HSTS are women

HSTS are women.
AGPs are straight men with a fetish.

LMAO keep coping rapehon
Agps are the only real women. Hsts are just gay men. Also straight men don't like getting dicked down idiota

Gay men dont have gender dysphoria or tits.

now you are getting it. Gay men can definitley have tits though. just look at hsts.

Dumb nigger shitting up another thread

Hsts are straight women who can only live as straight women. Its harder to be a straight trans woman than a gay man anyways.

Hsts are straight women

LMAO
hsts are gay men, end of.
The only real women are straightgps anything else is a man in a dress lol

everybody ive ever met has thought i was hsts until they found out im t4t
it's literally just homophobia but trans

And all of you are ugly, big nose, big brow ridge long philtrum horse faces.

Hsts have more in common with agps than they think. Just love each other

trutrans checklist for ya

agp

bottom

meta-attracted to men

An hsts cannot ecperience dysphoria as they are just gay men. AGPs experience dysphoria because their identity is intrinsically linked to their ego as a construct of womanhood

you just described a white person lmao

Hsts act like women agps do not ever

Hsts act like women

lol hsts act like fags, bc guess what, they are fags. Agps actually behave as a normal fucking person, normal women. Not a surgery fueled drag show

Im literally a gay man on hrt that did it to get a man and it worked
Never seen myself as a woman tho and still go to male toilets
I have admiration for anyone here making the effort to voicetrain and pass and all that. I sometimes wish i could easily do a girlvoice since it would make things less complicated but its so hard

Exhibit A, I appreciate your honesty in showing some sanity here

Hsts act totally different from gay men you sound homophobic

lmao alright show me one

I assume you are all white

if I was white I'd be a heighthon like most of the sub

Nicole maines

are you dense lol? How is this hsts to you?

yes
She is a leading light in the hsts community

She's literally agp lol. You think she was gay and wanted to switch genders to get men at 2 years old? Goofball

most of the sub

Hsts dont transition to get men they transition to inhabit a more natural social role for their already female behavior.

sorry my redditisms slipped through

also why is the back so accurate?

There was hsts thread yesterday and all trooned cause they could not get men and some ended up dating other trannies after that and called it feminized twink x feminized twink relationship and how it is the best they can do

Rapehons are more valid as a woman than them

Probably just agps false flagging. Real hsts have to transition to socially belong to society its just like a basic human impulse to find your place in a group.

that's what I've been saying man

well it seems that i defy stereotypes then….

If you are not cute, you may still be trutrans agp, but it is harder to tell.

no i’m cute and have a fagcent

the mod hates you for a reason and it rightfully seems to know why. your double standards and your hypocrisy.

rapebian

whatever, if you defend AGP shit and pinkpilling i hope you get estrogen insensitivity and start masculinazing so your fantasy gets over.

sorry i just get a bit heated when it comes to newfags thinking they are some sort of authority when they are just as lame as everyone :)

hmm, many times agps are comp-homo due to their meta-attraction to men. So it is possible that is where your fagccent comes from

your double standards and your hypocrisy.

lol name a single "double standard" or "hypocrisy" I've said

pinkpilling

literally nobody brought that are schizo

i hope you get estrogen insensitivity

that's not nice please take it back

This tripfag is legitimately an insufferable autist.

It really sucks that AGPs just fuck men now

I would hate me too if i had to live knowing someone so much better than me existed

erm i don’t think it’s comp tho… always like guys

dolls r a type of women
bricks r a type of men

yes but not because you were gay, but due to an underlying meta-attraction to men (which makes you trutrans). Otherwise you are a hsts and unfortunately faketrans

do you like skynyrd?

why?

what is a meta attraction

The band? no

Almost all trips are, but you can tell whenever a tripfag is a newfag and has the vibe of a superiority complex. Mostly the new influx of tourists have brought yet a lot of awful new people and this autist is yet a good example of such insufferable retard that the board tends to have.

You gave up your manhood don't even try to pull that shit with me. Do you know the kinds of things I would do to a pretty little nigger like you if I caught you alone?

attraction that goes beyond simple sexual arousal. It is the feeling you get when you are attracted to someone in such a way that it affirms your femininity. Like wanting to be the little spoon. Wanting to be a wife. Wanting to feel, in whatever way you view it to be, someone in the societal role of a woman. This is the beauty of AGPs, this is the beauty of trutrans.

There are some AGPs who can love men too.

Too many conflicting emotions here, either call me pretty or call me the n word, don't be schizo about it

this sounds too complicated baby i’ll be the fake trans one because that sounds way easier … i just want a boyfriend and not in a gay way … and i fit better with female social roles and whatnot

yes I am one

superiority complex

it's reality not a complex
and it has existed far prior to coming here

nta, but you can be both
shame about the skynyrd though.

why? that seems random

I can be your straight bf if you're really girl have had or want to get srs. because butt stuff is gross

Buck status?

I don't answer whys. my questions are too self evident.

if you’re really girl

esl

are you asking if im racist?

