You trannies are weak

You can't wrap your silly little heads around the idea that EVERY man on earth wishes he were a woman. You need to justify your own weakness woth your silly made-up notions of gender dysphoria, you give name and identify as disease something perfectly natural.
Yes, I wish I were a woman. Yes, seeing women do feminine things brings me pain because I could be doing the same things if I was a little more lucky at the start, but you made the wrong choice. I am not a "repper" as you call them, unless being a repper is synonymous with being a man. We all wish we were women. We all are a little jealous of women, straight, lesbian, doesn't matter. Who can just push the burden onto someone else and it's normal and a burden we have to bear.

Lmao i remember being in this stage of repression. Sad times

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I am not a repper

calls me a repper

explain ftms

This reminds me of people calling gay attraction "weakness". What if you're the weak one buddy? Sounds like you're scared to go against the grain like we're doing.

Except I always wanted to be masculine but my body just won't budge.

Literally no men think this

I am not a "repper"

suuure

bounce on my dick bbg let me feminize you for chad (me)

Resisting your weaknesses is strong
You are just being silly, if you ever became masculine you'd be crying to escape from it. Real masculinity is not Johnny Guilty Gear, but your 50 year old balding fatass father
I know at least three men who think this firsthand, we used to talk about it a lot in a summer camp like ten years ago.
I wish it were possible, but no. I was born a man and will die a man

Troons of a feather flock together. Also you can take hrt any time you want.

hrt make you pale weak gay and give you gyno, but it's all worth it to prevent balding

pale weak gay and give you gyno

That was puberty for me

i'm a big strong man, i choose to take on this burden for our society. this makes me virtuous.

man, stfu. suffering is not virtue, you faggot. doing what society wants is not virtue. why are men so fucking stupid.
you internalise all this bullshit and kill yourselves inside for others and then act smug about it. they won and you're smug.

Who would bring about the next generation if there were no men? Because if you were just allowed to decide you are a woman there would be no men whatsoever. Nobody wants to be a man. I get it, it's though. When my puberty started I couldn't bring myself to look in the mirror because I was disgusted with seeing a man, as long as I remember I have been feminine and wante breatss and to wear dresses and to act like a woman and raise children and whatnot, but it's just what you have to resist as a man, any man. I just grew past it

Ask your male friends if they wish they were women. Ask your dad and grandpa if they wish they were women

I asked my male friends if they wish they were women and they said yes. My grandparents are all dead and my father is a soulles psychopath so I don't take his opinion on anything very seriously. He genuinely finds Disney villains relatable and reasonable, so you know.

Men don't typically wish they were women, you're coping so hard that you're Narnia-deep into the closet

All the men I ahve actually asked about it do wnat to be women

you can at least try to make things better rather than conforming to a role designed to cause suffering, and then turning around and acting like you're doing anything other than being a little pussy ass bitch.
(this is assuming you're really not trans, and you're just like all those other internalised misandry retards who seem to want men to suffer because "me so strong and tough").
anon this doesn't mean anything. did your friends say that they longed to be women or that they couldn't stand their own reflections?
women also want to be men, in a casual way. "i could do go around seducing women, i'd be a total chad," "maybe people wouldn't overtalk me as much." it's just a fun what-if scenario, or escapism.

All men want to be women, literally everyone I've ask said they'd want to be a woman. It's just that I tend to ovethink things so of course I feel stronger than most about it. I can't just turn into a woman anwyays, what's the point of trying to be something I can never be?

people wouldn't overtalk me as much

I have never seen a woman get overtalked emanwhile it happens to me all the time. It's just delusional idealized voew of what being the other gender is like

I have never seen a woman get overtalked emanwhile it happens to me all the time. It's just delusional idealized voew of what being the other gender is like

yes lmao, exactly. and the same from men. that's where the desire of being male or female comes from in a cis person's eyes. what they don't do is avoid their reflection or long to be the other sex. they don't feel pain. maybe you are just overthinking it, idk. ik trans ocd can be a thing. but what you're saying is pretty sus.

They obviously do feel pain. You can't be happy with being a man, it's just a worse way to be. What is there to like about that. If I were at any point given a choice to be a woman I'd pick it. Women have it worse in many areas, but I believe being awoman is still infinitely better. The crippling jealousy I feel towards them is something I can't get over and it is ruining my life, I could survive periods or discrimination or whatever if it meant I could be happy again for the first time since my puberty started. But I can't change anything about that anyways and again, I am sure everyone feels that way. Why would you want to have a penis? Or not have breasts? Or the beautiful feminine voice? Why wouldn't you want to have a feminine body shape? I am a person who prizes aesthetics very highly and male body os downright ugly. My puberty was even worse, I genuinely hated being a dumb aggressive ape who lashed out for no reason and wanted to beat anyone who as much as looked at me wrong. I remember when I stopped being able to cry. Nobody likes this. Because this is vile, at its core

Exactly, and all women want to be men. It's an omnipresent "grass is greener" situation. That's why I'm not a repressing ftm, i'm a normal woman with normal female feelings

