Fundamentally trannies are not incongruent with conservative or liberal ideology

nta but I would like anyone to refute him (please reply to him not me)
So I can use that response to refute this 20iq nonsense.

LMAO
what a roast, hes dead

needs help refuting 20iq

I was using that anon's words kek
that was what he said lol

i call a midget short

he calls me short

i say “rich coming from a midget”

“i was using your words!!!!!”

Yeah, we understand what you were trying to do. Just any insult with the word “pretending to be” “trying to be” coming from you is a self own because youre a man pretending to be a woman.

I wish men would stop pretending to be women.

because youre a man pretending to be a woman.

Wut
you got the wrong guy
lol

yeah who the FUCK undid the seal

Trannies are largely victims of the liberal grift, namely that you can demand acceptance and that concessions are actually losses.
People like to talk about chuds eating up propaganda but trannies have largely done the same. In this case it is the line that "if you were a real woman you could play in women sports". It's why discussion has stagnated into what-is-a-womanism when that doesn't matter, whether or not you see trans women as women or not doesn't change the reality that trans women are by definition not cis women and never will be and it is from that point that these issues should be addressed.
Some members of this board do but it is inane to pretend that it is widespread. And though trannies often tell themselves this they usually do hold opinions and beliefs that are detrimental.
In fact the main narrative that trenders ruined trans optics is in itself a dangerous cope. It isn't just the strawmans that are the problem it is an entire mode of thinking that is prevalent across the trans community and has only become more ingrained as things have gotten worse.
Everything else aside even just the internal logic of this childish take doesn't hold up.
You wouldn't suggest that someone with anorexia could "just pretend they're eating a small meal". Or if you did you'd be laughed at for being a retard.

trannies are victims of conservatism, true liberals would simply accept them being gender non conforming and not ask them to transition to align with gender roles in the first place

blaming liberals for trannies is like the parallel universe version of mtfs calling out men for being misandrist towards them by describing those men as misogynist
you are trying to align with the prevailing currents, but in doing so make your statements illogical

our voices are silenced by the big media

No
The first thing that would happen is that you would be called a traitor or a pick-me.
Almost no trans will defend you.

That's why trans people and bad actors are always seen as one.

Real trannies do not transition for ideological reasons so the entire premise of your post is moot.

thats not true from my experience.

Anorexic people dont ask everyone to pretend theyre fat because they feel fat. They keep their delusion to themselves. Its why theyre pitied and you are reviled. Try following their example.

anorexic fighter attempts to enter heavyweight boxing competition while severely underweight

When i read this headline ill apologise for calling you a stupid nigger, you stupid nigger.

I'm not a tranny nor did I say that you or anyone had to pretend that they're women.
Notice how in this seething reply you didn't once actually refute what I said or defend your own logic, you just tried to weasel your way out by shifting.
There's that 20IQ I guess.

It is for ideological reasons. You have to be a woman cuz its not ok to be a feminine man and you agree with the people who believe that and are enforcing that belief on you causing you to conform via gender transition whereby you make your behavior and your appearance try to match instead of clash.

youre mixing up labels for the thing in itself which is ok because youre autistic but do better

gincel

Opinion in the bincel

The entire reply was a direct response to your retarded anorexia comparison. Kill yourself, nigger.

No it wasn't. It was taking a clear argument which is that you can't argue that someone with a dysmorphia condition can simply pick and choose where to pretend, and I demonstrated that by applying it the same logic to a different dysmorphia to make it more obvious, and then running away from your original point to create a strawman out of what I said so that you could change the argument to one you could win. That's because you know you were wrong and you can't defend your original point.
To put it simply, you argued that trannies can just choose to arbitrarily pretend. I said that was fucking retarded (because it is) and made it obvious by giving an example. You then tried to change the discussion instead of defending your original point.
So either defend your first post or admit you were wrong. Any other kind of reply just shows that they were right and you're a seething 20IQ baby and I'm going to ignore it.

not reading past the first retarded thing you said. my existence is compatible with any ideology. you just have to stop choosing to be retarded first

1. I am a girlmoder lel you got wrong type of tranny
2. Ad hominem
3. Generalization
4. False equivalency
5. Strawman
6. Trannies don't "believe they're women" (whatever that means) they have a neurological disconnect between what their body is and what they think should've been there, an anorexic has a disconnect between their perceived reality of their body and external perception of their body. "Pretending" is nothing but a buzzword that doesnt mean anything nor make any sense, but makes you feel vaguely smart because you're making a "gotcha" no one was ever asking or advocating for

Your comparison with anorexia is a retarded one because no one is asked to play along with an anorexic persons delusions about their being heavier than they actually are, in fact, they are encouraged to turn away from their delusions and towards reality.

Further, if you are not saying that an anorexic person weighs more than they appear to, that their perception of their weight is their actual weight, then by making an equivalence between your situation and theirs you are conceding that you are not actually a woman, just as they are not actually heavier than the scale says.

Due to you autism, you're taking the statement too literally. It is implied to end with "for all I care", or at least a wink. You think its a statement about the extent of a person's imagination when it is jsut a joke about the falsity of your womanhood.

