Serious thread, not trying to troll...

Serious thread, not trying to troll. I'm genuinely curious about this because I don't know any queer people IRL and so your mindset is alien to me.

Why do so many queer folx support open borders and mass-immigration of 3rd-world brown retards who are often dogmatically religious (either Muslim or Catholic, occasional Hindus if talking about 'jeets), patriarchal, queerphobic, anti-feminist, and often have violent outbursts towards queer folx? Wouldn't you rather maintain a majority high-IQ white liberal population that's accepting of you?

inb4 mods delete this thread anyway because current Anon Babble is basically Reddit

because white people made fun of them when they were gay little kids.

i do hate minority cultures, for the same reasons i hate conservatives, but i feel you can integtrate them relatively easily over a generation (or two). first gens tend not to make trouble. and like that you can reap the benefits of immigration without much consequence.
however, enclaves have concerned me. i dislike the muslim religion and it makes me uncomfortable there are still conservative cultural values being transmitted generation to generation in my own country. it's not meant to work that way, and so something has obviously gone wrong. i know of many muslims who have succesfully pulled a modern christian and thrown their holy book out the window, which is great, but the ones who slip through the cracks need to be addressed somehow. i honestly don't know how.

Because Progressivism is an endless journey and is revolutionary at it's core.
Everything old and settled needs to be torn up and redone, regardless of whether or not it worked or was good for society.

I see the west as inherently degenerate and doomed to collapse the same way right wingers do but see different ways of getting there and yeah immigrants aren't all bad. I sometimes think migration functions like a darwinian filter so only the fittest make it through.

There are a lot who don't but the thing is that Rightwingers hate LGBT people while Leftwingers don't.

Because queers have a much easier time around the left and the left tends to treat them like human beings they adopt leftism.

If rightwingers hadn't spent the last 80 years trying to make queers suffer then maybe it would be a different story.

Most queers will realise their mistake when Islam becomes the dominant force in their country but that's too late and still the fault of the right.

If the right had chosen it's battles it might have won but instead it chose to fight everyone.

immigration is fine as long as you do it in small bursts to allow immigrants time to assimilate into the culture they are joining. in the US what you have is a large amount of illegal immigration that is more or less allowed or turned a blind eye towards because it is convenient to have an easily exploitable group of people who will do the shitty jobs no one else wants to do for shit pay. on top of that you get the added bonus of creating a political spectacle out of said group when convenient and "fixing" a problem that didnt exist in the first place, or at least not in the way it was being presented.

To me it just seems like it leads to more 70IQ phobic chuds breeding. Would you rather be a gym full of white men or a gym full of pajeets. Be honest.

I honestly have no problem with pajeets when they are 99.99th percentile of their countrymen. Don't project your own love of pale skin and hillbilly accents on me.

Because you're stuck thinking in terms of populations that are assumed to be homogeneous, and fail to balance together several issues, like climatic migrations (which may manifest as "economic"), the ethics of violent border patrol, valuing freedom of moving across the world, etc. Also many queer non-whites ask for asylum in the West, so even if you HAD to be thinking in terms of "favor people like you", this still exists.

You're telling me you would prefer this over a 7 foot tall blonde hunk?

The sadness of trying to make politics out of personal distaste of people's appearances.

Yes.

That's a good point honestly. I've been a chud my whole life, but as I get older I find myself being more tolerant of alt. lifestyles. I'm still racist though.

i don't know but i don't like the idea of living in some latin country. my neighborhood has already gotten shittier and now it's too expensive even for most white people to move to the suburbs if you haven't already bought a house.

This is why I say your mindset is alien. I always assumed valuing aesthetic beauty was an inherent instinct, but I guess some people have a mutation that causes them to see things differently.

Brown trannies are the best trannies

that is their battle. the right's whole thing is reflexively hating anything different. if they suddenly accepted gays and atheism and getting your hair dyed it wouldn't be conservatism anymore. you'd lose your entire base doing this. there are conservative schools of thought, but that's never been what 99% of conservatives have been about. it's an inherent flaw of your side. no getting around that; the left is the big tent.

