mostly seek obviously trans women
fuckin' truth.
problem with butch femreppers is that they can be hot as fuck but often come with an asston of emotional baggage. I used to find butchness quite hot, but after dating a few of them I find that they are frequently quite emotionally immature and expect you to cater to their temper tantrums
Bisexual afabs can be a crazy good time, but most they tend to either a) treat you like a feminine bf or b) pretty much act like male chasers in that they will fetishise you (you WILL validate their drag queen fantasy) before ditching you for a cissoid
Funny thing is, none of these types can just date you without imposing their werid hangups around gender on you.
you can always go back to dating transbians, but good luck finding one that is halfway normal
would
I won't deny that butch femreppers tend to come with a bunch of emotional baggage. But if you know how that handle that stuff or simply have the right personality type, then it is not all that much of an issue.
Butchness is also hot as hell and I'm sick of pretending it's not.
I maintain that butch femrepper x mtf is the ideal relationship.
Bisexual afabs however are just emotional abuse factories.
Every time I hear others talk about the horrors of dating bisexual afabs I'm kinda glad it's a common experience for them to be abusive and it's not just all in my head, but also really sad those are pretty much the only cis women who will date us. I think I'm just gonna give up on relationships altogether
All fun and games until femrep gf poons out on you 6 years into the relationship.
I think most mtfs into women have horror stories about bisexual afabs. For whatever reason they are just impossibly abusive to mtfs.
I have never come across a single instance of one actually really respecting her trans gfs gender identity beyond just humoring it. Nightmare stuff.
This is why you need to have the right personality when it comes to dating butch femreppers. You need to be able to accommodate their dysphoria. It is absolutely not something that every mtf can handle. But for mtfs like myself it is the perfect relationship.
In an ideal situation you end up with a very masculine he/him lesbian gf.
I rejected a bisexual friend once and in retaliation she went around and spread rumors about me being her abusive stalker (after she told me she only talks behind men's backs and would never do so with a woman). It's like they're specifically engineered to psychologically terrorize trannies
not gonna lie, butch he/him lesbian gf does sound ideal, i just need to find one who... doesnt flip flop on their identity?
Like, the two I've dated did this thing where they would try and still be feminine and get cisstraight clout but really suck at it. The last one I dated really liked short hair and hated "looking like a girl" but then would try and grow their hair back and wear dresses around certain family members, so they would always looked awkward with this shaggy "needs a haircut" hair.
I broke up with them because they had anger issues and no aspirations in life outside of smoking weed and barely holding down a job. They are now dating a hon (like big bald in their 50s hon) and are still doing the same shit with the shaggy hair thing
Also, they now use the pet name I had for them as their everyday name and that just feels werid.
my opinion is that bisexual afabs are attracted to us because a lot of trans women are cute in an androgynous way and have low self-esteem enough to look past red flags, but the actual realities of dating someone who is basically a second class citizen with mental health problems is too much for them so it ends up with the old push n' pull
This one time I dated a crazy transbian, an abusive bisexual afab and an angry butch ftm repper in a row
All of them were really hot and the experience has destroyed me emotionally
Huh I wonder then if other minority (i.e. actually oppressed and not just "neutodivergent" or some shit) bi women would be better to trans women then? I've only ever interacted with middle class white bisexuals IRL because that's pretty much the only type of bisexual you meet in my country. Other minorities avoiding LGBT communities here might be a good sign too that they're not as retarded as them
idk maybe, its more the problem that we dont really "fit" many places, so people from other cultural backgrounds may have similar hesitations around dating troons, or they may just put you back into the "feminine boyfriend" box
based on some other threads, talk to women around your age x2
be me, cis m
hanging out with bi cis woman, just platonically
she starts flirting with this trans girl she spotted at the pub
I decide to leave them alone
one hour later my friend comes back tk me and says
"I've always wanted to make out with a tranny"
I laughed to hard but holy fucking shit
That is horrifying anon. I'm sorry you had to endure that.
There really should be a warning about mtfs dating afab bis.
butch he/him lesbian gf does sound ideal
It pretty much is ideal for me personally. I think it probably is the ideal relationship for a good chunk of mtfs.
I have at times considered making a fem-repper x mtf general. But I don't know if it would have enough of a following.
its me, Im the tranny
ive come to accept that all I will ever be for people is an experiment or fetish. Sometimes I will still hook up with someone at a club just to feel something, just so I get to feel less lonely.
This one time I went to a sex club naked and got a woman to kick the shit out of me, she dragged me around by my hair and punched me and kicked me. I almost felt like someone cared.
Often the people who want to hook up with you will say they want to see you again. Recently I had a woman tell me what street she lived on and begged to see me again. But its bullshit. they dont want to see you again. They will wake up the next day and maybe they feel embarrised or maybe its just the excitement wearing off but any future contact will likely be awkward and performed at a distance.
Cisbian here browsing this thread out of curiosity. I’m genuinely surprised that you people also think bi afab are too mentally ill for their own good. Not the bi women part bc they are worst. But I didn’t realize the troons had bad experiences with them.
not OP but I’d prefer that
I just wanna run a harem with my prime consort OK
Lesbians don't like dick, try other trannies or bisluts
Nah not really lol
This is not an issue at all if you exclusively bottom.
t.mtf that dates cisles
Perfect summary of cis f bi chasers.
eeeh I wouldnt say its all bi women. Some bi women I know are the chilliest people I know, but the thing is they are very self aware and understand the different dynamics of queer relationships and how easy it is for people to end up feeling used.
But there are also a lot of bi women who just sort of bumble into things looking for a good time or appearing not to really think about their partners needs. Pretty much every lesbian I know has a story about dating one of these types and being ruined by them. Part of the problem is the tendency to "centre men" in their lives and treat queer women as a sort of fun side quest
In my experience, the first type of bi woman is HIGHLY CRITICAL of the second type, and understands why people are upset
I've run into a bunch of problems with cis bi women who are very loud about being queer and leftist but who have a bunch of unexamined lizard brain cisheteronormative assumptions about how relationships, dating and sex work that amount to them assuming that them playing the "girl role" and anyone who dates them of any gender having to play the "boy role" is just how those things work. That's why those women end up almost always dating men, btw. Men are willing to do all the initiating and pursuing.
I don’t know how anyone could be with a stone-top. I can’t imagine not reciprocating or being able to touch my partner.
not to mention theres a certain subset of queer woman whose sexuality seems to be more about hating men than loving women...
As someone with a bunch of genital dysphoria, sex for me already comes with a bunch of limits and a need for constant communication. It is really not all that different for stone tops, so it was pretty easy for me to adjust to them. I would not go back honestly.
I will say however that just in my own experience, they do tend to be more flexible then what you may think when it comes to sex.
Stone butch femreppers X femme mtfs really are the ideal relationship.
Ive got a hookup like this actually, only tops, I dont think I've seen them fully naked, like ever. Afab but only gets off on using a stap or through impact play on others.
I was actaully a bit sweet on them. but despite being good friends and enjoying sex together they weren't keen.
I got the impression that they fetishised trans women, and as a post-op passoid i was a partcular fascination to them