Millions now know that facial feminization surgery for mtfs is a sham, thoughts?

millions now know that facial feminization surgery for mtfs is a sham, thoughts?
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hit a lick

Wtf, also people always had

You mean 100 people and 7.5M xitter bots?

OK, I welcome Xitter scum to believe that. It will only bring their guard down around me as I actually pass and they'll be expecting every trans person to be obvious.

who tf did he go to? how can you be that honnish AFTER FFS??

looks aryan to me

can someone translate i don't speak impoverished black

that forehead work is diabolical how did they fuck up that bad

DB I think
they got a shitty nosejob and a jaw reduction
no type 3, seemingly no chin work, no lip lift

okay i date black guys so i can help. “hitting a lick” means that someone stole something or otherwise made a monetary gain in an unsavory way. this fine gentleman is saying that the surgeon basically just took lilliths money and didn’t do shit for him

It helps you pass but it also makes you really uncanny at certain angles. I feel like if you disclosed people would hyperfocus on that

get real

Looks like the surgeon did the jaw but forgot the rest of the fucking face

NO FUCKING WAY. i went to DB… he made me beautiful. he is also VERY particular about doing every procedure you need at once. lillith here had a hairline scar, so you’d assume type 3. i will admit, DB isn’t good at noses. i want a revision on my rhino. but i would be shocked if this was his work.

Every transition timeline is like

left: hard light, shadow on face

right: diffuse light, no shadows

Literally every single time

its truly over for manmoders if this really is DB’s work

i don’t think it is. like, as someone who has went to him, i just can’t believe that he would associate himself with this shitty of work. he is a perfectionist (he’s also sexy as hell). unless he just hates lilith and wanted her to remain a hon, that’s the only thing i can imagine.

idk, I just heard she was going to DB here at some point, I can't actually see if she said who it was online
but yeah it literally looks like the surgeon just took the money and did the bare minimum work out of spite

are you dense? her hairline has been advanced, her forehead doesnt protrude, her nose has been completely redone, her upper lip has been brought back, her chin has ben reshaped, and her adams apple is much less prominent

i looked at over a 100 of his before and after, i have a signed copy of his book. ive had two rounds of ffs with him, i think she was lying.

That doesn’t make anything I said about the lighting untrue

and he still looks like a MAN

works fine if you weren't manly to begin with

lol he's been famously declining in quality for years now

she may not have had the budget to go all the way, or wanted to "preserve her face" like a dumbass. ffs does wonders for plenty of people. frankly it did wonders for her she was uglyyyyy before

If you need FFS it was already over for you.

She seems the type to want to be a little clocky. She probably asked to have less done.

oh really? he was considered “the best” when i went to him, 6 years ago i think: maybe while he was at his prime.

oh i asked for him to go as aggressive as he could. he shaved HELLA bone for me. but yeah he esspensive like almost 100k

she’s still ugly tho. like really, really ugly. inside and out

anon i'm not going to go back and forth while you're participating in a miss the point challenge

How do you even afford all of this surgery? The costs are ridiculous

but yeah he esspensive like almost 100k

Damn, how do all of you afford this shit. Even making six figures I'd need a long ass time saving that up.

my grandparents are multi millionaires

Saving for years.

Or just follow what some dumb bitch on a suicide line told me to do 7 years ago. Sex work

It honestly would not surprise me if she came into the consultation with Dr. Deschamps acting in a manner similar to how she acts on tiktok.

There is just no way he half-assed her face this much unless he straight up did not like her.

bitch needs to mew fr, having a fuckable bone structure doesn’t excuse weak mandibular posture

Ah yes, the greatest power of all: being born into money.

asked to speak to DBs manager lmao

hey, y’all asked. i didn’t choose the circumstances of my birth. if i had, id have been born cis and neurotypical.

nah. doesn’t seem likely. she has bad bone structure. she also started hrt way later. she was doomed from the start. but i have brainworms so

Oh, I'm not mad at you for it. Just depressing in an expected way is all.

so do they just hand you shit. how spoiled are you? must be fucking nice man.

yea i feel that.

i make six figs and spent the cash but i lived with 3 roommates. slept on the floor and ate cheap shit every day.

not worth it.

could’ve put a down payment on a house.

now i have to save for that and i dont have the energy to live like a bum anymore.

being rich is easy mode.