No, that's stupid. Only stupid sheltered women want to be men. Bring a woman is much better.

please copy paste this to your friends and ask if they feel the same way lol
you sound like such an agp saying this woman worshiping nonsense and crying about how t is poison...

same i was ana in puberty. at least i never had more than 1 tiny pimple at a time

Am I not allowed to hate what it has done to me? It is my genuine experience. I hate being a man. I love women, I rpefer their company, the only thing I got from men is getting fucked in my ass by some pedophile when I literally just became a teenager. I don't hate men or anything, I am one and if anything I pity that my fellow men have to suffer the same man as I. You are probably some "straight" trasbgender woman who gets off to how feminine she is by dating men. Most cisgender people hate you all the same

guilty gear cat meme

we know what you are alice

For the record I fucking despise Bridget and yes, I love cats. Toxoplasmosis mind control or something. I like Johnny though. I wish he would fuck me

Okay? That has nothing to do with masculinity

wdym? testosterone causes pimples and ana stunts growth.

Don't speak for me, repper.

Eh, not really. Sure, testosterone can cause increased pimples, but there are people woth extremely high testosterone levels who are completely fine and smooth. Ana stunts growth, sure, but not by as much as people imagine, as long as you aren't actively starving (as in on the evege of death) it's not that significant.

I'm a man and I have no desire to ever be a woman. You are a tranny if you think that. You are on the tranny board trying to convince yourself that you are not a tranny.

What, are you a man who doesn't want to be a woman? I'll believe it when I see it. Also not a repper.

Yes why the fuck would I want to be a woman?

inb4 they have it easy

They don't

I fucking despise Bridget

like clockwork

oh cool. i guess 16-17 bmi wasn't that low i guess i am just naturally this way.

You xannot realistically convince me you wouldn't want to have the peefect wide hips, breasts, voice... Woemn just look better, are a million times better presentation-wise. And they also get to do everything you could ever hope to do as a human being, their traditional social role, even if limiting is much more pleasant... I could go on for days or sell my left testicle for that

Wjat do you mean?

You're spiraling so hard that you can't even type properly. You're already a woman. Get on the bitchpills.

you hate bridget because her existence forces you to ask a question about yourself that you don't like the answer to. that's why you can't stop thinking about her. that's why you get so upset when i call her a womanly woman. that's why you buy into the grooming narrative so hard. you don't want to believe you're on the exact same course she is.
but you are.

I don't think she was groomed it's essentially detransitioning and it takes some genuine introspection for sure. I just hate her because hse has an annoying personality and is overrated. And British.
I am not a woman and will never be, because I am a man. I can't change what I am, even if I take female hormones.

I am not vain, I do not want to be pretty and my target partners cis women and trans women don't necessarily need that from me. And I would kill myself if I had a little bitch voice, boobs and so on. I would ask you what is stopping you from doing the things you want to do? Being a man is great being a woman would be terrible. I have one problem with being a man and it doesn't affect my life in any significant way.

stfu and take ur pills alice lmfao

I can't change what I am

Oh shut up. Think about what and who you were 5 years ago, did you look exactly the same? Quit the fucking excuses, you're only arguing with people on the internet as a proxy for arguing with yourself. What you're really looking for is for someone on this board to have the correct string of words to convince you to take your pills. I'm telling you to stop prolonging your suffering for no reason and just get on them already. To be clear, it is already too late for you. You are past the event horizon. You WILL transition, it's just a matter of how long you'd like to wait. You want to wait for your hair to start falling out before you take the pills? Be my fucking guest. But you were warned.

Because I want to be feminine and I can't be feminine. Actually no, not feminine, female. I want to have the female body, I want to be treated like a woman and I want to not have the memories of grwoing up male. None of these three are achievable, so I don't see a point in trying to lie to myself. Not to mention I'd love to be a mother but that's imposisble too.
They won't help, Satan

Iam just trying to prove my point, not looking for a reason to transition. Listen, I am happy for you if transitioning helped uou, but I can't imagine myself happy with such a life and frankly I see it as giving up and the easy way.

But you're trying to tell me that I want this too. I'm not convinced. Man the fuck up, do something with your life instead of fantasizing about things that will never happen. Make your life the one that you want to live. I believe that you can do it, anyone can.

You aren't understanding what I'm saying. You WILL transition. That is a fact. The question is when. The longer you wait, the worse it will be. The choice is ultimately yours. I'm also not a tranny myself, because I'm a normal man who has no desire to be a woman.

I don't want to man up. I want nothing more than to man down, besides you and you are probably just lying to get me to transition. At least Is nicer about it. Listen if I lived in some degen cyberpunk world where you can grow yourself a female body in a vat and jump right in I'd be delighted, but I don't live in such a world. Alas.

Listen to what I'm saying.
You are going to transition. The fact you made this thread is the final nail in the coffin. You are 100%, without any uncertainty, going to transition in your life time. I am only trying to convince you to do it sooner, before you end up a 34 year old ogre. Ignore that other retard. You WILL transition at some point in your life. End of. I know this for a fact. Just do it sooner so you can have a better outcome.

