why do pooners stop taking T? like not detrans, they just stop taking it. why? you never hear of mtfs just quitting estrogen.
Why do pooners stop taking T? like not detrans, they just stop taking it. why...
they start losing female privilege if they masculinize too far and realize how shitty life is as a weird tiny manlet
lmfao
The people i know of who stopped stopped after 5 years or more, for them it was because they could pass without T and save some money. That and some of them had heart diseases (spiro is used for heart failure , for reference, so lowering T is also done on cis men)
testosterone is objectively very unhealthly, this is why men in general are at a much higher risk for heart disease, etc. if you already have a hysterectomy and you have gotten all/most of the changes you want from T, stopping isn't a terrible idea.
Having no sex hormones is not very healthy for bones and such
shitstosterone just causes random issues with your body
yup
probably more healthy than having the heart disease hormone in your body. i'm not a doctor though.
This is correct. Most ftms I know got hystos and live without hormones. Most changes are permanent as well.
the whole point of that post was that the doctors were making shit up
it makes you go bald
Past a certain point (and that point is VERY person dependent) all T does is make you ugly as fuck, age worse, and have shit skin.
This unironically
I've been hrt for almost 7 years but don't need to consistently take it because I already have all desired changes.
this is actually kinda disastrous for aging
sex hormones play a vital role in cognitive health, and women's higher rates of dementia are associated to menopuase (E and prog stop, but men keep making T at a low level and it helps their brains).
if ftms are going eunuchmode en masse in my generation, we're probably going to see them getting mass dementia when they start hitting their 50s
...and i hate to say it but this is also yet one more way afab trenders are gonna demolish our optics, just a ticking time bomb ready to hit right when the enby trend cools off... god
you all need to see if you think that's a psyop feel free to go on gscholar and do your independent reading, it ain't.
look up eunuch self reports too, they all talk about the brain fog and a placid empty feeling sort of thing.
it's fine to low-dose hormones but zero is bad. your adrenal gland will supplement you for awhile but that'll strain it out as you get old.
please do not give yourselves dementia poonbros
just lower your dose if you are that nervous about balding and dadbod
missed this one but you also need to see
I don't really care. Why do you keep linking this? I don't have 0 hormones I have flaming PCOS, Nexplanon, and hrt.
I have every hormone, all of the time, forever. Even if I stop and start hrt randomly. People are also saying is disastrous for aging... I look pretty attractive for someone in their mind twenties. Hrt actively makes you look older, so you have to slow your roll if you want to not age like shit.
moves hair on your head to your neck and asshole
what do you mean my brain is aging i look hot!
retarded and not particularly malebrained either. fujopoon coded.
maybe your intersex situation makes your hormones fine for your long term cognitive health but for most ftms what you're recommending is literal slow suicide.
don't encourage people to make decisions they will regret when they hit 60 and start forgetting people
Don't get on here acting like you're a doctor, pretending to be the mom friend is fembrained. You're not necessarily concerned about anyone's health considering
retarded and not particularly malebrained either. fujopoon coded.
you don't have to pretend like you know things you don't. You couldn't even account for birth control or PCOS, which is hilarious. Clearly you're a poser.
i was just trying to help and your experience is an aberrant outlier so it felt like obfuscation to me. like, most people won't have pcos or be taking exogenous estrogen. and zero hormones coming from anywhere but adrenal is bad.
i was just trying to get the message across so my poonbros get healthy brain aging i didn't mean to make a fight of it
sorry i called you a retard :(
If any of what you were saying were accurate or relatable to ftms our endocrines would have already informed us of it before you were ever aware of the info
most endos, even some that treat a lot of trans patients, don't know shit about trans health.
and in the US i just have to see a nurse to get hrt from planned parenthood (for now) and the informed consent forms are more about common established risks even cis people on these meds deal with, not emerging research about long term trans health.
and many don't even see those, they diy.
why are you trying to shut this down? it's good science to be aware of. and some studies also indicate higher rates of cognitive decline in the trans population, probably most associated to stress and its effects on the heart but removing any contributing factor helps.
literally just google this stuff. go onto a search engine (or ideally an aca search engine) and type the words "trans hrt cognitive risk factors" or "sex hormones and dementia" or anything like that in, and you will see a shitton of information.
your doctor is just a person who went to med school and did specialty training. do not expect them to know everything.
for an example unrel to hrt to show you how broad this runs, i have a chronic condition, i've had doctors who were supposed to specialize in things related to my condition who didn't even know some of my symptoms were possible.
don't webmd cancer diagnose yourself but it's always a good idea for anyone to do their own research on the medications they take. but especially us. we are understudied and undertaught to doctors.
how can you use this board and trust endos to know dick about trannies?
I stopped taking T because
2015-2019
Psychosis, made it hard to hold any habit, showering, brushing teeth, chores, testosterone
2023- (until May) 2025
No money/insurance. no money, no meds, no testosterone
Otherwise, I don't think I've ever said "I hate testosterone! Ew! Evil! I never wanna take this again!"
In fact, I've been considering going on roid sites and buying T illegally and adding tren (trenbolone) onto my daily med stack. I want to get fucking hug and hairy and I don't have a dick to worry about shrinking.
just don't be a fatty poona.
20 year old trans guy
has wonky autoimmune disorders, the most feminine possible physical issue aside from womb problems
It's like poetry.
What a shit thread.
Looked it up, can't find dick on trans men. Trannies are more likely to get dementia because all "minorities" do that.
didn't even bother to get past the first search about trannies
still doesn't know about the role of sex hormones in neurological aging
made some shit up out of your ass to explain your remaining knowledge gap
literally zero interest in learning about self just trying to be right
ngmi
>made some shit up out of your ass to explain your remaining knowledge gap
Truly ngmi if you don't know minority stress increases dementia likelihood. Lurk moar, we've discussed this multiple times here newfag.
whatever, i cba with this. enjoy drooling on yourself and forgetting your name because you wanted to look like one of your anime femboys bro
not a pooner but I can get it, T is way stronger and once you have all the effects of it + top surgery, it won't really change much to stop taking it and testosterone literally causes health issues even in cis men and lowers your lifespan. most of the risks with estrogen can be avoided if you already have top surgery and don't smoke a pack a day
enjoy drooling on yourself and forgetting your name because you wanted to look like one of your anime femboys bro
They love telling on themselves
i am mtf. i was just trying to give a little shout to cognitive health and all of you had to be contrarian debate bro babies about it
What about the ftms passing before t?
Testosterone is actually a very healthy hormone for men. It burns fat, lowers your risk of having a heart attack and increases metabolism. It's why men get prescribed TRT if they suffer from a T deficiency. Some of you ladies here have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.
This person has never had a sip of water in their life
the rest sounds right but
lowers heart attack risk
uh source?
health.harvard.edu
yeah it greatly increases risk of strokes and heart attacks so idk wtf that anon is talking about
Cheetham et al.32 found a lower risk of cardiovascular outcomes in androgen-deficient men who had received TRT (HR 0.67 [95% CI 0.62-0.73]), analyzed retrospectively for a median of 3.4 years.
You bitches are stupid.
quotes a single line of a review not mentioned in the article
does not link the review or study
the actual review also flat out disagrees with what you are claiming from one study that is included in the reciew
why would you even do that?
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Show me your butthole