I am begging you to strongly consider medically detransitioning. You can be happy hrtless!

im not that person but its realy really not, i dont give a fuck about my role or whatever, i just know that without breasts i feel part of my body is missing and now i have them that part isnt missing
women could be expected to do everything men do and men vice versa but id still need estrogen

breasts produce a female social role

You cannot be happy hrtless if you have trannybrain, anyone who tells you otherwise is either a retard or wants to cause you immense suffering

t. hrtless repressor

There is no trannybrain, just being autistic and feeling burdened by gender roles.

Yeah there is
the only people who even care about le gender roles are foid theyfabs doing it for attention

Ok well even if I haven’t sufficiently changed sex to your standards, the effects of estrogen mitigate my dysphoria.

your dysphoria is over your sex role, and the social expectations that brings

no you retarded cunt, it isn’t.

Yeah sure I'll just medically detransition so I can be a disgusting hairy smelly moid faggot with wrinkly rough skin and lose my hair and give women the ick and be alone and leave my loving boyfriend. Just to please TERFs.

You want nothing to do with cis men so why do you care.

I love cis men.

yes. show it

Great so go hang out with them and leave us the fuck alone

I could detrans without weeks of depression and emotional dysfunction

I was mentally worse off in the last few months before stopping HRT. now after being off the medication, T has made me feel a lot more functional, and my mood feels a lot more regulated. a few weeks didn't feel so bad, if you really feel strongly about it, it might be worth taking the plunge?

Some, yes. Definitely. It's a rationalized choice more than a psychological ameliorating. Pretending that transmaxxing isn't real or the rather grim fact that some people don't have a strict "muh bodyplan, I need muh hormones" in their head is ignorant of so many cases.
Sometimes, being "trans" is more carrot than stick.

However, there are people with debilitating body plan incongruence issues. They exist.
I would, too, if I were forced into trannydom. Being a transwoman must feel almost as if not as bad as being a man; especially given the anecdotes I read here.

But I would personally be more intrigued if I just woke up, Metamorphosis-style, as my female counterpart, one morning, than horrified. The terror I would experience is how reality just imploded and I'm somehow completely different, with no explanation.

There's no such thing as 'trannybrain'. There is such thing as Gender Dysphoria, a psychological disorder that causes discomfort with your sexual or social characteristics. There are ways to treat this disorder, beyond transitioning.
I believe, you have a case of, 'grass is greener on the other side'. Let me tell you, you won't make it on the other side. You'll still be you.

I agree with your ideas but what is a person supposed to do to clear the trans thoughts? How to start healing from this without transition?

There are ways to treat this disorder, beyond transitioning

This is literally just a lie unless you're talking about foid trenders

Let me tell you, you won't make it on the other side. You'll still be you.

I know I won't make it to the other side, I tried my absolute hardest to grow out of it and be happy as a man. By the time I realized that was never gonna happen it was already too late to make any meaningful changes, so I'm stuck being a miserable husk of a person until I rope. I never got to be me. I believe with all my heart that if you manipulate anyone else into ending up like I am you will burn in hell forever.

Not that anon
But you could ask the repressors
There is an entire general threat full of hypothetical transgirls that are quite convinced they can beat their own minds and enjoy life without turning into a resentable transgirl.

You don't need to focus on 'clearing' those thoughts, otherwise that will distress you even more. You should investigate and pin down the traits that make you most dysphoric, and introspect on the connected value judgements of those traits. Look into Schema Therapy, and do some research into Freudian concepts of psycho-sexual development.

I never got to be me.

You are you. You need to learn to be okay with what you have, and stop ruminating on what could have been. This is a universal human experience. There are ways to mitigate these feelings. You just have to open your mind to trying.

lol, im not even going to give that bait a you

Thanks I'll read into it. But honestly if I stop thinking about it for a while that is like a vacation. Every woman I see is just a trigger. I just feel absolutely empty and fake as a man.

Not in any way that really matters. I don't expect you to have any understanding whatsoever of what it's actually like, but stop trying to manipulate people into hurting themselves for your own entertainment. They don't deserve that.

I don't expect you to have any understanding whatsoever of what it's actually like,

Of course I do. I tried to transition, when I was 18. It only made my neuroses worse. I'm not the one using highly emotional and flammatory rhetoric, I would counter that as manipulation. I'm offering a different perspective. Accepting your natural form is not 'self-harm', and it is ridiculous that you would frame it in such a way. You are the manipulator. Not me.

You can be happy hrtless!

im gonna kill myself

Then do so. Stop just threatening it.

Based

last year I decided I was a victim

why would i do that when i can take e and have you seethe about it?

have fun in the death camp

Of course I do. I tried to transition, when I was 18. It only made my neuroses worse.

So YOU weren't trans then, ever consider that maybe every other person isn't exactly like you are? People who weren't faking their condition usually say the exact opposite about the effects hrt had on their mental state, and I'm inclined to believe them seeing how my mind has declined so much.
My writing is emotional because this topic is emotional for me, I am not being manipulative.
There is no "accepting your natural form" for people with brains like ours, just ineffectual self-flagellation.

being autistic and feeling burdened by gender roles

autists are gonna feel burdened by any social roles so it doesn't matter

euthanasia

I live alone so I cross dress I'm not on hormones or anything but it makes me feel more emotionally stable. If I don't I go mental after a while. Should I stop? I have been going to therapy and trying to resolve the chaos in my life, I had a period where I was kinda ok with myself for a couple of years but then shit hit the fan and I started to want to troon again. I'm kinda ok with the situation now but I'm kinda disconnected from others as I don't feel like a man, but I do feel that this transgender thing is a disease in me - a delusion. No judgement on others but idk I'm trying to find a way to not go further.

So femme for myself, amab socially - ok to keep this going to keep myself emotionally stable or is this toxic as is?

I did and I am more unhappy
t. mtf

So YOU weren't trans then, ever consider that maybe every other person isn't exactly like you are?

What? I transitioned, I was trans. I took notice that the act never substantially alleviated my dysphoria. I wasn't a woman. I was a trans woman, with male sexual development. Down my path was more surgery and discomfort about my male characteristics.
'Trans' isn't a medical condition. It is a nominal description of an act done by Gender Dysphorics. I have & had Gender Dysphoria. That is not a question. It is on my medical record. Look at this board, do you see happy & fulfilled people? Would a fulfilled individual try to control the language of others, to avoid facing a fact of sexual dimorphism? Would they try to deny their partner's bisexuality? Would they conglomerate into 'queer' cliques, and isolate from broader society?

There is no "accepting your natural form" for people with brains like ours, just ineffectual self-flagellation.

That is what you believe. But it's not a fact. You are enforcing your own destitution.

Based.
Unfathomably based.
I wanna marry her.
Where can I find such level of abstracted beauty?

Tried it for 3 months and hated it. Went back on another 3 months and then tried going off another 2 weeks and hated it. I feel like this is sufficient attempt