I'd rather be an uncanny woman than a man

i realize i am a privileged ass tranny. i genuinely try to help anyone else with gender dysphoria i can, to sort of lessen my guilt and just because it feels nice.
not exactly. more like, i went to them earnestly and explained gender dysphoria, and how ffs can improve my quality of life, and help me live more safely. they’re conservative as hell so they were hesitant, but ultimately i was able to convince them. the other grandkids got cars and house down payments anyways, i still rent an apartment

keojampas mogs db. all day every day. he costs more tho. the voice girl on twitter had her work done with him twice i believe. 200k+ lol

The surgeon HATED this patient

imo uncanny women get treated wayyyyy worse. sexual value matters. not to sound like a fag

Nice, and it's so cool that you decided to go for that, self care is sexy

i consulted with keo. but he was rude as fuck… and had horrible bedside manner. he also wanted to do a crazy jaw procedure on me and didn’t want to do a nose job. i actually consulted with him before DB. but yeah zheanna is soooo pretty. i wanna get my rhino revision with keo despite the complaints, he makes cute noses and is qualified to do them as an ENT. that’s the other thing, DB is a craniofacial surgeon, keo is just an ENT with aplastic surgery designation

My ffs surgeon told me to my fucking face he only tries with patients he loves. He actually showed me a hon, after i said im not beautiful

my dear, you absolutely are beautiful and a pleasure to work with, now look at this patient... uguhh

I have 2 sugar daddies

well don’t leave me wondering nona… which surgeon lmfao? sounds based

I dont care, im no longer suicidal. This is the best i can possibly hope for

this is NOT me. i have 0 sugar daddies.

I earnt every penny. But ive got pretty much everything done, next up is my vagina, i cant have it yet because they think i may have cancer in my privates, theres a growth.

I have been rubbing estrogen gel on it for the past 3 years, and injecting so could be related who knows. If it is cancer my only option is vulvoplasty, which id rather not

Hehe he is a funny character, but i cant say.

I now believe him, that i am beautiful, and i should be happy

nothing could ever make lilytino pass, he’s an ogre who’s only purpose is to make ragebait tiktok videos

What an existence

my dear

Does your surgeon call everyone Darling?

Lol

aw ok. i understand nona. idk why but i got Harrison Lee vibes from it, maybe Mardirossian (since he’s a MAGA ffs surgeon, just seems the type.) obviously i’ll never know, but i could imagine it being one of them

getting ffs

not getting brow reduction

lol, lmao even

that's the single most important procedure

He is an old school gentleman lol.

And yes he says darling, dear and does so in a lovely voice. It feels like im speaking to the past when i talk to him

Hope he liked me then.
Quite happy with my results overall.

MAGA ffs surgeon

Now that's an esoteric man

Its quite a revelation to realise surgeons change the amount of effort they put into their clients

I remember one anon here, the surgeon told her she was very pretty, lots of men will be using her vagina so he will do his very best

I mean I've worked in customer service enough to know that if you treat the person on the other end like shit they tend to just give you the absolute bare minimum.

Its true, treat people as you wish to be treated. Smiling and being human goes long way. Im austistic and can be clumsy with my words, but i an sincere and people respond to that

prolly just in it for the money tbhon. knowing you can rake in 60-70k surgeries 3 times a week by playing along can make someone do something that doesn’t align with them politically
lmao the worst part of this is he was also implying she’d be a little slut

if she didn’t get a brow reduction, why the hairline scar? did she just get the hairline lowered?

this is why i want to just rep forever, you can't trust anyone, no matter how much you pay the surgeon will do as he pleases just like some strangers on the street that'll bash my skull in if they please, or maybe there's some malpractice at the er because of my demographic.

well picrel is literally famous for screaming at customer service people on tiktok so…

Hey, atleast the hon curse couldn't have struck a more deserving person.