It's as if I told you to take a long leap of a short pier and your response was "What pier? there isn't a pier within sight. We're miles from the sea, and jumping isn't permitted at the shortest pier within driving distance".

You aren't a woman, you are a man and pretending to be a woman, so take your lumps, use the mens room, and pretend its the womens room.

This is the meaning of my statement, to help you with your autism. You're getting hung up on the word "can" in a very literal, autistic way.

Try taking an actual philosophy course before throwing these terms around and revealling yourself to be a retard.

If my attacks on a tranny are "ad hominem" (ie to the man) you are saying that are a man. Which is amusing to me.

Again, if you are saying that an anorexic person's weight is what the scale says, not what their mind believes it is, then by making an rquivalence with them, you are saying that your gender is determined by "the scale" (in this case, your genitals, your body) and not your perception or wishes.

And again, we do not treat anorexic people by playing along with their delusions about their body. "Yes, you're right, you weight 4000 lbs you should starve yourself until you're skinny". So it's a terrible comparison to make for your own argument if you're not willing to say they weigh as much as they believe they do and the scales are mistaken.

I think you are the autistic one anon

bbut this HAS TO BE THIS anything disagreeing with me is deloosion everybody shares my views and perceptions no thats not delosionak troon im not delosional troon troon man in dress

I don't remember saying that anyone disagreeing with is delusional. But I do think you're just a man in a dress and not a woman.

Since you're saying an anorexic person is mistaken about their self image, and making an equivalency with the trans experience, I suppose you're also saying your self image is a delusion.

Pity for you you can't delete posts I guess.

Republican trannies like myself are the only sane trannies out here. No the sports issue and the non passing freak issue literally turned everyone against us.

lily tino and dylan mulvaney caused most of this along with that trans congressman and drag queen story time. Thanks faggots for literally ruining life.

Are you against gay marriage?

are a man

first, esl, your opinion doesnt matter shitstained untermensch

Again, if you are saying that an anorexic person's weight is what the scale says, not what their mind believes it is, then by making an rquivalence with them, you are saying that your gender is determined by "the scale" (in this case, your genitals, your body) and not your perception or wishes.

Strawman. What trannies and anorexics share, is a dissonance between what their body "is" and what "it should be". However, in case of a pre-tranny tranny this is not delusional, as their objective perception of their body agrees with the external perception, while in an anorexic these do not match.
Your whole argument is based on the misconception (intentional or not) that trannies share both of these things with anas rather than only one
I'd tell you to take a reading comprehension class but i don't think your 2000 rupees pay would allow for it.

man pretending to be woman

I mean yeah, i am ftm girlmoder

ESL? I'm Germanic stock and write circles around you.

I never made the original comparison between anorexics and trannies, though I think its apt in that they are both delusional. I was just inviting the person who made the comparison to consider how unflattering a comparison it is to make, given that it invites this comparison: that they are both delusions. And they are.

if not for the problem of my body, I'd be a woman.

Except that in the absence of your body, you are nothing. You are your body.You have never existed independtly of your body. Try typing your next reply to me without the use of your body.

It's not a misconception that you are alike an anorexic person in that your self image is based on a delusion. It's something you have exactly in common. Your self image is distorted (ie dysmorphic) because it is a departure from reality. It would not be dysmorphic if were based in reality.

You are a man pretending to be a woman, whether or not you realise you're pretending. I suspect you do know you're pretending, because you'd have no reason to envy actual women if you were one. And yet you do. ANd your comparing me to an Indian bears no weight with me because I know what I am, and you're welcome to continue on that same retarded joke as much as you like. But my reminding you you're a man is painful enough to you that you have to keep coming at me for saying it, and its painful because of how true you know it to be.

Same difference.

saar show hand saar
the only thing that makes circles here is your logic. You've been repeating same shit message after message. It almost feels as if your brain short circuited. You aren't even making any type of sense, nor are you trying to make a new argument, except strawman paired with an argument that would get you kicked out of any hs freshman philosophy class.

I apologize, """"""argument""""" because i can't even call it one without getting genuine brain damage

Lecturing me about logical fallacies and talking in circles while you repeat the same retarded joke about me being Indian. Nice work, faggot :D

Check this out: I'm an Indian, I come from India and I eat curry all day and work at a scam call centre.

You try saying "I'm a man pretending to be a woman". You won't do it because your insults are meaningless to me and mine are painful to you. If they're not, then repeat them yourself.

You are a man pretending to be a woman. Nothing you ever do or say will change that.

Since you're a man pretending to be a woman I think any question of brain damage is moot at this point.

