C4t is an abomination

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C4t is an abomination

cissoids always see you as your agab. period. even if you overcome your brainworms, start passing, get srs, ffs, vfs and accept yourself as a woman, your girlfriend would always see you as a woman.

this is an inherent biological truth that applies to all cissoids. even if they haven't seen lion in their entire lives, monkeys instinctively know to fear and run away from them. in the same way, cis women insinctively see trans women as "men". just the knowledge that you were born as a male is enough for her to not see and accept you the way you desperately want.

t4t is the only way. tranners are the only ones who actually understand how life ruining dysphoria is and how we would all be so happy and at peace if we were just born in the body we were meant to have. it's not actual lesbianism obviously, we're not real women. but it's the best possible option.

*would always see you as a man

yeah it's either trannies or repping twinks/femboys but most of those turn into trannies too eventually

i used to think i'd be c4t pre-hrt but luckily hrt made me realize i'm asexual and that women aren't close to being the kind angels i idealized them as.

We see you as the gender you are, not the one you want to be

c4t is a nightmare 99% of the time.
The only real exception is when it comes to butch lesbians. They tend to actually really see you as your gender and are the only cis people who seem to actually 'get' being trans, in my experience anyway.
I honestly think that the only viable c4t relationship for mtfs is with butch women. Just about everything else will end in disaster.
t. c4t mtf that only dates butches.

You only hate cis men or "chasers". You would love it if it was cis women.

even cissoids who aren't openly mean like you fundementally fully agree with you

they don't see you as a woman. they might respect or even like you but they still see you as a man. i'm so sorry but we will never be lesbians. all of the hours spent yearning and fantasizing growing up were for naught.

I just see people as people

I don't know if you are just some doomer babytrans mtf or some chud looking to shit post.
But even just a short time spent in lesbian spaces would show you just how comically wrong that is. You need to try harder anon.

I'm not trying to be mean, I'm just being sincere. Really wanting something to be true doesn't make it true.

i'm 10 months on hrt so not babytrans

Actually similar experience, although I haven't been on hrt for long at all. I used to be like avg. horny ig, but now I have lost all interest in sex. And I went from bi (90% women leaning) to bi (90% men leaning). Maybe it's just like me being delusional tho, cause like I said not been on e for long enough for it to have any impact like that I think

Everyone draws the line at a different point. But sub 1 year on HRT you are still baby trans by almost any definition.
Assuming you are for real, the first ~18 months are known to have a bunch of low points. You just need to push through them as you adjust to your new identity and gain confidence in your social presentation; A positive self image takes a long time to build from scratch.
You sound like a baby trans that is doomering out. It is typical shit and always fucking annoying to deal with.

i'm only into tranners and cis women so i guess i'm debatably bi

afab afab AFAB AFAB AFAB XX ONLY WOMBYN BORN WOMBYN masc presenting dood

we need to commit tcd asap, even intersex ppl barely use agab terms literally only cissoids do this

i genuinely hate liberals so fucking much tyey see chains and want to reinforce them. agab is called out (rightfully) for being a traditionalist loose categorization to avoid cissoids needing to have head ouchies and these shitheads react by claiming its actually le good and progressive
rip and tear liberaloids guts, i yearn to drink theor blood like sweet wine

hrt is a meme and i started after bone fusion so i wont even get any hips unless pioglitazone and weight cycling saves me. hrt doe nothing but prevent further damage, just take a look at kirbizia.

durr noone sees me as a woman

some people just shouldn't be dating. there's a lot of people dating right now who feel like its some kind of necessary action for them when theyre already emotionally retarded. if you are still posting like this in 2025 and cant make peace with yourself, you probably shouldnt, considering youre emotionally a retard.

durr no matter how much you pass

if you pass girls will see you as a trans woman, not a man, not a woman, a trans woman, which is not the worst place to be in; some call it a good thing. if you dont pass youre someones gay boyfriend. men are hit or miss, and if your bf sees you as a woman, hes probably a bugman. t4t sucks because trans women are the most annoying most raped most mentally retarded category of person on earth, so its not worth anyones time ever. pooners r beautiful angels doebeit.