I'm hungover and wrestling with my keyboard ya teetotaling fuck

I asked if you liked skynyrd because I like skynyrd. that's the why.

poor man, too lit last night?

oh

oh

I mean, come on.
has anyone ever asked if you liked a particular thing? it's because they want to enjoy it with you. you're more autistic than I am, and I'm pretty autistic.

probably I don't remember people don't typically talk to me

the words aren't the same words! I type them out, and they seem to have changed! what dark magic is this?

I'm a retired transbian, for some reason after COVID they just threw themselves at the ugliest men possible.... I ended up with a cis hapa gf and now I'm gonna get her pregnant, life is fuckin weird man

i blame the evil demons in ur phone sweetheart

Thats just meta attraction. They are prison gay cuz actual lesbians wont date them.

Actual lesbians? wtf are you on about agps are attracted to men lol why would they date a lesbian

many are attracted to women. you seem to be quite the know it all. it's hard to be the little spoon when you're always right.

i have a boyfriend and i love him sexually and bc how he is, and how gentle he treats me, it's comfy
i transitioned bc it fit more my way of how i am since i was faggy and liked men though im still highly dysphoric so im getting SRS sooner than later

idk i find the tru and faketrans and agp/hsts discussion so funny, i rather be in more bliss cause newfags like to yell these terms like freshly baked bread

Trans lesbians are straight men larping as lesbians but afabs won’t date them if they are actually lesbians.

it's hard to be the little spoon when you're always right.

This is true I'll probably die alone

sure but thats not agp. How would a meta-attraction to females be affirming to your gender?

that sounds lovely. I want a tranner gf that wants to be treated gently and gets an srs for me.

#goals i love you queen, waiting for my king baka <//3

They're straight men with a self feminization fetish that got out of hand til they get surgery to remove their dick.

everyday i forget about the silly little word replacements

sure, i call them hsts - heterosexual transexual

What's the difference between them and agps?

gets srs for their boyfriend

the ideal thing is that they want to get it for their own self, i am on that side cause I hate my genitals and i avoid looking at them, i even shower with lights fully out
you will find one but highly depends. i was lucky to be what i am somehow (in bareable terms) cause otherwise i think i would be dead

but do you like to be treated gently?

agps are true trans they experience meta-attraction only possible if you truly have an internal experience of the gender you are transitioning to. These people don't have that

the man doesn't care if you're hst or agp. if you look, sound, and act like a woman, and want to fuck him, that's enough. just let it be enough

It's not enough though. I don't want to be lumped in with men.

Cuz ur misandrist

ofc, why not, its not like i wanna be treated like someone who likes to be beaten, that's just not my thing. my boyfriend treats me well so i dont complain, it just feels like he does it gently and pays attention to me while i wanna do the best for him

How? I love men. How tf am I simultaneously called a misogynist and a misandrist lol

You dont love yourself (a male)

I am female

yeah i got a guy on the mind right now… just a slow courtship

Because you view being male as sexually predatory.

no?

im just a guy on hrt who likes men desu, dont id as female though, im just v afraid of aging.

that's #2, when will you all realize im right

ydgi, i fail to qualify for the transsexual part of homosexual transsexual

hrt

No you don't

both cis women and men take hormones at times, wdym

How does that contradict what i said? Transgender is not transexual. Hsts are transexual but not transgender, which is why they are faketrans. You are materially no different than an hsts "boymoder" who self ids as a woman

how is that lumped in with men?
I said if you look and sound like a woman.
stop making shit up.

finally finds a girl that doesn't want to be beaten

she already has a bf

well I suppose that's to be expected. such a trait makes you highly desirable

because hsts are men, I am not a man

gays are allowed to be gnc grow up

what im materially does not matter. transgenderism is of the mind alone, so if i dont identify as a woman im not part of your cabal

hsts are men

wow, showing your bigotted side, huh?
agp and hsts are both women.
is this why you were banned?

Hsts often date other hsts cause they could not find love from cis man and they don't see other trannies as woman

they are, but they aren't women, and I won't pretend they are
You seem to be lost idiota. You are not transgender, that is my point.

idk why I was banned but I doubt it was that. And it's not bigoted its just true

^ding ding ding

i am neither transsexual nor transgender, im not hsts or agp im just a dude.

you take exogenous hormones of the opposite sex and suppress your natural ones, you are transexual lol

plenty of other cis men do so too. why is it ok for them to do that but not for me without being labeled transsexual

what are you even talking about. And why do you keep saying cis. Cis is short for cisgendered. I'm not calling you transgender. You are an hsts cisgendered transexual man

gay men are allowed to be gnc

gay men being more gnc than a literal tranny are women

I'm explicitly saying gay men aren't women you clearly have some kind of mental retardation. or are you esl?

gimme ur defs of transgender, transsexual etc real quick since they appear to differ from the percieved norm usage of the terms lol

Transgender - Gender Identity does not align with AGAB
Transexual - Person who uses medical processes to alter their physiology to more closely resemble the physiology of the opposite sex

