why is it that straight mtfs figure out earlier that they have dysphoria than their lesbian counterpart? what's the cause? most late transitioners tend to be lesbian or bi at most but with a heavy lean for women.
What's the cause?
because straight tgirls are trutrans, and rapebians are not. How many times does this have to be reiterated
because we were open gay boys while they underwent years of repression and hiding their true self until they conditioned themselves into loving women
in their mind they fuse there sexuality with there desire to be a woman creating a weird AGP amalgam which they will often just jerk off to satiate
when a straight mtf does this it becomes the desire to be a woman and have sex with men, very easy to recognize
because we were open gay boys
Speak for yourself I was never a fag, Hsts are faketrans as well. StraightGP angles are on the top of the heierarchy
Considering trannyism results from some genetic predisposition and a bunch of added trauma, to you can see that someone whos gay is more likely to experience trauma and triggers the tranny thoughts. for straight guys such trigger/trauma is that they're usually the weird dudes and can't get girls which takes more time to realize
what's the cause?
HSTS already lived as gay males so being trans is not that much of shock
Because straight trannies got faulty circuits a birth and transbians broke their circuitry with obsession and neurological overstimulation catalyzed by high testosterone.
Blanchard tried to be polite and said AGPs aren't less legitimate.
But on the other hand he also enthusiastically endorsed Anne Lawrence's book titled Men Trapped in Men's Bodies which is all about AGPs being men fundamentally with a paraphilia and not actually being all that feminine beyond having a paraphilia about femininity.
Also everyone accepts on some level or another that gay males tend to behave like females (even in other species like mice, so not just an arbitrary social construct).
Also everyone accepts on some level or another that gay males tend to behave like females
lol
lmao even
No amount of seethe makes that not true anon. Just because they don’t act like the femcel weeaboo girls you goon tribute to.
hussies and ayygps both fail to actually act like your normal cis girl, the same way straightdens and gaydens fail to yo actually act like guys. the way they emulate men/women is just different
If you're a male who finds beauty in the the female form it's very easy to assume you are just a straight guy
normal cis girl
Useless phrase. No such thing as a normal cis girl unless you mean upper middle class suburban white american stacy or something
You don't think gays can objectively admire a womans body?
Every fagscent gay I’ve ever met I’ve just naturally treated like a woman and didn’t use the gamer word with them
TRUTH FUCKING NUKE
erm… who’s gonna tell them?
i started at 19, which i think this board finds late? i knew for years but i grew up in an asian household where it was instilled into me that this is very wrong and not normal, and i would repress my feelings due to that. i remember in 6th or 7th grade i would repress by saying i'm too tall to transition (oh god i was so dumb, i was taller than my peers but still a child's height.) so that is why i couldn't start earlier or during puberty. i do remember seeing trans people online when i was 12, i wish i took the time to have a conversation with one of them to help me realize i'm trans and i would've been in a better position
I never understood this whole "gays act like women" thing because I personally never noticed anything like that and I've talked with women and gays many times. Just because some gay men are effeminate doesn't mean they act like women. Maybe 20% at most but these people are always trying to make it 60%.
And even when they try to act like women they just do it the way gay man does it.
Which can actually show clear differences between gays and women.
I personally never seen it.
gay people don't exist
That seems homophobic
No such thing as a normal cis girl
If you ignore the superficial like wealth or upbringing then yes there's something as a normal cis woman the same way there's something like a normal cis guy, some gender specific behavior is almost the same for 80% of all people
this says more about you than them
I don’t get this gays act woman narrative!
okay 20% do but
instant loss
Let's ignore the 80% and focus on the 20%
This is idiotic
Gay people already got born in the wrong body. A gay person gets born in the right body and then transitioning to the wrong one seems a lil nutty
I'm not saying 20% of gays act like women lol. I'm talking about personality.
If your personality is 20% "womanly" it doesn't really mean anything because those cases are rare. That's like, maximum of what gay man can come close to women.
Gays are just effeminate, they act like effeminate men, man being effeminate doesn't mean he actually acts like woman. It has nothing to do with women.
The 20% are the ones troon out and that’s what we’re talking about. Calm ur tits
Calm ur tits
Don't get my gyno involved in this
The whole concept of effeminacy is a way to disparage men by likening them to women (but without the good parts of women). You should read more
Again, you got to wrong. I'm not saying 20% of gays actually act like women that would be alot. I'm saying that 20% of their personality can be actually womanly. That's maximum.
That still doesn't mean gay men have female personalities?