That generation is dying out. Most of them have offspring that fall under >queer. I believe these children deserve a place of acceptance that their queer sibs that came and died before them, for many years prior and for many years after, havent had a chance to taste.

Latinx and black troons are mostly man-faced. Thai ladyboys are more feminine than other browns, I grant; and Asians in general are more feminine than whites on average. However, a good passing feminine white tranny is still the peak.

Not only that but I will go against immediate reactions of disgust on the basis of reasoning, validated through other means. And it turns out a lot can be trained out, and that the likely source was actually early socialization and lack of exposure. What you think is instinct is actually in a large part internalized social structure.

You are looking at it wrong.
See You could give them even someone almost as good looking as me(!) and they would still want something else, purely for the sake of change.

real answer:
leftism has been rooted in the oppressor/oppressed concepts of intersectionality. because of this, people who take leftist positions assume that a coalition of the "oppressed" will have the same interests. the reality is that power doesn't corrupt it reveals. lgbt people dont realize how good we have it and choose to align with epistemic enemies to maintain ideology over self-advocating

And it turns out a lot can be trained out,

AKA: the state threatening to imprison you for not lowering your standards .

lefties don't support fags/trannies
it's just virtue signaling
as soon as woke culture got pushed back on trannies got thrown under the bus

As usual rightoids go full schizo when faced with a real discussion. I have no idea how tf your reply relates to what you quote.

yeah theres two political ideologies in the west rn
white supremacy and pan arabism
lmao

bc when i form this opinion i'm not doing some mental calculus of how much i like the potential immigrants or not. i just hold the ethical position that immigration is fine and that people who immigrate , even illegally , don't deserve to be scorned

i dont really care about anything but Hispanic people treat me really good and the guys want to fuck the shit out of me.

It's a niche group, but you should look into Richard Spencer's Apollonian movement. It's anti-Christian and basically liberal (tolerant of queers, etc.) but it still generally advocates for whites acting in their own interests and is opposed to 3rd-worldism. Most people know Spencer from his cringe years in 2015-2017, but he's since distanced himself from most of the right. He supports Ukraine, for example; which makes a lot of MAGAtards hate him.

Western Europe and the Anglosphere (excluding the USA) all have "hate speech" laws. You can go to prison for saying you don't want more Arabs flowing in.

You can say that, literally. What you can't do is go around promoting murder and stuff. Like, have some self restraint, you can find someone ugly and yet not act out.

Where are all the trans immigrants in these conversations
Why if it's a hon looking for an accepting environment and estrogen

You sure about that?
cheshire.police.uk/news/cheshire/news/articles/2024/8/men-jailed-after-posting-racist-messages-on-social-media/

The UK has some vague law about "stirring up racial hatred" which can mean anything. I've seen countless examples over the years to the point that it's become a meme to dunk on Europeans for not having free speech.

Those aren't the majority. 90% of the time it's just 70IQ Muslim named Mohammed who loves to grope white women on the train.

God I wish we had a working legal system that prosecuted people for racism.

man gropes woman on train

is this not just average man behavior? I'd be on their side if we deported all men...

So far it seems like you're all delusional retards ITT except for like 2 people. Sad.

Now show the "police officer looks like my lesbian nana" story too so they understand how crap policing is in the UK.
Whilst also bearing in mind that there are a large number of Pakistani Muslim grooming gang members on the streets that the police won't touch, because it's "a culture thing"
I have Pakistani Muslim friends, and I can tell you now it's NOT "a culture thing"

Yes I'm sure. Quote from the article:

This included multiple posts containing racial abuse and encouraging people to engage in racial hatred.

You're engaging in the "look I have a study!" tactic because you believe arguments are about saying you have a source or study, rather than using a sounce that actually supports your argument. To the point you might even cite stuff that directly contradicts you. Rightoids sure are an amazing bunch.

*don't hate

"That doesn't fit MY narrative so I'm going to play dumb!"

What about this incident?
Do you believe it is proportionate?

youtu.be/cm6bP_FRfPg?si=HefF6FFqRuyeuExY

this but unironically

the soil is really magical and the effect of evolution ends at the neck

You fucking morons.