Why do so many FtMs dream bout being raped, detransed and impregnated by a cis man?

They are women with testosterone fueled sex drive and a SA history, most likely from a stepfather.

you're not a real man if you don't want to be a woman, you're just a caricature, sorry

fake trans cisgirls with gross fetish

its human nature. same reason mtfs are rape machines. most reproduction from the human species was rape for thousands of years so we evolved to crave it. we simply develop moral frameworks to suppress said desires but they can never fully be removed and will resurface when sufficiently aroused

Thousands of years ago women were bigger than they are now and they were capable of fighting back

the men also hunted and killed large animals. i think they could handle some women

The women also killed large animals that's my point

most reproduction from the human species was rape for thousands of years

There's no evidence to think that's the case though, in fact I would argue our natural moral repulsion to it points to it's relative rarity and modern culture's sexual obsession with it is because of the taboo + narcissism

still no match for a mans testosterone fueled muscles
consent is a very modern concept, in the past if someone was horny they fucked. there is lots of evidence that when a tribe of humans was killed by another tribe they would kill the men and take the women. our moral repulsion to rape is one ingrained culturally not naturally

there is lots of evidence

Such as?

still no match for a mans testosterone fueled muscles

I'm assuming you're a sausageman and not a clamster. Can you choke me out with those muscles? like... Hypothetically, would you be able to choke out a 164cm/125lb trans girl?

They were a match, they found human remains from 10000 yeard ago, and they had women with all the hunting equipment and stuff like they were definitely involved with that, and they were different from modern day women

look it up faggot. im not your mom

females helping out with the hunting means they must have been as strong

i think 99% of people could choke you out retard

Yes dumbass you wouldn't take someone who couldn't do it with you

But im not asking for possible evidence im asking for the specific evidence you are using to make this claim, what article did you read? or when you said "there is evidence" were you just gambling and had read nothing on the subject?

all people doing something must be completely equal, the weaker members of a group capable of participating in a hunt must have been just as strong as the warriors of the hunt

fuck off its the middle of the night i dont exactly keep studies and sources pulled up just in case i need to argue with a retarded faggot

okay okay but like hypothetically, Assuming you're a sausageman and not a clamboy. Would have enough physical strength to also call me a dumb retard and talk about how weak I am compared to you while you choke me out? Would you also be strong enough to do it with one arm and play with my tits with ur other arm? are you strong enogh to do that? I'll warn you doe, I'm an orange belt in BJJ. I used to do it as a kid. I'm super scary strong.

If women were so incompetent why even bother to go hunting with them? Clearly they were good at what they were doing

But you said the exact words "there is lots of evidence" that implies you've read shit and are referring to that, im just asking what you read
You used your memory whilst writing the sentence you can use again 13 minutes later OR you were bullshitting

i never said they were incompetent clearly they were but youre completely missing what im saying and filling it in with black and white thinking. having more people with spears who knew how to use them was good, that doesnt mean the women were as useful as a man. with no weapons a man is like a 2 and a woman is a 1 , you need two women to equal the same skill in hunting as a man, weapons even this out more. but even of you need to women to equal the impact of a man on a hunt it is still beneficial to bring women along as they will positively impact the results ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED

not bullshit
dont remember where i read it
go fuck yourself

Nta, but here's my evidence.

Okay well I googled it and nothing came up, so it certainly seems like you were just bullshitting
You must remember WHAT you read even if you don't remember where so how did they even get evidence of rape in prehistorical times? What were there arguments?

What the fuck are you talking about hunting with no weapons? They killed large animals with weapons. Like are you seriously implying men could just jump a mammoth, like you got 10 men and they are better at hunting than 10 women because they go at this thing with their fists? That's bullshit they were all throwing spears and shit men and women, like some man would catch some kind of ancient coyote with his hands

Was mean for .
Mb.

um...gigachad bros?

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Okay well I googled it and nothing came up, so it certainly seems like you were just bullshitting

google is too woke

You must remember WHAT you read

yeah. when they found evidence of two tribes going to war with each other they would dind the remains of the men that died in battle but not the women as they were taken by the other tribe, like i already said

Bottombrain

this board is so retarded, why do I even come here

google is too woke

You're the one who said to google it

when they found evidence of two tribes

Wait you said MOST reproduction was done through rape for thousand of years (which btw isn't a long time and would have little to no effect on our evolution, this would have to be the case for way longer) your arguement was based on it being the primary mode of making kids and that it almost purely informs our sexuality. And now you're saying actually just one mass grave was empty of women?