Anyway looking at her video, the surgeon did all he could really. I don't know what people expect. The surgeon to permanently paralyse their entire face? There's only so much work that can be done

Also her make up is fucking terrible, you can give the hon all she needs but you can't take out the hon from her brain.

mardi isnt maga after all he said on reddit he is not a trump suporter and im glad hes not since im going to him soon and i like him better then db

damn you must be a gigayoungshit then i assume? wish i had sugar daddies to pay for my ffs

wasnt he following a buncha right wing shit on his socials? he does good work though nona. i hope you are very happy with your results and have an easy recovery. bring lotsa protein shakes/drinks if you’re getting jaw work

yea he was but he said on reddit he was only folowing them to keep tabs on his aversaries to see what they think about what he does and he said keep your friends close and your enemies closer so yea he unfolowed them now but yea even if he is not a democrat at least he is not a trump suporter and thank you!!!!!! yea i do have jaw work so im sad i cant eat after but im going to try the protein shakes to see if i can like them and i hope i can have things like ice cream or juice to soon after! thank you for saying that and yea i cant wait!!!

To be fair, being right wing doesn't mandate liking Trump.

i saw people saying he is not conservitive but even if he is im happy he is not a maga

Very fair, there's no reason to like him even as a right wing tranny after he started going after us.

Mega dose vitamin C. Ive had a lot of surgery, mega dose Vitamin C.

It helps tremendously. Vitamin C. Take 4500mg everyday for two weeks after surgery. Its a water soluble vitamin so you cant over dose. I was drinking 6 litres of water daily, and i looked great after 2 weeks.

Vitamin C. Buy it now

im left wing but yea trump wants to get rid of trans surgery so its good that dr m does not like him

Last i checked Blaire White still telling everyone she is maga

thank you i take the vitamin gummys now i think that has vitamin c in it but i cant have that kind if i cant chew but i love drinking lots of water but thank you i can ask my mom to get that for me and i like some vitamins even when i dont have surgery

I'd accept not being able to smile or furrow my brow for a better face desu.

Blaire at this point has to. What else does she have other than being used as a sock puppet for chuds? Her credibility is shot.

This is an alright improvement, don't get the hate

Some people avoid getting brow done if it would widen deep eye sockets in an unnatural ghoul-looking way

all the hating on DB and his results in this thread

uh oh anons i had FFS with DB a few months ago. i wonder if i seemed pretty or normal enough for him to put in effort. i'm ugly too... hmm i don't feel so good

im sorry but i still want my brow bone to be gone i hate it

I dont feel the need for facial surgery, I dont mind looking like a twinkhon but picrel. Dont ever tell me facial feminization surgery is a sham. It all depends on the surgeon.

It will be the best thing you do post recovery, and im happy that you'll heal quickly. Its a miracle supplement. I took it the day i came out from anesthetic lol.

Im mildly angry more surgeons dont recommend it post op, it really is great. I go on sugury subreddits and everyone is like "why am i heaing so slowly, why am i so swollen", it upsets me people are not told more about Vitamin C.

Also if you have a rhinoplasty, take Bromelain, im having a corticosteroid injection in a couple of months, it minimises scar tissue build up. Game changing supplements

acibademhealthpoint.com/how-much-bromelain-to-take-after-rhinoplasty/

thank you !!!!!!!!!! that is so nice to tell me and im happy that now i can heal fast after ffs thank you and yea i do have rhino so i can do that to i didnt know what that one is but i love pineapple so yea i can take that thank you so much

Neanderthal to pretty cute.

onions is actually good. the choccy one tastes like chocolate milk for real. and yes the anonette who suggested vitamin c is right. it helps. a lot.

Neanderthal to VERY FUCKING CUTE

It looks so uncanny to me. Like you’re wearing prosthetics to play a changeling on Deep Space Nine

Consuming adequate vitamin C promotes proper estrogen production, whereas individuals with a vitamin C deficiency might experience lower estrogen levels. The University of Maryland Medical Center indicates that vitamin C supplements can enhance the estrogen-boosting effects of hormone replacement therapies, potentially causing a drastic increase in estrogen in individuals who previously suffered from a vitamin C deficiency 1.

