Being a 5'4 incel is harder than being a troon

Lmao

average asian american woman - 5'2

average african-american woman - 5'4

average hispanic-american woman - 5'3

avereage mexican american woman- 5'2

OP is at best the height of a black woman, even then he probably fudged it and it like 5'5 which is even worse, less of a troon chance and less of a man.

You summed it up well, its the worst thing to be a short male especially in Europe
At least Im white but that doesnt help me much anymore
Also Im specifically 164cm, got measured a month or two ago by doctors at a check up
Nobody cares about short guys, we are not taken seriously, nobody is sexually or romantically attracted to us, and its over before it even began
Theres so much trying someone can do until its proven nothing will ever work out
I dont have a pussy, I have a real penis

I'm 5'7 and a cis woman in Germany. You guys truly are retarded

zeig wurstfach holde maid

I'm a 5'5 34 year old virgin. I have lots of mental issues. I never leave the house out of fear of being in public and I don't talk to people out of fear as well. I just see myself as being unworthy and see no point in trying to make friends or dating. I've tried getting professional help so many times and spent time in psych hospitals but it didn't do shit

Nobody cares about short guys

This is a lie you've told yourself. Yeah, it's harder, I'm not denying that, but it is in no way fucking impossible. Hell, I'm friends with two short guys (one's 5'4", the other's 5'6") who have had long and happy relationships. Fuck, there are dudes in wheelchairs who still manage to find love. Get the fuck off of the internet, stop self sabotaging yourself with this pathetic ass "woe is me, nobody else could understand" bullshit, stop going on Anon Babble, and do something that will actually make you happy.

incel

I'm glad I don't want a gf. Dating as a man seems dumb
I wish I were a 5'4 woman
t. tall repper

See anon? Do you want to end up like this guy? You're still young, I presume. Your shortness won't ruin your life, but this irrational constant fear and self-hatred absolutely fucking will. Save yourself before it's too late.

I'd see you as a quasi-man and transvestigate you.

I dont want to get anal prolapse or STDs

so dont get sodomized? what, bro thinks he has to get fucked in the ass and pozzed if he takes estrogen

Honestly, the ladder is probably far more of a reason that you’re still a virgin than the former.

the ladder

kek

I dont want to end up like him, but I dont have a choice in the matter at all
Being short is the biggest detrimental factor to a mans life and you cant fight it
He didnt choose to be a mentally unwell loner, life made him that way due to constant societal rejections and mockery he endured, just like me
Those two guys dont disprove the fact that women love tall guys and would rather be with an abusive misogynistic chad than with a short and timid guy
Theres nothing for me to do, and no reason for me to do anything
Youre also not even allowed to approach and ask women out for a date or relationship (unless youre tall)
You cant approach them as friends, or as strangers, not at the store, hobby meetups, street, university, nowhere
All they love is height therefore none will love me and I dont really want my love life to just boil down to being a betabuxx for a dried up woman who went on the cock carousel in her 20s
Thats what trannies do though, since there isnt a pussy (the axe wound isnt a pussy) only the ass can be fucked

Wow dood...Heckin gender euphoria

t.5'8 femrepper

I dont have a pussy, I have a real penis

why would a guy with a peenor go on /tttt/?

Thats what trannies do though, since there isnt a pussy (the axe wound isnt a pussy) only the ass can be fucked

so you are going to immediatley jump from being a sexless incel to getting fucked in the ass by men just because you take cross sex horomones? you arent having sex now why do you think trooning out necessitates having sex, you can still be celibate, what will happen though if you get your horomone levels right is that your libido tanks to 0 and you will stop worrying about being an incel and having sex with cis women altogether, and at that point if you cant resist getting fucked in the ass by men with stds thats saying more about you than it is about transition in general, its likely that transition would just make you less stressed about your failiure as a male and you would stop worrying so much about being a complete looser, your not just going to have a wrecked asshole and aids from taking some hormone pills, ur just going to calm down and stop being insecure about how u cant get girls, high chance women will consider you more once your chemically castrated since they wont view you as a gross manlet but rather as a cute boygirltwinkthing

This is all stupid bullshit that you were taught by random millionaire grifters on the internet, or other people who fell for their bullshit. They want you to feel hopeless and deterministic, and you're a fucking retard for going along with it. Like I said, yeah, it's harder, but there are mother fucking BILLIONS of women in the world. You can find one that loves you. Women are people, with their own individual beliefs, preferences, standards, etc, not some hivemind council that has a set of exact rules. You can approach women whenever you fucking want to, the only thing stopping you is you. And yes, some of them will reject you, but you have to shrug it off and talk to the next one. Also, not being socially retarded is the main deciding factor in whether or not someone will immediately reject you, not your height. Normal people don't immediately go "Is this a compatible mate?" the moment they see someone.
Deprogram yourself from this internet bullshit and go fucking talk to people, or you WILL end up pathetic, alone, and depressed. You have time. I promise you that, anon. You have opportunity, and time, and that's something that plenty of people before you wished that they hadn't wasted.