Actually you just said "look it up" not to google it, where did you want me to to look it up exactly?

are you the same person from before who is only capable of black and white thinking? i was using that as an example of my point you idiot. if you need evidence of evolutionary human nature look at third world countries without cultures that instill moral values. and as for the time scale thing, what exactly do you think the fucking monkeys were doing?

its not my job to keep you informed on science. if you disagree say you disagree, there is no reason for you to sperg out

No you accused me of black and white thinking. Got anything else to say? Explain it to me how exactly did men jump a mammoth?

Explain it to me how exactly did men jump a mammoth?

jesus fucking christ you are stupid

FTM is a useless man without a dick.
Lesbians would rather be with a woman that wears her hat backwards anyways.

You said men would do better at hunting without weapons

are you the same person from before who is only capable of black and white thinking

I've only argued with you about this evidence thing so idk.
i was using that as an example of my point you idiot
"AN" example implies more and the only example you've stated doesn't argue your point (most reproduction from the human species was rape)

look at third world countries without cultures

There is none? even tribes out in africa have cultures and rules. Furthermore those are modern societies and you're arguing about prehistory

what exactly do you think the fucking monkeys were doing?

Having sex, im sure rape occurred but your argument is that it's so prevalent that our base instinct psychology is almost purely based on it. Even chimps the most methed out savage ape species isn't mainly procreating through rape (unless you count prostitution idk)

Also again you said the argument, and that were was evidence, and now you're mad and calling me an idiot for asking for it?

better THAN WOMEN

its not my job

It is your job if you say there's evidence to show it, or if you say "look it up" to say where I'm meant to be finding it

And my question was how exactly would they do better than women when all of them would end up all dead because they got stomped by the mammoth? Like what did they achieve if they all die to that because they didn't bring any weapons?

There is none? even tribes out in africa have cultures and rules. Furthermore those are modern societies and you're arguing about prehistory

"ah yes these tribes have rules" yeah, everybody has rules but look at the prevalence of rape and sexual assault in countries without deeply ingrained moral frameworks that are against rape

holy fucking shit you are stupid

Wait before I make my arguement what about everything else I said? Are you just admitting that what you said was random bullshit?

Also again you're not arguing that rape occurs, you're arguing that it is MOST of what reproduction was, even in those tribes most kids aren't rape babies

If that's all you have to say then I'll just assume I'm right because you can't refute this. Men's strength is worthless if their stupidity gets them killed

He look kinda similar to me, hot

t. cis boi

Man thousands of years ago you would've died to natural selection because you would've thought you you could take on a gorilla on your owm

Anoooooooooooooonnnnnnnn.... reply to meeeeeeeeeeeeee omggggggggggggg I need to know if you'd be strong enough to do thaaattttttt....

its impossible to convince an idiot theyre wrong. i was never going to get through to you

Wait before I make my arguement what about everything else I said? Are you just admitting that what you said was random bullshit?

no. just because you cant find the shit i read doesnt mean it isnt real

Also again you're not arguing that rape occurs, you're arguing that it is MOST of what reproduction was, even in those tribes most kids aren't rape babies

yeah im saying consent didnt really exist back then and most of the reproduction would be viewed as rape by modern people

go goon somewhere else

no. just because you cant find the shit i read doesnt mean it isnt real

Not even close to what I meant jesus christ it's a post you made 20 minutes ago are you braindead
furthermore YOU can't find it either

most of the reproduction would be viewed as rape by modern people

What are you defining as rape then? Because your argument on the evolutionary psychology of sex relies on it being violent rape, since that's what the fetish is, it's what OP is talking about and people with a rape kink don't crave "sex that only technically might be considered rape by the standards of this one anon on Anon Babble"

furthermore YOU can't find it either

yeah true

What are you defining as rape then?

being forced into sex, doesnt have to be violent but you do have to be forced into it
the people who develop "rape fetishes" today are people who fell back into there animalistic impulses HARD

being forced into sex, doesnt have to be violent

That really changes nothing for the argument at hand and still is claim you have no backing for, most reproduction being forced is an insane claim that goes against all known history, any behavior of our genetic relatives and relies on knowing more about our prehistoric ancestors than is possible to know.

the people who develop "rape fetishes" today are people who fell back into there animalistic impulses HARD

And again the fetish is for violently forced sex, if it was animalistic impulse that would have to be the de facto mode of reproduction for a very long time in our evolutionary history which see above

most reproduction being forced is an insane claim that goes against all known history

modern society views certain things as "rape" or "sexual assault" or "violence" that werent considered as such historically.
if youre not gonna listen to a word i say then why not either fuck off or show me proof of your claims that im full of shit?

This has been fun im going to go play oblivion

modern society views certain things as "rape" or "sexual assault" or "violence" that werent considered as such historically.

Yeah but the fetish you're saying is animal instinct isn't for arranged marriages you idiot

Fembrained game

youre fucking stupid

AFAB detected

I don't know if all of that's true, but if it is, I can make it something more than a dream.

Raceplay but for gender
Duuuh