I don't like being associated with the LGBT identity. If anything...

I don't like being associated with the LGBT identity. If anything, it feels like it "others" us more and has done nothing but enforce a stereotype of degenerate sex addicts and attention-seeking individuals.

I also don't like how it kind of smushes us all together, even though we're not really on parity with each other. Women, whether bisexual or lesbian, never have had discrimination or hostility on the same level as homo or bisexual men and being trans is a medical condition, not a sexual orientation. I wish the rainbow was still just a rainbow without any political connotation and I wish I didn't have a bunch of frankly retarded people that I'm forced to be associated with if I say I'm bi. I think I might also drop the "LGBTWN" term because it again feels like I'm just othering myself - I'm just a White Nationalist that happens to be bi. In all honesty, I think the LGBT movement is making us all collectively go backwards and is more about feeling special and grasping for victim points than creating genuine progress. IMO, the only way to genuine progress is for non-heterosexual people to represent themselves positively in the world and demonstrate our value without looking like degenerate caricatures, of which the LGBT scene is in no shortage of. To me, that's no so much a matter of appeasement, but common sense.

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sure the jewish takeover of lgbt identity/movement has sucked but idk what else im supposed to do like i cant just pretend things arent shit or that being quiet will make things better idk

Join the ladybois bandwagon.

What's your letter and what do you feel are the problems you face?

its complicated. and not sure if I want to get into it right now.

Well, if you decide you want to, you're welcome to as long as the thread is up.

Up if anyone wants to talk about it.

I'm just a White Nationalist that happens to be bi

BASED

I hate that I have to tell every single person "I am trans", I uploaded a picture to my instagram that is literally all the slurs they have called me and kinda implying that I am and I think that should be enough

And that was two fucking years ago and people still get surprised when they realize it.

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sounds good on paper but then you remember that the real world is filled with christniggers & mudshits and thats why basically this entire unity thing exists in the first place

Well the point is if you want the silent majority to accept you, you have to act better than the people that demonize you. Which shouldn't be hard in principle, but obviously it isn't always fair and it won't be. the progress gays have made since the stonewall days was primarily due to just being sane, normal, kind human beings and setting the example. They may not like what you do in bed, but if you're a good neighbor and you do your part for the community, your detractors sound crazier every day they persist. That's the point, swing the silent majority, and you can't really do that by force. Some marketing can work but if you're heavy handed it swings the other way again. Having ideological wars benefits no one except the rich, hence why it keeps happening. Bad actors across the board. All you can do as an individual is speak reason when you can and be good. Do more good than bad, and stick with it.

I'm not reading all of that. why do you faggots read slop like this??

GET A HOBBY MAYBE? Im a tranny, but I want to bully everyone on the Internet so bad.

See, like I said.
Bad actors everywhere.
Chuds literally take hours out of their day to do this, you can't snuff them out you just have to be better and point it out when you see it.

I'm not a chud, I'm just kinda tired of all this negativity everywhere I go. Im really frustrated with how depressing everything is, and I just want it to fucking stop.

I'm not doing well.

I hate that I have to tell every single person "I am trans"

Every single person...you just go grocery shopping and tell the cashier you're trans? Sorry to be facetious, but it must be more context dependent.

I uploaded a picture to my instagram that is literally all the slurs they have called me and kinda implying that I am and I think that should be enough

OK, but do you think the LGB applies to your experience? Because all of our situations are different and so are what people think about us.

That's true, but I think we have to ask: is this actually moving us forward or setting us back? What do you think?

I pretty much agree with all you said, except for the context of the ideological wars, which are unique in every situation. I think that since everything in life is transactional, people should understand that respect and acceptance are earned, even if you feel they shouldn't have to be. So much of the Pride scene has created a negative, theatrical image of us that it we're just moving backwards, now and people now see anything associated with it as either directly their enemy or in proximity to it and I understand why.

GET A HOBBY MAYBE?

I do have hobbies, anon.

Im a tranny

but I want to bully everyone on the Internet so bad

And I hope you're aware that you're fitting into the unhinged tranny stereotype that will ultimately continue to hold you down.

I don't like being associated with the LGBT identity. If anything, it feels like it "others" us more and has done nothing but enforce a stereotype of degenerate sex addicts and attention-seeking individuals.

no one cares straightoids will always see you as just another faggot no matter what you do

How? Ever since they started with the whole gender identity everyone started expecting me to "come out", like they immediately labeled me as whatever they wanted and treated me differently for that, why can't I just be?

Why do I need to match their exact idea of identity?

You are not X, Xs don't do that

Fucking hate that

The negative stereotype of the pride scene again is partially just entropy doing its thing and degrading what was once meaningful, as goals are reached having new clear and concise goals becomes less likely, things splinter, new variables are added, no system survives long term. And then add to that the corruption and it's inevitably going to fracture. Just do your part individually until it falls apart and is replaced or something else supplants it.

no one cares straightoids will always see you as just another faggot no matter what you do

Do you genuinely believe that? Because that level of reductionism is relatively rare in society.

What is the identity that you want to claim, for reference?