Same shit different name. You’re just put off by them being men. We should do some experiment where flamers and women wear mocap suits and see if you can see the difference once they’ve been visually equalized
Late transition isn't necessarily the same as finding out you have dysphoria late, anon. Someone could find out early yet still spend decades of their life fighting it for various reasons.
honestly all sexuality is conditioned, but nowadays it's very fashionable to be bioessentialist (and considering their lack of education, it might as well be talk of souls).
heterosexual performance is not natural; hatred and fear is at its core, on both sides, because of the alienation that occurs from the sex/gender divide. it's hard to say which comes first, dysphoria or alienation, but i imagine they're bound up from very early on; i believe it's more so that they already choose to take a different path in childhood. it's a matter of who you were allowed to be. children do not often take brave stances knowing they'll be punished for them; they'll go even further, denying to themselves and others that they ever wanted to do so.
hsts trannies can go through the opposite process, seeing females as their ingroup from a relatively young age (because of a close relationship with their mother or female peers), which leads them down a path towards transition. they become alienated from men instead, making it even harder for them to recorrect back to the expected heterosexual male perfomance. it's also possible that they receive positive reinforcement for their feminine behaviours from females, who also see them as a member of the ingroup, which would never be the case towards the straight-male-identifying transbian. just like the transbian, i think their sexuality is also tied up with this process.
as a 'bisexual' tranny, i KNOW that my attraction to women is not wholly natural, but induced on many levels. i do not know if there is a genuine attraction underneath it all.
The way gays resemble women isn't that complicated. It's just that women are submissive and take dicks and gays are submissive and take dicks. That's why the mouse model for gay men involves castrating the mouse at an early age to simulate screwed up hormones in the womb and the results supporting the idea that mouse model is accurate are literally that the mouse "exhibits female behavior" i.e. lordosis posture to receive dickings from other male mice.
The way gays resemble women isn't that complicated. It's just that women are submissive and take dicks and gays are submissive and take dicks.
If you reduce yourself to just being made up of animalistic desires then yes that's true but that's also a very sad and materialistic worldview
I have seen people asking flamers to "act like women". Their performance was forced and kinda laughable. That can really show you how much differently flamers view women vs how women actually act. Obviously there are falmers who can have these female personalities moments but those are actually just "accidents" most of time. After that, they go back to their flamer personalities. In the same way woman can accidentally act like man in one situation but will naturally go back to her womanly personality later.
Gay men have gay male personalities because they go through their whole life as gay men.
Women have women personalities because they go through their whole life as women.
Besides that I have seen how both women and flamers act most of time with my two eyes.
Socialisation is extremely important when building a personality/ how you act in general.
(unfortunately) lesbian mtf who figured out i had dysphoria at 12 and transitioned at 19 (i spent 18 unemployed not in school just trying and failing to kill myself). where do i fall on the scale? hmm?
as a 'bisexual' tranny, i KNOW that my attraction to women is not wholly natural, but induced on many levels. i do not know if there is a genuine attraction underneath it all.
you sound like me but I don't pretend to be bi
I don't think my behavior or identity was conditioned, I can remember adults and peers trying to get me to act masculine growing up and it just kinda bounced off. I'm a pretty deliberate person but a lot of it I didn't even realize I was doing, I just thought it was normal until someone would point it out.
Opposite's true for me. I'm a lateshit repper because any feminine behavior i had i could just excuse as me being a cis gay man
played shit like Style Savvy
a gay guy into fashion? groundbreaking
wanted an easy bake oven as a kid
there's literally a joke in Queer as Folk about it
nearly everyone i ever idolized was a woman
gee i fucking wonder if gay men have a stereotype associated with that
feminine mannerisms
etc etc.
Blanchard also thinks HSTS are men fundamentally, this “HSTS = trutrans” meme is just shit nu-blanchardists came up with themselves to feel superior.
AGPs tend to become male feminists from an early age which tells them that transitioning is an evil fetish. The truth is AGPs are much more redpilled on tranny shit and delay their transitions because of that.
Well, trutrans is really just a shorthand to refer to people who changed theirselves externally to be a closer match to their personalities. Nobody in the scientific community actually is thinking people are born with female souls.
This is funny because it seems so assbackwards to me, a non-zoom. As tumblr feminists were the first to spread gender ideology and embrace trannies.
i always wanted to be a man’s wife since i was little, i just wanted to make a guy really happy; and i didn’t want to be a gross old man
nta but they're were exactly the ones pushing it's ok to be a feminine man rhetoric
Only before they discovered trannies existed. 2013 tumblrers kept proto-pink pilling me it drove me from the site
god i wish i was on tumblr in 2013
That’s not what it means at all, it’s very explicitly a term for someone who is *truly* trans as opposed to someone who is faketrans, your attempt to redefine it is nonsensical. The point is that Blanchard never cared about “legitimacy”, to him AGP and HSTS are just two different kinds of perverts that can benefit from transitioning, so to suggest that Blanchard believes that HSTS is more “legitimate” is revisionism.