More benefits of Vitamin C, it helps very much with feminisation. I have a background in sports science, i was bored one summer and took a ton of qualifications lol, so I was like wow, this information is genuinely useful

healthfully.com/vitamin-c-estrogen-level-6604063.html

Yay a fellow believer!

thank you i dont like to eat real onions but maybe the juice kind is good and i like choclate so thank you i hope i can try all the good flavers after my ffs

omg wtf i didn’t know s o y l e n t auto corrected to onions
DB did amazing work on me. don’t worry nona, i’m sure he did the best he could for you. i think lilith is just such a monster he half assed it, if he even did hers. i am still skeptical. it doesn’t look like his work. unless she specifically asked him to go super conservative and make minor changes

omg wtf i didn’t know s o y l e n t auto corrected to onions

Newfag detected

worry about my hairline

meanwhile chomphon got his hairline brought forward and its still worse than mine

maybe i dont have it so bad

I have plenty of images of Marie if you want to feign ignorance

Huh I'm one week post ffs and everyone's saying I'm healing really quickly.

Turns out drinking all that OJ in the morning was worth it.

oh wow im not good at that stuff like what that means but thank you and i do want more estrogen like im sad i have to stop estrogen for ffs but im happy i take vitamins every day now like the gummy kind

yeah it's a hairline lowering

no no honey s o y l e n t . i’m sorry i’m a newfag and don’t know all the filters

You don’t see what I’m talking about? Around the eyes. something really weird and synthetic that I can’t describe well

yes yes i admitted i was a newfag, and an actual fag lol

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh thank you i was like eww onions what the heck thats discusting but i didnt want to be mean so i was like maybe onion juice is better but eww ok thanks i can see what that is and yea there is lots of words you cant ever say here like you cant do emojis here also

There’s a lot of talk about American surgeons in this thread, but what are the best options for eurohons currently? QQ?

Also is facial team completely pointless at this point considering their cost

You're trying too hard to troll.

not rly some are just unfixable

its ok now i see what you mean i can have that yea i was like ewww onion juice but i didnt want to be rude so im happy its not onions thank you

It will all go well, and you'll feel so much better about yourself :)

Happy new chapter in your life

It looks like a mask. I don’t have autism btw so that could be why you can’t see it but I can

i’m sure he did the best he could for you

thanks anonette but this really isn't reassuring lol
i actually do like my brow results right now, but as my nose is healing i'm having issues with it. i really didn't want to have get a revision :( i suppose it's hard to be too mad when i knew DB's nose work wasn't my favorite

Facial team botched a girl so bad she suicided

thank you so much your so nice thank you !!!!!!! <3

proof? damn that’s fucked if true

yeah DBs noses are horrible. mine looked so cute like a week post op then started changing and it looks wonky now. i want a revision but grandma ain’t paying for more surgery so gotta save up. forehead is phenomenal though. it sounds like you had about an avg DB experience if you had good forehead mid nose

i love orange juice im happy you get to have that after your ffs and i hope your all healed soon !!!

you don’t have to stop estrogen. that’s a psyop

Fuck me that’s rough.

go back to the sharty
you convince no one

they said i have to do it so i dont want to break the rules and i still get to keep my lupron i had that before

Thank you nona! The fucking day 2/3 swelling was suffering but I'm fine now mostly. Sometimes my forehead feels weird but I think that's the nerves connecting back together. And stupid swelling in jaw is annoying but I've been able to finally chew again normally.

I've been forcing myself to eat this entire week. Managed to complete a plate of pasta today feeling very proud of myself desu.

your welcome im sorry im not nona but im happy that your healing and you started to feel better and im so happy you get to have pasta and can eat now !!!! <3

well i don’t blame you one bit for listening to your doctor. just anecdotally, i didn’t stop estrogen for surgery and nothing bad happened