Is this gay man right about women?

is this gay man right about women?
if you want to pass you should stop enjoying sex

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He is correct. I like sex tho but no desire for it
t.cis girl

For the most part of the female population this is a perfectly accurate statement

haha yeah so true
women also don't orgasm, or experience sexual pleasure at all. Source? My personal experience of course

I talk to some “asexual” foid here that had romantic attraction and masturbated because “it’s like a chemical thing”
and I was just like… nigga that is the absolute base female stock sexuality

I don’t believe women understand what an orgasm is when they say they have them.
I don’t have any explanation for the fact that the female orgasm was supposedly so infrequent even during sexual liberation but now girls are saying they’re getting them 70% of the time all the time

women talk so much bullshit that it leads to misunderstandings like this. they should just be honest and say they're just as shallow as men and objectify just as much, and have their own equivalent of AAP (which is probably stronger).

Basically all the cis women I had relationships with wanted sex all the time and they would initiate it and insist on it even when I was too tired for it
So no, I don't believe that
And I'm not even that attractive
t. trans girl

They don’t though. Male sexuality is literally built for objectification while female sexuality is like she can eagerly fuck the ugliest bald guy if he makes her laugh.

If women actually enjoyed sex, at least as much as men anyway, they would be as promiscuous as men. Before you say social blah blah gender bias blah blah, its not the 50s anymore.

If women actually enjoyed sex, at least as much as men anyway, they would be as promiscuous as men

who's going to tell him?

I don't like sex either. It takes me long to come without thinking about my fetishes so I pretend to orgasm the same time my boyfriend finishes in me. Then I go back to masturbating. I know I have to quit eventually but it's hard. The fetishes began in childhood, they weren't influenced from porn, so I can't make them disappear. I'm only dating this man because I am lonely as fuck and want to feel the touch another human being. I want someone I can sleep with at night because I keep having nightmares. I don't care who it is. Really. One time I almost kissed a relative on the lips but was able to restrain myself because the action is so automatic to me now. What should I do anons? Am I cucked beyond belief?

cis f.

no women definitely objectify just as much, if not more, than men (they will sexually assault chad without batting an eye i have seen this). women are also drawn to power, like rich or famous men. this is a form of objectification, even if it's also just AGP. instead of admitting to this they lie and insult men as cover. in the right contexts though women are very openly absolute creeps.
i also fail to believe that a men doesn't find a woman sexier if she's funny or smart or something. that's just a normal part of sexuality.

Stephen fry is literally a walking Bincel stereotype

identified as straight most of his life

got old and fat, couldn’t pull chicks anymore

come out as “gay” only date twinks half his age

Why anyone takes him seriously I don’t know

I don’t think that’s the same type of objectification. That’s like saying slavers objectified slaves. It’s true but not in the way men objectify women.

Its cute you think women have anywhere close to the amount of sex that gay men have.

a-actually when I like sex it's wholesome chungus equality but when you like sex it's oppression objectification rape!

classic feminist cope

gay men are a small minority of men
the average woman has more sex than the average man

Im not a feminist. Ithink you’re just ascribing undue negative connotations to the term itself. I just think men/woman have different sexualities and think it’s retarded the nonsensical levels of coping from all sides trying to compare and contrast them. Apples and oranges

women DO engage in the exact same kind of objecification men stereotypically do under the right circumstances though, and when they are, they do it i can be much more severe because of this narrative that women can't (they've never been told it's bad). this is why women will sexually assault as a 'joke' and no one bats an eye.
i'm not saying the other expressions, such as in AGP, is the same TYPE of objectification as the above (what it is the same type as is AAP), just that it is objectification. all sexuality is inherently objectifying-- to turn into an object. i'm not exactly sure how you're using the term, but i imagine it's informed by its colloquial usage, as a way to denigrate male sexuality, and this is why you're using it in such a limited capacity and only applying it to men.

I think objectification is a reduction of a person into their parts visually for sexual gratification. I’m sure a sexologist could explain it better than me but you see the distinction In pornography really clearly. Women never go in for fetish captions gifs, preferring some meandering ao3 fic that provides the 8 foot Adonis’ full history and personality in detail before they goon to him.

I’ve never orgasmed from sex because penis in vagina sex does not stimulate my clitoris personally

However I orgasm every night when I rub my nub (clitoris) though

Why would women jerk off like how I’ve described (rubbing the nub) if they actually can’t orgasm? What would be the point then?

Also from what I’ve read from penis havers it seems there’s no difference between amab and afab orgasm in terms of pleasure, length, sensation, only difference is it seems more common for afabs such as myself to have low refractory period and can orgasm very quickly again after they’ve already came once

There no point in arguing about this on Anon Babble though because everybody here is fucked in the head and thinks amabs and afabs are different species

I refuse to believe this

The only time I ever made a woman orgasm using my penis it was a g spot orgasm. I find it much easier to get women off with other kinds of play.

