AGP proves you're a real woman

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AGP proves you're a real woman

It's long been said that AGP is just cis-woman sexuality. But why is that? Why would this relationship be there which isn't so for men? Well, I think the answer to this is pretty simple.

It's the patriarchy. The patriarchy establishes men as the possessing class and the women as the possessed class. This naturally is going to lead to a relationship where women naturally see themselves as belonging to someone else while men won't. AGP in essence is observing yourself through the eyes of someone else and then becoming aroused at the idea of the reaction you'd have on them. It's an attraction to being attractive.

Therefore, if someone is AGP, that means they subconsciously have aligned themselves with women throughout their lives. This is the role they occupy in their mental space. If you do not have AGP, however, you are instead subconsciously a man. You view yourself as the possessor, and are therefore only attracted to others and do not particularly care about your own body in relation to attraction.

And yes this means AAP in pooners means they're women as well.

AGP is just cis-woman sexuality

It definitively is not, per the CEO of AGP:
youtube.com/watch?v=WLN38t_eOjk&t=1400s

"Cis women are AGP too" might be the most stupid copium i have ever seen

reminder that agps and transbians aren’t human:3

agp is when he puts it in your put the gay way not the straight way. unless its gay sex because thats the opposite of agp.

patriarchy isn't real and cis women often experience agp but that doesn't mean every guy who jerks off in men's clothes is actually a woman
blanchard categorically denies female agp by using a hard definition of agp being "aroused by the simple thought of being a woman". And it's true that cis women probably don't experience that, but cis women definitely do engage in the same patterns of autosexual behavior and autosexual attraction to the manifested female sex behavior and gender roles. Blanchard of course is being intellectually dishonest as usual, he alternates between claiming that agp is purely to do with the thought itself of being a woman and definitely isn't also to do with the thought of being feminine, being attractive, wearing sexy clothing, etc., but if a tranny told him that she got turned on by wearing heels he'd call that agp right away. Blanchard also generalizes agp beyond the definition and claims that any tranny who isn't hsts is agp, and if you aren't purely 100% androphilic that you're agp regardless of what you're aroused by, or that they all must be aroused by that. Blanchard is silly and old and the way he talks about studies that he disagrees with in that clip comes across as dismissive and patronizing, as if blanchard personally owns the idea of agp and everyone else is stupid for questioning him.

Blanchard's wrong.

The vast majority of the "paraphilic" aspects of AGP are things that you routinely see in cis bi and straight women in the kink scene, but they're pathologized in trans women.

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further proves my point because women are also generally seen as subhuman, you subconsciously view AGPs as closer to women.

I'm going to repeatedly use this word made up by a guy I completely disagree with.

Imagine if instead of just not believing in God, atheists instead went around talking about how much they love prayer except they disagree that prayer means making a request to God and instead they argue prayer is the same thing as defecation.
That's basically what's happening here right now by analogy.

>I'm going to repeatedly use this word made up by a guy I completely disagree with.

blanchard made up the word autogynephilia to describe something that has existed for probably all of human history
he doesn't own the idea of agp, and he doesn't get to retroactively add stipulations to the definition

this is retarded on so many levels. it doesn't matter who made it up when it's getting tossed around in serious medical circles as one of the two categories of tranny. if that's how we are defined then it's actually our responsibility to speak loudly over blanchard and say when he is wrong. maybe at one point he was the leading expert on interviewing transsexuals but his opinions are no longer even relevant and get less so as he continues to refuse to adapt to new information.

What "new information"?

Sometimes I consider detransition because I keep self inserting into yaoi
Before HRT I wasn't into men
But now I can't stop thinking about them
It sends weird surges through my body

Is this AGP or am I just a retard faggot?

everything is pathologised in trans women, or whoever is disliked by normies

The vast majority of the "paraphilic" aspects of AGP are things that you routinely see in cis bi and straight women

Things I get aroused from and cis women don't:

wearing female underwear

wearing female clothes, it is not limited to sexy ones

being considered or seen as a woman by someone else (like referred to with she/her pronouns)

(imagining) having female body and body parts like breasts

seeing a woman in the mirror

AGP isn't just being a woman in a sexual situation. Being a woman in any context is sexual for AGP.

agp is a cis male condition, it has nothing to do with mtfs

desire to be a woman has nothing to do with people who decide to live as women

Spend any time in kink communities and you'll see plenty of cis women eroticising parallel things. To the point of some cis women approximating sissy fetishists in their confounding of femininity and playing a highly submissive, objectified, desired role in sex. Tons of kinky CIS women would fit meta attraction as well.

I am not saying cis women never eroticize femininity or being submissive or objectified. I am saying they do not eroticize just their existence as a woman outside any sexual context, while I do.

Being a woman in any context is sexual for AGP.

That only happens when repping (because novelty and excitement and testosterone and shit) and goes away when you start taking e.

I can say i really want to be super attractive one gender or another but im 5’10 and a mutt with babyface, small jaw, poor facial hair. I also am very submissive as in ive only asked 2 girls out in my life and it was in 8th grade and freshman because society teaches men to not be “creeps” and give women the i k so if you get rejected its embarrassing and socially damaging esp with internet if she talks about you. So men just have it so fucking bad man. Safer to wait for a girl to approach you but you have to be attractive and even then it rarely happens.

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It's the patriarchy. The patriarchy establishes men as the possessing class and the women as the possessed class. This naturally is going to lead to a relationship where women naturally see themselves as belonging to someone else while men won't. AGP in essence is observing yourself through the eyes of someone else and then becoming aroused at the idea of the reaction you'd have on them. It's an attraction to being attractive.

Meta attracted AGP yes. Womanhood is always womanhood under patriarchy, the abolition of patriarchy means the abolition of women as the reproductive laboring class.

And yes this means AAP in pooners means they're women as well.

Nah, auto-philia is just a basic function of the libido.

We live in a matriarchy and reality demonstrates that.

agpcope

Why would it stop when not repping?

We live in a matriarchy

wake me up from my grave when that happens, I'll become the first tourist of a country like that

women are also generally seen as subhuman

that's what blancharianism is.

So you're saying that blanchtardism is a religious belief and not a scientific (and therefore contestable) idea? Interesting!

Because people often fetishize their repressed desires as a cope. Blanchard himself noted that a lot of the "AGP" trans women he studied became much less AGP as they transitioned.

sex pests stopped being sex pests after they were chemically castrated

Gee.

Must be some fetish for them to get themselves chemically castrated and have much happier lives as a result. I know I enjoy gratifying my sexual fetishes by nuking my sex drive from orbit.

not sure about AGP but E made me way less horny. I really wanted this effect before I started.

What else have you experienced?

in sexual way or in general?

Both

decreased libido, orgasms feel different, transparent cum after first week, it's harder to get horny
breasts grow started in first month
more sensitive to temperature changes
acne almost gone
soft skin everywhere, especially butt and back
skin face and hands are getting shinny
BO is sweeter and almost doesn't stink
more hiccups than usual. almost daily problem. at least can fix it with glass of water.
food tastes differently. I eat the same stuff as usual. Can better tolerate sugar.
face looks a bit younger.
a bit increased appetite. I'm 17 BMI so it's good thing.

t. 3 months on HRT

acne almost gone

Fuck, I still get some at nearly 30 years old, does it really help?

does HRT help with acne? yes. But it should not be your main reason to start it.

I have out of control libido and AGP drives me insane sometimes

Are you suffering from dysphoria? Do you experience non-sexual AGP? What do you think (and feel) about living life as a woman?

If dysphoria is strong dislike of being a man and wishing you were a woman all the time, then yes.