Please stop being such a stereotypical babytrans having some doomer phase.
You have brainworms about your body, are not yet used to your emotions, are panicking about HRT and have a very limited perspective on being trans/how others see trans people.
The reality is that HRT takes years to work and as long as your levels are good and you weight cycle, the vast majority of mtfs are able to pass in time. The bar to pass is much lower then what people on /tttt/ pretend it is.

as long as your levels are good and you weight cycle, the vast majority of mtfs are able to pass in time

HOLY COPE

dog this isnt even funny actually go outside
have you never seen a mildly athletic woman

t. poon

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my feet are like 3cm longer than the female average but i'm sure tons of cis women are like that hahahzahahha

file got corrupted, here's the fixed one:
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have you tried not being an agp transbian rapebeast freak and dating men like a normal woman would

the vast majority of mtfs are able to pass in time

not without surgery

i will date men once i start girlmoding as an asexual t4t transbian

based except the aesexual transbian t4t part, try being normal sweetie

i'm a man who chemically sterilized himself and sobs in the shower while cutting my legs. i will always be a freak, at least i could help another freak feel better and do my best to make her happy and content with life.

i'm a man who chemically sterilized himself

same, its great

sobs in the shower while cutting my legs

dont do that its retarded, stop being a fucking idiot

at least i could help another freak feel better

are you cute can i see

i'm super ugly and everyone says i look 40 despite being 20. right now i even have a shit ton of facial hair because i'm going through electrolysis and diathermy. but i can afford surgeries so if i'm super kind to myself i'm like a hairy disgusting pupa that might turn into a hon butterfly someday if i'm lucky.

unfortunate, its probably not as bad as you say, im somewhat curious to actually see what you look like, but idk, i hope you find peace somehow,

agab terminology was a mistake. Might as well go the full way and misgender someone than hide behind cutesy woke shit to mask transphobia

TRVKE
trannies are pathetic simps for women

!!! HON ALERT HON ALERT !!!

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oh this isnt that bad, you need forehead feminization though but most do, you have potential and have a better face shape than some of the creatures on here, how long on hrt are you in this picture

10 months

yeah you are going to fine, you should get your browbone done though 100% a brow lift and reconstruction would do alot to help you, it would make you look less like an angry caveman haha, whats your levels like, i think you are doing ok, you shouldnt even be worried about dating, how old are you again? 20? its gonna be fine, stop cutting yourself

i plan on getting a zygomatic reshaping / reduction to make my fhwr exactly 1,75 from 1,82 and get a thinoplasty, forehead contouring and chin and jaw reduction.

oh and also vfs and adam's apple reduction obviously

i used to have way too high e and 0 t but i lowered my dose. i'm diy'ing as that's the only way to get injections in sweden.

currently on 5mg estradiol enanthate every 10 days and 12,5mg cypro every day

i mean if you can afford all of that and really want it go ahead, you def would benefit from the forehead ALOT, i wanted jaw and chin too but my surgeon advised against it cause its "well within cis range", yours probably is too, not saying you shouldn't get it though, nosejob sure, zygomatic i guess in your case is appropriate

i was on a very similar regimene to you but with 10mg een every 10 not 5mg, cypro is good though, get an orchi, desu i think my E was also way too high for a while idk what the actual bad effects of that would be though

why are transbians always so ugly?

because were too cowardly to diy orchi as teens, instead we just cry

What makes you think other trannies don't also see you as your natal sex?

they understand what dysphoria actually is and what it does to us. the only tranners who don't believe trans women mentally are women are blanchtards and brainworm victims.

I don't think Toob subscribes to Blanchard but he also doesn't believe in dysphoria.

should've just stayed a man
only straight trannies are women

agamps and agps exist i'm not denying that. toob probably raped contra and is weird. btu criticizing transmedicalism is always okay, it's literally converstion therapy.

all trannies are fake women and the more you pass the more cissoids see you as a real women. but being seen as 100% a woman iby cissoids s impossible.

I actually think most trans people see each other as their birth sex.
I agree with the OP argument except I think it doesn't go far enough in stopping at cis people and saying they see trans people as their birth sex when really most everyone including trans people see other people that way.

super dysphorics like me are able to delude themselves. asexual srs t4t is the light.