If you aren't your body, reply to this post independently of you body.

anon just know that I support you and what you are doing is brave
trannies are INSANE and aggressive and standing up to them is hard

It's easy, it's just tedious. But cheers.

mentally its draining to have these people who won't listen to reason and are so convinced of their actions

Had trans people largely defended the status quo

Status quo don't work for me tho. What status quo could I defend? Im a black tranny so that just means upholding a system that won't work for me. Seems dumb. Civil rights, people.

mental disorder

Hasn't been considered a disorder or illness since 2017-2018 or sumn

go back to africa monkey

But if I go back to Africa, who is going to make all your slang, dances, trends, and new music genres?

black women imitate gay men
I would welcome a world without "hip hop"

not reading past the first retarded thing you said

literally just reiterates the first thing I said because you're too retarded to read

Oh no no no

Your comparison with anorexia is a retarded one because no one is asked to play along with an anorexic persons delusions

Literally once again doing the exact same deflection. Lol.

black women imitate gay men

This actually the other way around, since black women have a higher population. Really these gay men are taking behavior and mannerisms from black trans women in ballroom scenes and cis women on the side.
You would also have to give up country, blues, RnB, funk, house, rock, jazz, techno, n more

Repeat
Repeat
Repeat
Holy retardation

anorexia is like trooning

NO NO NO NOT LIKE THAT

You are a man pretending to be a woman. You're not going to be able to argue your way out of that.

I find it nourishing. When you speak truthfully you touch God. Reminding a troon they're a man pretending to be a woman is like praying on a mountaintop without the walk.

God

oh no its retarded
:(
ur both dogmatic yet fighting for the same thing ultimately

1. Samefag
2. Ironic, because it seems that your whole argument is based on repeating 3-4 gotchas ad nauseam

If you asked me what two plus two was over and over I would say four each time, not minding how repetetive I was or wasn't being.

For example: you are a man pretending to be a woman. You will never be a woman, and no one if your life will ever genuinely believe you are a woman. They will condescend to you out of pity, or hoping that you will return the favour, or just wanting to avoid conflict.

since black women have a higher population

but they are dumb and have no culture
gay men are smart and creative and expressive
black women imitate that
gay men are often consigned to the bottom of the social ladder - where more blacks are found

Aand another repeat. With more and more posts, you're just convincing everybody around you that you're a shitskin that was taught to repeat a couple same topics over and over without any comprehension of what you're even saying. See, you haven't disproved my arguments at all. Just seethe, and seethe.

trans women are men pretending to be women

I am ftm. Female to male. Afab to male. Woman to man.
How retarded can you be? Is your underdeveloped chimp brain unable to comprehend anything past troon troon man in dress troon?

You are a nigger pretending to be human, so we're even

trans women are men

t. chimp

you will never be a woman, socially, visually, or otherwise

White gays are making culture alright, I just don't think you want it

Most people will agree that a vulnerable group of people with a mental disorder need provision in order to accommodate them.

They can't. Undesirables must be purged. Conformity must be maintained

Obstensibly, what difference does it make? You can't become a man any more than a man can become a woman. I can't tell which type of retarded faggot you are over the screen, but I know that either way you're retarded.

AHA! I'm not the guy who believes he can shoot laser beams out of his right hand, I'm the guy who believes he can shoot laser beams out of his LEFT hand.

This is how you sound to a sane person right now.

Funnily enough a chimpanzee can tell you're a man in a dress. As can a dog, a young child. A blind person, even your phone can tell. It doesn't take a high IQ to surmise that you're a fraud, and it is a waste of a high IQ to try and make your delusions real. "Knowledge without wisdom is folly doubled" Grazian tried to warn you.

Having a high IQ and devoting it to this faggotry is even stupider than being stupid. And that's if I'm being generous enough to accept the premise of your being high IQ to begin with. I'd be surprised if you were over 110 fro the way you speak.

Stop sperging lil bro. You made a shitty post and got dunked on for it, take your L. I have no interest in debating you on anything else. You can't even handle the slightest bit of push back so there's no point.

Basic in the day the classic transsexuals did exactly what you wanted. They knew they had a mental disorder, got medically transitioned, and tried to assimilate into society.

It's only the newfag troons since 2010, that they started making identity politics into a big issue.

Buck Angel warned us about this, and he was right.

trans women look like men
trans men look like women
a man having sex with buck angel is as straight as a man having sex with any other female

trans men look like women

Idk about that

I think you're right except that it is new troons. There's a large age range on both sides.

not enough information to decide, if you saw an ftm in person next to a real man, it would be clear which is which, or even better, an ftm standing next to an mtf, then the jig is really up

You are a man pretending to be a woman. I can understand your hesitancy to defend something we both know to be false. You know it's a delusion, you want me and others to play along with it. But I'm not going to, because we both know it would be false.

You're a man and will never, ever be a woman. You have my permission to throw every insult under the sun my way. You will never devise any string of words that effects me like my simple reminder to you: you will never be a woman.

Maybe if they're early on T lmao
Height doesn't count for much since I know cis men shorter than me and I'm 5'3. And once someone has been on T for +5 years you'd look crazy trying to call them out.

ywnbam and you are a man in dress in same post

Just take the L.

waow thank you i feel so heckin valid rn :DD

If it were an L, you'd have changed genders. You haven't.

Here's some gold, faggot.

write me a recipe for the boomer facebook chudding mr not a bot

Post a selfie and let's see how well you pass. :)

nta but posting selfies on Anon Babble is retarded