As a former femboy...

As a former femboy, I think the bigger problem than "do femboys hate trannies" is that it's just not as easy a lifestyle to sustain as being a tranny. There are lots of ugly trannies, but no ugly femboys, primarily because the standards for being considered one have gotten aggressively high lately. I was never a model but I'm slim and look cute in leggings, so that's really all you need. Or at least, it used to be that way.

Unfortunately, a lot of femboys now are one of two things: Pre-HRT trannies, or (i kid you not) literal women masquerading as the opposite gender for clout. That makes it incredibly difficult to stand out.

I also really, really despise the term "twinkdeath" and the damage it's caused to the femboy community. Trannies weaponized natural things like getting wrinkles and thinning hair to make it seem like femboys can't exist after a certain point. Ignore the entire glam trend from the 80s, ignore that we're actually making progress in de-aging solutions, let's just shame any man who is proud he can preserve his boyish features because we're psychopaths and we can get away with it.

So not only did trannies tarnsh the good name of femboys and then attack them for persisting, not only did confused women and grifting trannies dilute the term itself, you now also have to contend with the fact that it has never been less attractive for a guy to be effete in the normie view. It's just stigma on top of stigma, hence why most femboys just hide indoors all day and stop caring. Society stopped rewarding cuteness and is misandrist to a core, even when it doesn't make sense.

shut up and take your E, Nona!

so you’re a “former” femboy because you couldn’t keep up with standards? but you’re still a pretty man? you have to grow out of the label at some point, it’s really just an online porn term anyways. you can enjoy living your life as a feminine man and people generally won’t have a problem with you unless you’re in some shithole country

can't you just self-soothe
here's my problem with femboys
you can't just take a hit and deal with it yourself, and you can't just be satisfied with your own life
you're all daydreaming envious ego-deficient victim complex idiots who happen to be hot

sorry your nazi adjacent pron community got co-opted by foids or whatever

feminine man

fate worse than death

Just take your pills if you hate looking like a guy so much that's literally all there is to it. I don't mind looking like a guy because I read so many stupid things about trannies etc.

frankly, I dont really mind the term femboy
it was definitely transformed by the internet though to the point of standards feeling unreachable, as the internet tends to do. (see, youngshit going from pre 25 to pre 21 to pre 20 to pre 18 to pre pubescent)

I feel like you'd need to politicise the term to salvage it, really make it about normalising the breaking of gender roles in men, normalising cross dressing, and challenging masculinity as a pillar, as opposed to tying it to an image which is more easy to subject to change via porn algorithms

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no ugly femboys

lol.

this pretty much, you have to grow out of the label at some point. no de-aging solution can ever truly out-pace testosterone masculinization and twinkdeath is very much real whether you despise it or not. not unless you decide to intervene with some form of HRT.

half of weirdos do weaponize the twinkdeath term, but most times its just speaking and warning of truth, you can't keep a femboy life up forever and you are gonna have to do things to keep the "femininity" you like so much.

the good news is that there's unironically more paths to go than just trans woman. there's non-binary HRT regimens that don't go full girl. stuff like finasteride, raloxifene, and nandrolone that can be worked into regimens. shit that unironically helps stop full masculinization and being depressed over it. but femboys hating trannies on instinct and thinking they're being "attacked" for being told an inevitability if they dont do anything means they usually don't ever figure it out til too late and either start late as fuck or become balding old men looking at what couldve been lololol.

"Twinkdeath" is a fearmongering over-exaggerated meme spouted by idiots who either didn't take care of themselves or were never twinks to begin with.

Retards seem to think being a teenager is being a twink (it isn't). If you don't look like that throughout your life, you're not a twink.

Picrel is late 30s.

femboys hating trannies on instinct and thinking they're being "attacked" for being told an inevitability if they dont do anything means they usually don't ever figure it out til too late and either start late as fuck or become balding old men looking at what couldve been lololol.

The real issue is trannies pushing egg bullshit on them

true at least. though there's also the thing of people thinking you need to be a binary tranny to be taking hrt when anyone can take any hrt for whatever goal. hrtwink/hrtfemboy or trans nb has been gaining a lot of popularity lately thankfully.

Nah, it happens. The face structure alone gives it away. And personally I don't like hairless guys like him. They just don't have that guyness in them and I'd rather like some bald guy with a stubble. Not saying that they have to be bald but looking like a white boy office worker nerdstick is just icky.