You can be transgender and not transexual, think reppers. You can be Transexual and not transgender like hsts and hrt femobys.

i wouldnt call hrt femboys and such transsexual per se, as they neednt pursue the image of the opposite sex.

they do in all but sex organs

exogenous hormones of the opposite sex, transsexual

meaning person has modified their body to transition from one gender or sex to [another]

a gay man taking hrt to remain a cute twink is more gender affirming to being male than larping as a woman and is quite literally the opposite of being ‘transsexual’ there is no cisgender transsexuals. transsexuals are very obviously not their agab and gays and lesbians taking hrt are gnc++ > trans/cis

transition from one gender or sex to [another]

lol ur braindead, you can't transition genders medically, gender is not biological

agp rape hon projecting and seething

im both and im not a real woman

gender is not biological

u wat m8

i disagree. i was part of a community of gnc men for quite a while, a bunch of them were on hrt, and it really depended person to person. a lot of them just sought to express themselves authentically.

despite that, why cant both agp and hsts be women? isnt blanchardism somewhat outdated

yo are you stuck in 2010 this has been common knowledge for so long

why cant they both be women

Why can males who identify as men be women
why can't dogs be women
because words have meaning

gender is biologically modifiable and people transition from one gender to another all the time

see agps

so, so in 15 years, the notion of gender and sex has entirely changed? tell me more learned elder

no it isn't nothing and obviously people transition gender thats 1/4 of this boards name.

blanchard literally believes dysphoria is caused by AGP lmao. HSTS don't have dysphoria and remain men if they can't pass/wouldn't benefit them in getting more dick

medically transitioning gender

finally someone educated

words have the meaning we assign to them. gimme a definition of all women that doesnt exclude any exeption.

theres a reason for the chair argument.

also read the tlp, it might help u

gimme a definition of all women that doesnt exclude any exeption.

lmao are you twelve and just read your first philosophy text. what a dumbass criterion for a definition

you asked why men who id as women cant be women. both hsts and agp are men who id as women, i just dont see it

Any cis man can id as a woman, that doesn't make them a woman.

so, what makes someone a woman then? i mean it wont be identity, action appearently, but it isnt dysphoria either - dysphoria is quite easily induced and its symptoms are but indistinguishable from dysmorphia in certain cases. its just a run of the mill obsessive-compulsive and related disorders mental illness

it is impossible to ascertain whether or not someone is a woman with certainty only an omniscient being hic could peer into the mindstate of a person could decide that

is the category of "gender" not useless then, here, trying to decide whether hsts and/or agp are real women?

personally i find lables like this much more useful to relate lived realities to other people, and as both agp and hsts lived reality doesnt neccesairily differ all that much by that category alone i think it to be acceptable to shove em both in the same box, no?

we can't know for sure, but that doesn't mean attempting to gain insight is pointless.

Personally I find labels stupid. I would rather not identify with any labels at all. But 99.999% of humanity is NPCs who require labels to function so I have to use them

ah, thats fair then.

that doesn't mean attempting to gain insight is pointless

as the lived reality of each person differs and so on, doesnt that mean that self identification is among the best ways to get insights or so

yes, but I can still dispute it. unless they are a full on unabashed hrt flamer, even if someone is hsts i'd still use their proonouns and whatnot

very reasonable.
i still disagree w the take "hsts are men, agp are women" though, but i might just lack nuance.
getting people to think, question themselves, get into dialogue w their selves of their mind is certainly a noble cause

Yes, people are very oppositional to it though. I've lost tact over time so that may be part of it

counterargument:
AGP are trutrans, they do it for themselves
HSTS are faketrans trying to trick straight men and get laid

are you sure?

didnt read blanchard award

It's baffling to me how a newfag like me has a better grasp of Blanchard's typology than these people. Cognitive dissonance on another level

you are misinterpreting him too.

I think nether of those. I'm a straight agp

if your idea of blanchard is that agp are the only real women then clearly you didn't read it.
no tranny's a real woman, its just treatment for the mental disorder gender dysphoria, which can either manifest as homosexual transexual, or autogynephilia.
neither are women, its just treatment for a mental disorder, like giving antipsychotics to a schizo

I'm not a zealot. I expand upon it, build it up, improve on it.

none of us are talking to you newfag
im sure 196 will take you back if you ask nicely

duh. blanchard goes out of his way to say that transition can be useful for agps and hsts but you're still a deranged man in a dress both ways./

yeah thats exactly what i mean, neither are women, both are receiving treatment for a mental disorder

if a gay man wants to transition because it'll get him more dick, but he looks, acts, and sounds like a woman, is he not a woman?

i got curious and they are actual mtfs IDing as hsts
you guys aren’t supposed to take tranny astrology this seriously

i was just saying that saying one is trutrans and another is faketrans is insincere to blanchard's message. dysphoria can be improved upon for both causalities. i just interpreted trutrans as "has validity to transition" and faketrans as "does not have validity" because actual sex change essentialism is so far off the table w/ him

you agree with me which means you're very intelligent and cool and also probably sexy