One there I have noticed as a gay bottom on this board

It’s called /tttt/ for a reason…

well arent you the observant one. theres a reason people call it tttt anon

cuz it got invaded

no. that's called pregnancymaxxing and it's never done long term.
for reference, women cycle monthly between 50-400pg/ml,
trans women on injections, usually cycle weekly between 100-300

pregnancy levels goes from 1k first trimester up to 9k in some cases... (varies wildly but it's insanely ridiculously high)

It depends on the person and their dosage however pregnant cis women still have female hormone levels I don't know what you're trying to prove.
There is a difference between female and male brains that's proven. It's not a honscience.
No? This is the same as asking is being asian hobby.
Do your research.

Also this place is called /tttt/ for a reason. This place is full of trans women and other people who have any kind of gender issues lesbians, gays and bisexuals are also welcomed if they respect trans people. However if you don't then you better understand that this is a TRANS BOARD and has been for almost a decade. In that case you can leave.

If I need to do research as to why you are a woman, you are not a woman.

There is a difference between female and male brains that's proven. It's not a honscience.

Yes and transpeople have slight shifts to the gender they identify with in the averages of certain obscure features compared to the cis averages. Actually start reading the research papers instead of slurping down headlines.

delusion
kek yes this exactly

if i need to use my brain to understand something its not true

ur male

by some definitions. what about it?

trans women are a type of men

You dont understand
The trans brain is feminine and has feminine qualities that make it a female brain. Just like females who have masculine qualities are actually females with male brains because they have male qualities, but not the qualities of the feminine males, its specifically the qualities of masculine males because they have male brains, as opposed to men with feminine brains.
Its literally so simple anyone could understand it.

ur a delusional man

again, by some definitions, but bad ones. definitions of gender that are inclusive of trans people are much more sensible and better align with reality than whatever vibes-based definition you're using.

gender implies you act like a woman, and you don't, you act like a very autistic straight man

youre forgetting that the standard comes from you, you are part of the standard for where genders come from. Whatever you do or think or say or act, our standard for knowing anything is masculine or feminine is YOU. Youre doing it, that makes it masculine. Thats the reality youre talking about right?

lets deconstruct that.

acts like a woman

What do you mean? Like there are women who act that way and we have examples of women acting that way?
What if i was to show you an example of a man acting that way. Then it wouldnt be "acting like a woman" anymore would it? It would be "acting in some kind of way that our culture has decided is womanly."

gender implies you act like a woman

again, that is just one way of defining it

youre forgetting that the standard comes from you

i believe the 'standard' is neurological characteristics that lead us to associate with a given social group. in the case of trans people, as a result of a neurodevelopmental disorder this characteristic is inverted. everything else is irrelevant. it's very possible that trans women do act more like their cisgender natal male peers due to inherent differences apart from that characteristic in question, or that they do as a result of social conditioning. whatever the answer, it's ultimately not the fundamental piece that defines one's gender.

It's called /tttt/ for a reason

Those "associations with given social groups" are actively dissolving in our culture thats realizing that there is very little objectivity behind them anymore. Everyone is just a jelly pilot to a meat puppet. The idea that "youre X because you act Y" doesnt exist. And maybe there is some science to identity, but its psychological science, its fluid and not measureable. Especially not by some discrete scale between male and female or some other silly third gender. Its all just placebo.

Those "associations with given social groups" are actively dissolving in our culture thats realizing that there is very little objectivity behind them anymore.

extremely hyperbolic. trans people are not single-handedly making it impossible to decipher that there are two primary social groups primarily consisting of members of either sex.

And maybe there is some science to identity, but its psychological science, its fluid and not measurable.

yes and no. there is science behind the idea that being trans it not purely psychological. i'm not extremely versed, but there have been correlations found with certain genes, and studies comparing identical and fraternal twins have shown that in the former case you're vastly more likely to have both identify as transgender than you are if they're fraternal. that's not a smoking gun of course, it could be a matter of an especially close bond and the idea that 'well if my twin is trans then i probably am too', but it's not nothing by any means, especially, again, in comparison to fraternal twins. the contrast in the study i'm remembering was pretty stark.
beyond that, no, you probably can't ever 'measure' someone's gender, but we can rely on their subjective experience and sound diagnostic practice to determine if they're dysphoric. and if some people who aren't dysphoric get a diagnosis then like... that's their problem. it doesn't mean we should throw out the whole idea and fuck over all the people who do truly have this sort of differentiation.

despite 13

What do you mean?

my brain goes
THIS PERSON IS MALE
when I talk to you

Only passable post-op trans women should be considered women.

Gender change should be an standardized process, and such given to those who meet a proper criteria.

"Because my post-modernist onions-drinking therapist said so" is not enough.

Bottom surgery should be mandatory if you want to be considered a woman.

>Ensures they can't rape their inmates and women in the bathroom

>Raises the barrier to entry, which will reduce the number of fakers and undecided.

Makes sense. Womanhood is hard, must be earned.

I know it means mostly younger people will get to enjoy this privilege but that's a sacrifice I am willing to make.

Tbh as a passing post op woman who likes my vagina i don't think there is any moral argument that you can make into essentially coercing someone to go through the first 3 months of SRS recovery

btw i look like a woman

sure you do

there's no moral argument you can make for protecting cis women from being raped by people with penises sharing a prison and intimate spaces with them.

Really?

This
For this:

women being raped by women is a women issue

True, but at least when cis women rape other cis women the result isn't an unwanted pregnancy.

I had FFS 3 days ago dumb hon. Try not killing yourself on that revelation.

Your view of rape is very moid brained which i guess makes sense. Just because someone doesn't have a dick doesn't mean they can't sexually assault someone.

I personally think it's fairer to ya know treat people as individuals. Ban both tranny and cis rapists from women's prison sort of thing.

And again 3 months of suffering post op, then another 3-6 months to come back to normal? I would need this written into the constitution to even consider it seriously because you have no idea what you are asking from people.

at no point in the future will you ever look female

Whatever helps you sleep at night sir <3

Just because someone doesn't have a dick doesn't mean they can't sexually assault someone.

Yes, but at least when cis women rape other cis women the result isn't an unwanted pregnancy.

And again 3 months of suffering post op, then another 3-6 months to come back to normal?

No one said it will be easy. Being a woman by itself is hard. Being a female by itself is hard. You lot just want to walk in and enjoy the benefits without the pains cis women go/went through.

Those 6-9 months, I would argue are merely a fraction of what cis women go through throughout their lives.

If you truly believe you are a woman, then you should be willing to go through it.

I'm simply telling the truth which is devastating to the delusional fantasy you reside in.

Yes, but at least when cis women rape other cis women the result isn't an unwanted pregnancy.

Have to be shitposting. Trannies shoot blanks long before SRS even becomes an option for most.

There's more to being a woman than looks. Plenty of cis women don't look fully feminine. But at least they have vaginas. That's the essence of womanhood. It's a crude thought, I know, but it is what it is.

Well, then this guarantees they don't have a gun at all.

This would have hurt me 3 days ago desu. I love being a 5'6 post op, post ffs passoid ^^

Anyway go away smelly moid, whether of the Anon Babble variety or the bitterhon type. But your free to keep banging your head against the wall, the longer you are stuck shouting into the void towards me the less babytroons you have time to harass.

passoid

keep telling yourself that

I FUCKING LOVE BEING A PRETTY GIRL AWOOOOOOOOOOOOO <33

mostly gay men, some straights.*

straight men dont do drag

post-modernist

for future reference anon this instantly clocks you as a moron