I agree, I think. We've reached a point of adequate acceptance in the West that in most contexts, a non-heterosexual doesn't have to fear for their physical wellbeing by just existing. Of course more work can be done, but at this point, we've reached the ceiling and all the moralizing and propaganda is just rubberbanding us backwards. I genuinely think that a sort of Balkanization is in order and that we should just handle our particular issues, specifically. Like I said, a lesbian or bisexual woman's experience isn't remotely the same as men's and trans people are a different thing for us all together. Asexual people are just people with low sex drives or some other kind of issue and that doesn't apply to us all, either. "Queer" is an absolute cancer of an "identity" and is self-inflicted otherism to the extreme.

*reached the ceiling that the LGBT movement allows

I don't want to claim anything, why do I need a label? If I went out of my way to compile their labels into a single picture was to make them understand that I don't subscribe to their ideology, call me whatever you want, but no, for some reason I need to pick one, guess one that describes me better would be trans, but then it's another layer of control, now I need to fulfill their expectations or I get even more specific labels, you can never win.

all lgbt is a single condition called sexual inversion.
lgbt - sexual inverts and their partners (and a few bored straight people)

I did not enjoy this. It was some of the most idiotic brainrot I've ever seen put to words.

So, are you implying that the LGBT identity is what's forcing these labels on you?

There is evidence that non-heterosexual people have more varied brain makeups and I do support the idea that we have more variety in out mindsets than heterosexuals, but I think viewing masculinity and femininity as absolutely differentiated identities with exclusive traits is erroneous and false. Inversion is reductionist and assumes some kind of hard dualism that doesn't really exist.

No, they came up with the idea, society demands that I need to pick a label and then fulfill all their expectations. And worst of all, they also put all the weight of the label on you, if any individual wearing that label acts wrong it becomes the duty of everyone else to carry their mistakes.

society demands that I need to pick a label and then fulfill all their expectations

Yes, that is how the human brain works. Hell, bi erasure exists because some people had trouble with grasping the concept of "both". People use labels to try and understand things and categorize them, for better or worse.

they also put all the weight of the label on you, if any individual wearing that label acts wrong it becomes the duty of everyone else to carry their mistakes.

Hence part of the reason I don't like the LGBT.

Anyway, you have me curious. How would you describe yourself in your own words?

I'm a person that expresses femininely, I feel more comfortable leaning to the female side, during my upbringing I suffered from hormonal imbalance which worsened my dysphoria, I am on a hormonal replacement therapy.

You do see how most people would classify you as a trans woman, though, right? You're on HRT to become more feminine, so it's logical for them to jump to that conclusion. Do you think there is actually a label that accurately describes you, such as "non-binary" or something?

u don't have a choice

So if they know, why do I need to tell them? Why do I need to make a spectacle out of my identity.

you don't have to tell them, and they will make a spectacle of you all on their own

Because that level of reductionism is relatively rare in society.

lmao

incredibly funny thing to say in a thread where the op is a full parragraph of reductionism

I do and I don't. I don't have a choice that people automatically me with it, but I do have a choice to not support it and try to distance myself from it as much as possible. The LGBT movement is more harmful than helpful at this point and that is because most LGBT people are more harmful than helpful at this point.

You don't, like the other anon said.

The LGBT movement is more harmful than helpful at this point and that is because most LGBT people are more harmful than helpful at this point.

Just remember this when your coworkers distance themselves from you when they find out that you are trans

It's extremely difficult to reduce people into simplistic terms except for in online discourse. I work with a stereotypical conservative woman and a stereotypical liberal woman and even they see each other as more than just labels. I might be racist, but I of course also see people as individuals. It's the people that actively seek to be the stereotypical caricature that will most be bound by the word itself.

How do you think I'm being reductionist? Overall, the LGBT movement isn't helping me as a bisexual man. It's actually hindering me and for multiple reasons.

or when you get beaten to death by some drunk guys

the LGBT movement isn't helping me as a bisexual man

you used to go to prision for saying this you fucking retard

I'm not trans.

you can maybe go under the radar then. just pretend to be straight in public and lie when questioned.

you used to go to prision for saying this

I'm aware and that is why I specified in an earlier post "at this point", so you should actually read what I'm saying instead of insulting my intelligence. I think the Stonewall Riots were fully justified, as well as other usages of force to assert ourselves. That to me is respectable activism. It shatters the notion that we are fragile, effeminate people who are to be dominated and abused. Modern LGBT does the opposite, painting us as theatrical victims and stereotypical "faggots". Worse, its most ardent supporters do stupid shit like making an entire month out of it and trying to systematically promote it to heterosexuals who would otherwise just mind their own business.

I live in the modern West, specifically the US. I don't have to lie. I work as a burger flipper in a kitchen where half the crew are convicted felon POC's raised in traditional environments and they all know I'm bi because I don't hide it and they still respect the fact that I work hard and contribute. When I talk to other WN's online, I don't hide the fact that I'm bi. I openly admit it and address any and all hostility as it comes, which has been more productive than not in the majority of circumstances. I even want to move to Hungary and I will still be open about it, even if it's a little more frowned upon than here in the States. We've reached a point where there is more tolerance for non-heterosexuals than probably any point in history. We can carry that even further, but I don't think the LGBT movement is capable of that progress. As another poster said, the best elements of it have run their course and it is now collectively in decline because the quality of human beings as a whole is in decline.