Why are de-transitioners like Keira Bell apparently linked to anti-abortion activists? What did the detrans industry mean by this?
Why are de-transitioners like Keira Bell apparently linked to anti-abortion activists...
honestly hope they go after abortion rights at this point as a fuck you for how feminists treated us.
I can tell you never actually talked to the sort of feminist who's into prochoice activism then. TERFs are barely involved with actual feminist activism, as a rule of thumb.
detrans industry
Does a non industry usually list its right wing sponsorships at the bottom of its events?
The only time I've heard it brought up was as a way to invalidate us and call us men.
Brought up how? You mean them bringing up abortion? There are kinds of people doing work on this and all kinds of feminist work you may not have noticed simply because it doesn't become a massive news story or social media freakout. Planned Parenthood literally started giving out informed-consent HRT to trans people, I don't know what more of a symbol for said alliance making you could ask for.
Uk is different feminists here are pretty open about there hatred towards us
Even in the UK I know that's not totally true, I remember seeing groups like Sisters Uncut and old guard feminists and Sandi Toskvig advocating for trans people.
They want to harm all women's bodily autonomy, not just trans women. Transphobia is about controlling women.
Pro-choice feminism is actually good, its barely even "feminism" because its nor organised around "woman" as an identity category, its organised around bodily autonomy and reproductive freedom. They're not out to ban trannies or porn, they're out to make sure women can access abortions and reproductive care. Unfortunately the whole thing got hijacked by identity politics.
Abortion is murder and its targeted at minorities like the coloured and disabled, including queers, making it also de facto eugenics.
Based, just based.
There is no pro trans feminism. It's an afab supremacy cult all the way down.
The comparison here conflates deeply personal, complex choices with violence, which risks shutting down dialogue we urgently need. Let’s clarify: equating abortion to murder ignores both science—which distinguishes a fetus from a born person—and the reality that those seeking abortions often do so to protect existing families they’re striving to care for. Suggesting it targets marginalized communities misunderstands history: systemic underfunding of healthcare, not abortion access, disproportionately harms minorities. Many disability advocates reject weaponizing their community to restrict choices, emphasizing instead support for living disabled individuals.
As for “feminist logic,” bodily autonomy isn’t about memory but consent. Rape involves violating it; abortion upholds it. These aren’t equivalent—and conflating them disrespects survivors.
This country was founded on principles of freedom and fairness, values we share. Our military defends those freedoms, including the right to wrestle with hard choices privately. Let’s focus on solutions that lift all families: better healthcare, childcare, and community support. When we ground debates in compassion—not accusation—we honor the sanctity of life and liberty.
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why is your estradiol prescription linked to George Soros?
It's actually not and you made that up. Fucking retard lol
the detrans movement is just a larp by the british terf movement that exists purely to provide convenient sockpuppet "ex-trans" figureheads to spew anti-trans talking points from what would seem to be an educated and highly personal standpoint. there's a couple levels of irony to that though: for one, most of the "detransitioners" didn't ever take any meaningful steps towards transitioning, and have just as much relevant life experience being trans compared to the average cissoid; two, the terf movement got so caught up in their rabid transphobia that they slowly capitulated to right-wing anti-trans (usually explicitly christian) groups, who subsumed them into their broader christofascist network while excising any true feminist theory, which is just as naughty to christian sensibilities.
the terf movement made a deal with the devil, selling out their soul to (primarily american) christian conservative action groups out of pure tranny hatred. the detrans movement is a rotting corpse puppeteered by another rotting corpse, itself controlled by christian conservative activist interests. it doesn't take much inspecting to find the maggots of reactionary social conservatism over the bodies
well, im just happy it exists
It doesn't originate from British TERFs, they just resurrected it. You might be surprised to hear this, but it actually originates from when Anita Bryant was campaigning against gay people in the 1970s, she had both "ex-gay" and "ex-trans" people with her. E.g.
mdpi.com
"Perry Desmond, who attended that conference, is the first “ex-transsexual” associated with EXODUS (Desmond 1978; Hartzell 2015) and is regarded as “an early pioneer” in the movement (Boone 2012). He evangelized throughout the US in 1976, supporting Anita Bryant’s “Save Our Children” campaign (Desmond 1978) and delivering his testimonial (Johnson 1976), which he also gave at an early EXODUS conference (Hartzell 2015). By 1996, 27 of the 81 US Exodus referral ministries and all 4 Exodus ministries in Canada served “transsexuals” and “transvestites” (Exodus International North America 1996)."
well, im just happy it exists
The American religious right is more likely to listen to detransitioners than TRA leftoids, and are therefore able to capture and use them as vehicles to push their own regressive agendas.
this is all true, yeah. i meant the detrans movement in its current incarnation, headed by inane grifters like that one zio bowtie lady or chloe cole (who admits to still being dysphoric, last i checked). it's defo pretty interesting seeing the ideological roots of all this anti-trans panic, as we weren't really salient or empowered (legally or medically) enough as a group to be a major target until recently - still, the patterns of the rallies against us directly echo rhetoric used in the reagan-bush-clinton era against gays (spearheaded by the same groups!) and more ideologically trace back to every major civil rights opposition since the civil war
Could you explain why I should listen to this person? They are just self hating and trying to make me hate my most authentic self too.
should listen to this person?