I came here to tell you that I don't want to be a woman, and I hope I never end up with a trans woman like you. Imagine being in love with a woman who doesn't even think she's a woman and transitioned for an easy life, I'd probably kill her and myself if I ever found out. Like a fucking shapeshifting alien or skinwalker, equal parts terrifying and disgusting.

The crazy part is you're actually on the exact same trajectory OP is and you're going to become a tranny too, you're just earlier on in the process. See you in 5 years, Alice.

I didn't traction and I sure as hell will not transition for an easy life. Being a woman is hard, equally if not even more hard than being a man. I'd still rather be awoman because that's what my soul resonates with. If you don't want to be a woman then you ars probably the anomaly.
I just want to be a woman. Why do I have to transitjon? Why did I get dealt such a shitty hand in life. I don't want to do any of this. Be a man, transition, not transition, suffer for the rest of my life...

Johnny mains are fucking retards, point discarded

You can be a woman. You can start tomorrow. I would URGE you to start tomorrow rather than waiting another year, two years, five. The earlier you start, the easier it is.

You're the anomaly, believe it or not most men do not want to be women, we all have our battles no matter what sex.

Sure thing groomer, whatever you say.

If I was born a woman I'd hang myself

OMG, Johnny Uni... So cool....

Waot you are serious? Then what was all that for? I have always wanted to be a woman so badly... I was ashamed of myself for being a boy, a man, I really knew something wasn't right. But I thought the feeling of wrongness wss universal, now as I read on the internet... am I transgender? Should I transition?
Is it really possible? To be a woman when you are born like this? To just end my two decades of noghtmares?

You know that most men like being men, right? There are even some men who would get offended at the idea that their manliness is a front and they'd rather be women. That's why so many men get mad at feminists: they say that "men aren't women" and "we don't secretly want to cry, we don't want to show our emotions, we don't have a secret inclination for femininity we're repressing." This isn't a direct quote but it's something I've read frequently from men online.
If everyone would secretly be women if they could, then trans men wouldn't exist, either.
God, you remind me of some repressed gay people who think same sex marriage should be illegal because otherwise the birth rate would collapse and no one would actually marry a man/woman instead of another woman/another man.

Yes. You can be a woman. There are entire communities who can help you along, or you can find the resources yourself. /hrtgen/ is right there in the catalogue waiting for you, if you'd prefer to start your journey your own way. You could become a woman right now, just by accepting your womanhood and working toward the body and future you want. And it'd make things a lot easier than if you started after three or four decades of pointless suffering.

The gay men comparision was genuinely very eye-opening. So do men not evennloke being feminine from time to time? They don't like crying? Is this why men in my environment always dodged heartfelt conversations? If this is the case then I don't know much about normal men
Thank you for giving me your time. I want to be a woman. I want to not only accept but nurture my womanhood. I got repeatedly scolded for being effeminate as a child and I suppose I just intenealized it ss gospel. That it's normal and men just hide it.

Then you are in my opinion a girl inside and I apologise for being rough with you. If you've always felt that way then you should probably troon out, I can't imagine how hard that is, sorry. No matter how difficult you thought being a man or woman is your life as a tranny is going to be much worse but I hope you find friends and a lover who accept and appreciate you as you are. Best of luck man.

You have a lot of baggage assosciated with both femininity and masculinity that you can examine once you're in a more comfortable place. Taking female hormones isn't just going to "give you gyno", it's much more than that. Mentally you will feel more clear and content as the pain of dysphoria (what you're experiencing) starts to lessen.

The gay men comparision was genuinely very eye-opening.

I'm glad. Sorry, I didn't read the rest of your thread at this point, so I was still talking to you as if you were still saying trannies are weak lol.

So do men not evennloke being feminine from time to time? They don't like crying? Is this why men in my environment always dodged heartfelt conversations? If this is the case then I don't know much about normal men

It was surprising for me to hear, too. I don't think this applies to 100% of men, but the kind of men who say this just assume they're the normal type of man - and I don't have statistics, but they're probably right, because most men I've talked to about this have basically agreed with the sentiment, even if there is a minority of more sentimental men who feel repressed by this environment.

grass is greener

No, it is me who should apologize. I was making outrageous statements and now I see it. You have helped me a lot. And don't worry about being rougu with me, it knocked some sense into me, even if in a roundabout way. Have a good life friend.
Sounds nice, I hope I get to experience that eventually.
And thank you too, it is probably why I agree with you now. It was just very difficult to imagine not feeling opressed by the masculine gender norms and everything and coupled with being forced to conform by my father like nothing was ever wrong, without batting an eye, I assumed it was just how it was.

Love you all guys and girls, thanks for everything. And to others who tried and failed to convince me before you. I feel so giddy right now, because the idea that I am a woman, at least internally is wonderful, simply the fulfillment of all my dreams. Thank you all so much.