For daddy blanchard xx

TL;DR: Meta-attraction is a lie. If you're straight after transitioning you were gay before, but in denial. You just saw women as a proxy for your attraction to men.

As follows my reasoning:

In Blanchardism, there are two distinct types of MtF transsexuals: AGPs and HSTS. AGPs are sexually and emotionally attracted to the idea of being a woman. HSTS are strictly homosexual even before transition and remain so. But what about repressed homosexuals who become transsexuals?

The power of the human brain, to trick itself into believing 'propaganda' is truly remarkable. So why should it not create paraphilia to feign an attraction to women, where instead of being attracted to the woman, which repressed homosexuals are not, they divert their attraction to the idea of being a woman (thus being able to be attracted to men). They 'use' the women as a proxy for being attracted to men

As autogynephilics commonly present later in life, the idea of being attracted to women may already be so deeply engrained in their belief systems, that they confuse their artificially (self-)created gynephilia for real attraction to women.

Now because there definitely are purely fetishistic transitioners, a further distinction needs to be made: If the initially gynephilic transsexual remains attracted to women in some sort even well into their transition, there is evident reason to label them as a purely fetishistic / true AGP.

However, if the transitioner becomes 'meta-attracted', i.e. purely androphilic during the course of their transition, there is no fundamental difference between her and an HSTS' attraction profile. They become a pseudogynephilic homosexual transsexual.

all i got from this is that i need an hsts girlfriend

why are you gay?

tldr no point, you are wrong. I was NEVER a fag

trans women are both gay and agp? more straight you as kid more agp.more you being a flaming faggot when you're a kid hsts.

how do you know that? how do you know you weren't traumatized at some point and your brain started conjuring up an attraction to women which it could only let go of once you transitioned? the memory might be repressed... our minds are scary things

Why do I get turned on by a woman forcing me to suck dick? Cishet btw

gay? for wanting a girlfriend?

Gay is far better than being straight being a subservient to a bitch

how about always super gay in terms of behaviour, but 'attracted' to women, yet not being able to date one long-term or have pleasant sex with one?

You secretly don't like women

I only developed it recently after 15 years of gooning 5 times a day

Not a real attraction we're all basically gay men who've always wanted to be women. All trans women

yeah that's what I'm saying, but there's different reasons... what I'm thinking is that a repressed homosexuals motivation for transition is more closely aligned with that of an archetypal HSTS (mainly access to straight males), than an AGP (being attracted to womenhood in some sense)

that's your mind begging you to come out as gay, transition and suck some straight dude dick. stop repping lol

HSTS do not transition to be attracted to straight men. We are gay men who want to be women. The ultimate gay fantasy is being a girl.

I don’t think that’s true. I was very vanilla originally.

Does anyone reckon Ray Blanchard has visited here before? Or at least reddit

Has Blanchard ever commented on reddit trannies all being gooners?

did you even read any of blanchards' papers and are you arguing along with the definitions he set?
bcuz that's his argument: hsts = gay, but attracted to straight men, not gay men
i also know a lot of gay people that don't want to be women (bears for example) so if you're fantasizing about being a girl, congrats you're agp

well now you're not anymore, instead you learned more about yourself - mainly that you like (fantasizing about) sucking dick- and that's perfectly fine. it's like 500x better than eating out a woman. The only question is do you want to suck gay man dick or straight man dick - if latter, I'm sorry you'll have to troon

I know better than than Blanchard because Blanchard is not a trans woman Came out Okay and sucked a lot of dicks but I always wanted the bitch in the relationship.
Blanch is only correct about hsts And he says they're attracted to men. Straight men want to be desired.

It doesn't matter a dick is a dick but if I had to choose I'd rather suck a gay man stick because I'd rather be in the company of other gay men even though I am hsts still a gay man who likes to have my own tits and a pussy and hates women

This doesn't even make sense? What would traumatize me such that liking girls would somehow be the solution? Also I don't know if I was ever even into girls. I probably just self inserted without realizing

fair point but why did you want to be the bitch in the relationship and why did you not want to be the bitch in a gay relationship?

well I can tell you what traumatized me enough:

be me, like eight or nine

go to christian summer camp

have first boy crush

cuddle up to him

get violently pushed out of his bed, hit my head on the floor

he goes to supervisor

they drag me out of the room

i cry, a lot

get put into other room

don't understand what happened, nobody explains

nobody cares

everybody thinks I'm weird

start pretending and gaslighting myself into liking girls

Oh honey! It makes me real horny think about being a bitch!
The lowest transqueen can do is kiss another woman's ass and be your boyfriend. It's the most humiliating thing a queen can do
T girls who bow down the bitches cunts are totally brainwacked controlled by their heads not feelings. Agps are just those who cannot feel themselves being homosexual and feel themselves being feminine and ignore their feelings and express it only in the sexual act of themselves feminizing themselves to be their ideal sissy self

Right here

go to christian summer camp

Agps are just those who cannot feel themselves being homosexual and feel themselves being feminine

ngl I kinda agree with you on this one haha

yeah I know it's fucked up - my parents just put me there to get rid of me for a few weeks

we're all basically gay men who've always wanted to be women. All trans women

the largest megaton truth nuclear weapon ever
EVER
launched

I'd say I'm meta attracted and I have the classical AGP symptoms
one unusual thing is that I really don't like vaginas on other people, but if I was AGP I should both like dicks and vaginas
maybe I'm like the rare breed of HSTS with transvestism

yeah I totally understand you - vaginas are weird

I can't get off to them in general
I don't like anything dirty or fluids and vaginas are precisely that

It's just a normal homosexual trans woman who is in denial of your emotions prepared we are all girls who like men

i called myself bi before trooning cuz for some reason my dumb teenage brain decided that i was gonna be bullied for being gay so if i claimed to be bi that wouldn’t happen. i have no idea y, 15yo me was cringe, but so was 16-18yo me that bitch had a theyfab era despite being a tranny

hot

hi i was a fag before i transed, and i still only like men .. what does that make me

closeted gay man
gender transition is a chemical closet for post modern gays

that seems a bit silly though.. like i was publically out well before i started hormones and was really harassed for that

There is certainly some truth to this. Alot of AGPs seem to repress the desire to date and get fucked by men. They seem attached to the idea of being straight men, despite also wanting to be women. From my interactions, the reason for this is because they feel like getting fucked by men makes them lesser and inferior and is "demeaning". Ofc, many of them also find that hot, yet they still can't escape the idea that they're supposed to be straight men.

men sexualizing other men is highly unacceptable as is men sexualizing their own bodies in public
woman is basically a way you get to decorate your body and express sexual interest in men that you can't otherwise