No. Daisy went from a TRA to a christfag. She's straight up retarded.
you can easily link the two. My point was everyone is a single degree of separation because of international finance and the global connectivity of the internet. Basing slander on that alone is disgusting
christfag
So basically alll detroonies, some try to hide it
There are zero degrees of separation between the detrans industry and the anti-abortion movement.
Furthermore, why would my estrogen being linked to Soros be such a problem as being linked to the anti-abortion movement? I don't give one literal fuck about that, unlike anti-abortion ideology.
i can see you’re in bad faith arguing with invisible people again. Carry on.
Was that supposed to be a rebuttal? Need some meds?
All cope and empty "science is my religion" half truths. The image is not meant to justify rape, but to highlight the hypocrisy of abortion in the face of it.
we honor the sanctity of life and liberty
Only for lives and liberties you personally value, Mr "cool and rational science". If it's a child you're fine with killing them and removing their liberty in the process. There's no way to scientifically validate your feefees that the world is anything aside from atoms and gravity. You've created a feeble narrative out of your perceptions that is no greater than a bigots.
basically all detroonies
I wouldn't necessarily say it's ALL of them, but the ones propped up by PragerU and Daily Wire are retarded Christian zealots. Pic rel, Daisy Chadra, is especially dumb because she went from "le Spritely wide-eyed trans boy" to "grouchy catholic woman" at the flip of a hat. Her "story" presents being an athiest Tumblr TRA and a Facebook christfag as being pure opposites of each other, pretending as though an individual can't be detrans AND an athiest with left-leaning politics. I have my own sympathies for detrans people, but I feel nothing but disdain for people like Chadra who continue sucking the Prager cock.
Your passion for protecting life is commendable—we share that value. But conflating abortion with killing children ignores medical reality: laws recognize a fetus isn’t legally equivalent to a born person, just as we distinguish between a heartbeat and a conscious life. To honor both life and liberty, we must address why women face impossible choices: lack of healthcare, childcare, or support. Many who oppose abortion also fight cuts to safety nets—that’s where common ground grows.
Science isn’t dogma; it’s a tool to navigate complexity. If we reduce morality to atoms, we erase purpose, family, and the very ideals our Founders fought for—like privacy to make agonizing decisions without government intrusion. Dismissing opposing views as “fee-fees” risks mirroring the intolerance we all condemn.
Let’s unite around solutions that ensure every child is cherished, not weaponize pain to divide. The military I serve alongside defends freedoms so we can build a country where no mother feels abandonment is her only choice. That’s a sanctity worth fighting for—together.
muh laws
You view this as sound justice, I view this as when the law used to state blacks, natives, women, mexicans, and the irish also weren't people.
the military I serve
Oh god nvm it's an IDF simping zigger. No wonder you have such a thirst for ending brown children's lives. You should really put that up front on your pronoun pin so sane people don't accidentally take you seriously for a post or two.
ban conservatism and religion from politics and public policy
Maybe where you are absolutely not in England. They're happy to ban abortion here
the terf movement made a deal with the devil
They knew exactly what they were doing. They are insane, full of barely controlled hatred. They know they're harming cis women, they couldn't give 1% of a fuck.
The EHRC new guidance says if businesses mistake a cis women for trans, and eject her from the premises, the cis woman has no legal recourse.
Daily Reminder Kiera Bell lost her court case but the British establishment said ok we will just pretend she won, and banned youth transition anyway
Because transphobes and anti-abortion activists want the same thing, the removal of bodily autonomy and the demonisation of the medical industry. As for Bell, she's an easily influenced idiot who continually gets radicalised by the latest thing she read on the internet. She became an anti-vaxxer racist.
But generally, the reason so many detranners end up as anti-abortion and vaccines is because it's the same cause, they oppose bodily autonomy for trans people and distrust the medical system because of trans people and so expanding their target is the next natural step, add to that that they end up in the grift pipeline and are often paid by right wing orgs to spread their anti-trans message and do events, eventually they realise they could get more of that money by advocating for more of their causes.
TLDR because they're evil.
She didn't just lose, the entire case got thrown out, including all the evidence for her position because they found the "experts" testimony was baseless and they were not actually experts in the field. She more than lost and the establishment just kept going anyway. The game is so rigged.
We're fucked. They arrested a girl in America for using the women's toilets they're gonna do the same here
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You sound like a politician. I think you used AI to write the bulk of this.
I'm not like that. I think the majority of detransitioners aren't either.
today a trans person woke up and said
us trans people really are having a rough time these days. It seems like a lot of people violently hate us…
but do they violently hate us enough?
Oh i know let’s take a stance on abortion
what causes this kind of masochistic self-destruction ?