I watched a show he was in and he said that he's never had buttsex his husband. he only does frotting/thigh stuff. which seems kind of crazy for a gay guy. also seems like it's crazy to say women don't enjoy sex when you've never had an anal orgasm

women enjoy sex as much as men if it's with a well hung chad. but their promiscuity is limited by supply.

this.
t. mtf repper

This..any male or tranny who claims that cis women don't orgasm is a loser.

If you put your dick into a cis pussy and make her orgasm, pussy will start to milk your dick on its own and it feels amazing 10/10 experience.

You date high test non feminine women, they have high sex drive

be cis gay

bully women for trying to have sex with men

story as old as time and kinda based desu
i like fry
good thing im a tranny and not a cis woman

Its the gay male jealousy of female beauty that tempts men

no its sincere loathing of what they are and their relation to men. a lot of gay guys find heterosexuality gross and stupid, like a romantic form of self harm.

Its projection. Self harm is being on constant antibiotics cause you have unprotected sex with strangers so often

this is fantasy on your part desu, sorry if youve got issues with gay people but some of us are former gay men so

Its not fantasy but reality. Gay men are evil

Explain size queens among female population or women with black fetish. I've seen woman who find out they are squirters and become huge sluts afterwards.

transbian?

op was talking about straight women, and this is probably more a comment on the sexual prowess of your average straight man.

Stephan Fry is a pretty smart guy, I feel like this click bait is taking some things out of context.

They were abused as child or a teen. This leads to hypersexual behavior as a cope

Like said they do objectify and yes they do in a bit of a different way, from my experience men objectify a lot more on the physical side whereas chicks objectify a lot more on the status and stability side, they view sex as a risk vs reward situation because let's be honest they used to have a definite risk, and although we have the pill and condom and other means to stop that from happening, that advertised 1% chance of pregnancy still fogs their mind.
Just look at what males and females look at during sex, you'll usually find males looking at genitals or symbols of attraction (upper body/lower body ratio for example) and women will look at symbols of status, I often found my partners looking at my piercings or tattoos for example during sex in such an obvious way that I could see them getting hornier because of that. It might be just my experience though and other women could be different of course but the first statement still holds up so far for me.

Like how described it, if you need to know the past of the person (and to some sort of checks and balances) to fuck them, then sexual attraction is a symptom of status and/or power, not physical attributes.

He is a smart guy but also a sex crazy bpd lunatic

Sex is always transactional with women. It's literally encoded into their biological DNA. He's right.

So then those cis woman do not pass according to stephen fry?

This thread is so retarded it makes me want to stick my head into a microwave. As usual, gay men and virgins consider themselves experts on women.

*according to OPs interpretation and deduction on what stephen fry said and extrapolated to trans women

You can end up pregnant and then you can die. Moid needs to be very special if he wishes to enter into a pussy, the home of femininity and beauty, the place of divine sexual pleasure

he's a gay man so that's a given

True

because you are all retarded and just disgussing the clickbait title instead of, you know, reading what he said:

"For good reason," he declares in a candid interview in the November issue of Attitude magazine. "If women liked sex as much as men, there would be straight cruising areas in the way there are gay cruising areas. Women would go and hang around in churchyards thinking: 'God, I've got to get my fucking rocks off', or they'd go to Hampstead Heath and meet strangers to shag behind a bush. It doesn't happen. Why? Because the only women you can have sex with like that wish to be paid for it."

Fry, 53, continues: "I feel sorry for straight men. The only reason women will have sex with them is that sex is the price they are willing to pay for a relationship with a man, which is what they want," he said. "Of course, a lot of women will deny this and say, 'Oh no, but I love sex, I love it!' But do they go around having it the way that gay men do?"

Its literally a reasonable point. Women don't go around having park sex. He's absolutely right that men on average have a higher sex drive than women. He's not shaming high sex women.

I think the only thing problematic about this statement is he's chalking it to to "sex drive" when a big influence on this can be environmental factors. Women being raised to be prudish, protective/restrictive of sex, raised to think promiscuity is immoral, or overly value purity/virginity. These are deeply Christian concepts, and Fry is a product of a Christian society. Why women seek out sex less is a Psychosexual question as much as biological one. Obviously there are high sex drive women and low sex drive men, there is nothing wrong that. But you can't deny, on average, women aren't persuing sex in the same way as men.

Also, this article is 14 years old. Since then there was been the Tinder revolution where we can see huge amounts of women engaging in hook up culture, further evidence of the large impact of social conditioning.

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