But the face changes are going to happen to trannies too unless they have surgeries so it's not like just taking some pills is going to make it not happen.

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Trannies obviously age but they won't age like a man

Yeah but their faces still expand. Just look at older women faces. Some would even say they look like trannies.

Part of that is menopause stuff

It's literally gravity weighing down on our bones and tissue which ends up converting our faces from V to inverted V-shape but hey if you want to market your campaign it's not like your mind can be changed.

trans people telling cis men how to live

?

So mewing would help even for adults?

possible to fix surgically?

the cis men in question being prone to self harm and depression over how fleeting the features they like about themselves are lol

if they dont care about eventually becoming barry, 63 then by all means i wouldn't care. but if they loathe the idea, there's nothing inherently wrong with letting them know there's better ways to deal with it than just dooming and waiting for it to happen lol. we have the meds, we have people actively discussing regimens, an actual community working on figuring out how to be happier in your own body regardless of where you want to be on the spectrum, cis trans, nonbinary, or whatever else. the knowledge exists and sharing that to people who may need it is better than letting people think they're doomed.

There are lots of ugly trannies, but no ugly femboys

lol

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nta, but as a normal cis man, this isn't true at all, unless the United States is a shithole country. Being feminine and a man isn't allowed, which is why lots of people troon when they're not even dysphoric.

The feminism movement has made women into this sort of protected citizen in pursuit of equity. Gays and blacks merely tried to emulate this with varying and disastrous consequences to how society views them. If you can appear feminine, then you can have power, and women wanted to gatekeep it when trans issues started becoming the left's new pet problem during covid. Women feel the need to defend the power they attained and as such pull whatever strings they can to make it so that homosexuals and feminine men are not allowed to appear like women or hold anything close to the status(despite the effectiveness of femboys and trannies in porn). Meanwhile, black people are just chilling from the sidelines, gradually leaning more towards the feminists because it makes more sense given how much their culture doesn't accept feminine men and homosexuals anyway, though not wanting to admit to it directly. All of this, meanwhile, while trump got elected and everything is burning down and on fire and under attack. Being tolerant of femboys is less of a thing people afford to do. Especially not trannies whose goals of being considered women are directly inconvenienced by femboys looking exactly like trannies but still just considering themselves faggots. Or worse, some femboys don't even admit to being faggots and are conveniently straight, which is exactly what society WANTS to tell trannies to be.

I don't blame you for presenting more masculine in order to at least be respected even if you're not protected and cared about. You were not born as the more valued incubator sex.. I wouldn't go so far as to say that our society is only misandrist, but our solution to a predominantly misogynisitic society was segregate men and women further with misandrist spaces

This is also for OP. Sorry. Here's the you.

literal women masquerading as the opposite gender for clout

i'm gonna be honest i find this incredibly hot as long as i can't tell they're women. like imagine meeting a "femboy" and you feel like he's way too good at this, his voice is way too high, he's so small, etc. and then later, a sudden realization...

There are lots of ugly trannies, but no ugly femboys

keep telling yourself that bro

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You're on the board of autistic dinosaur hand white anorexic AGP fetishists.

spot on and based

amazing you really get it sadly people here will keep finding excuses rather than admit its misandry

If they are ugly they aren't a femboy by definition.

TRVKE
trannies had ONE chance at being accepted and they spent it manhating and larping as lesbians and letting the ugliest most disgusting troons represent their movement/ideology

transgenderism was doomed the second it stopped being gatekept to only hot straight trannies

Yeah I never even considered going on estrodial before because trannies take it and trannies=le bad but now my shit genetics are fucking me up. I even kinda understand why dysphoria is such a big deal for them even if I don't think they're women. I'm 22 so I don't think I'm starting too late though.

bro looks like a south park character

As a former femboy, I very much enjoy gradulating into a boymoder and looking cuter than I ever did. Idk why would you let testosterone mutilate you but have fun being a moid ig

hugs from an enby. nonny youll always be a twink to me

Standards for femboys might be high cause 90% popular femboys are afab ftmfemboys. If you are a cis man, you will never look like someone who has been on estrogen for 18 years. Amab femboys need hrt or they just look like ugly men. Cis femboys are so fucking stupid.

I call myself femboy even tho I've taking E and having 30A breasts just to avoid the stigma. Boymoding/femboycoping until I pass.