This feels one of those threads where OP either wants male attention, being pinkpilled by a tranner or likes humiliation and isn't actually 5'4

Because the chicken crossed the road
No, I would never have gay buttsex, I said thats what trannies usually do
I was just complaining how Im short and I have it harder than you ever will
But no, you cant approach women
They will record you and call the cops on you (I saw this happen quite a few times) and laugh at you
Best shot you have is to become a court jester for a woman and pitybait jokes about your height for their friend group while they fuck chad
Normal people do react differently to people who look good vs not
The halo effect and the women are wonderful effect is real and proven by countless attempts and examples from people, just because you say it doesnt matter doesnt mean the majority of women dont prefer a tall chad and only "settle" with a manlet for his money and to raise chads kids

I was just complaining how Im short and I have it harder than you ever will

if you transition you will have a better time than me if you arent ugly as f, im 5'9" and i was a miserable incel before transition also, if you got on anti androgens for 3 months you would feel better, you literally are saying my life is easier than yours so why wouldnt you transition and activate easy mode

Because Im not a tranny and dont "feel like a woman" and I want my dick to stay functional

Because the chicken crossed the road

why is it so hard for you to give an explanation?

It just means there isnt a real reason, make your own conclusion

Because Im not a tranny and dont "feel like a woman" and I want my dick to stay functional

you dont have to be a tranny to take estrogen, also your dick will stay functional if you jerk off while on hrt, not that you have any use for it anyway since you get no pussy, im not recomending you transition so that you "become a woman" because you are obviously not one, im telling you that chemically castrating yourself through HRT is going to improve your wellbeing, it will improve your life significantly I guarantee that, you dont have to start wearing skirts and doing your makeup, im just telling you that spescifically the effects of having your testosterone significantly reduced will improve your mental wellbeing, you are a failiure as a man, in ancient times you would be captured as a slave and castrated in wartime, you should castrate yourself now chemically because that is your correct place in society, if we lived in a just system all males like you would be forcibly castrated, its not only better for your health and wellbeing, but also for the people around you and society as a whole, because they wont have to be subjected to living around a disgusting failed male faggot who copes about how transvestites have an easier life then him, this is why you should be on hrt, not to become a woman, but because you being a eunuch would be a significant improvement, over your current existence, you would be less disgusting to women as well and you would feel better and less sorry for yourself, lol

There is always a reason even if that person doesn't know it consciously

Piper wouldn't say any of this

Thats a lot of words to say that you want me to troon because I am a "failed male"
But what do I actually objectively gain from this shit when all youve said is just a lot of autogynephillic shit
Why should I trust you

autogynephillic

Failed male fantasies are actually MEF
AGP is more about wanting to be a woman for positive reasons

Bideltoid, biacromial, underbust, waist circumference, hip circumference?
Plz don't try to groom your superiors like this

Why should I trust you

because i was just like you and i wasted time trying to not be a failiure of a man when deep down you know you will never be one, you are a disgusting manlet and you repulse women, do them a favor and castrate yourself so you can spare them of your lechery.

all youve said is just a lot of autogynephillic shit

im not the one avatarfagging as an anime girl

what do I actually objectively gain from this shit

i told you, your mental health will significantly improve, you WILL be happier as a eunuch, its very simple. You are suffering now because your body is still producing a chemical that is telling your brain to FIGHT and try and reproduce, when you know logically you cannot succeed as a man, your body is basically torturing you by producing male sex horomone that you have no use for, disabling that function will put your mind at ease.

Plz don't try to groom your superiors like this

i could probably beat the fuck out of OP and rape his faggot asshole despite me being a troon

I dont know how to measure the first two but my underbust is 36, waist is 33 and hips are 39 (in inches)
Measured myself right now but Im unsure if I did it accurately
Same shit different name
Are there any studies and proofs that this wont just ruin my life even further
This also doesnt mean Im gonna do it, Im just asking out of reasoning
Also anime avatarfagging doesnt mean I want to be a tranny or female, I might just like how a character looks, this is an anime website after all

i could probably beat the fuck out of OP and rape his faggot asshole despite me being a troon

Of course you took it that way... You're just displaying your inferiority.

Dumb foid why can't you answer me why you post on the tranny board?

14, 10, 27.5, 22, 30
nta but I saw my chance to attention whore

I dont post on the tranny board usually
I only made this one thread here

Are there any studies and proofs that this wont just ruin my life even further

unfortunately no and its unlikely a study on taking failmales and seeing if castration improves their lives will every be produced for obvious reasons, im just speaking from personal experience, you remind me of myself before i transitioned and i just want to help you not be so miserable, i was very stubborn about it too and didnt transition early because i had the same attitudes as you, but you actually have it worse than I did, so i doubt your chances of leading a happy life are higher than mine were before transition, thats why I recomend not trooning out to you, but becoming a castrate, merely to relieve your suffering.

OK. I dont mind being inferior, but i am going to try and groom op because it is the right thing to do

Also anime avatarfagging doesnt mean I want to be a tranny or female, I might just like how a character looks, this is an anime website after all

also lol