your srs/ffs/vfs/wtf consultation is like a job interview. you need to show up properly voicetrained, in good health, with a full face of natural makeup along with appropriate perfume and decent non fetish attire. no manmoding/boymoding/facial hair allowed.
the name of the surgeon plays a big part of your results too but if you can’t show him or her you’re putting effort at your pre and post ops, he or she won’t bother trying with your case.
Your srs/ffs/vfs/wtf consultation is like a job interview. you need to show up properly voicetrained, in good health...
Where's my rope
that explains y he took like 7 hours for my ffs that was planned to be 5,5 hours
t. skinny and voicetrained
Also they can deny you for being a cutfag since they deem you unstable for post-surgery. :/
no shit. everythig is a job interview except you pay them.
t. going to consultation after therapy tomorrow.
being hsts is all that matters. androphiles get good results.
this. i always brought my boyfriend with me to any consults. be just a little flirty with the surgeon too maybe, assuming he's male
My ffs experience was kinda shit because of this. At least I went in with female clothing but I hadn't voice trained much so I got a shitty experience.
T.Voice hon
there really is just no way out if you can't pass is there? no one wants to help you if you don't look trans enough to them. no one even sees your dysphoria as real
im a young shit stealthoid and my vagina came out cis looking. it's not super deep tho
i mean if ur a gigahon ffs won't safe u and noone will fuck u ever anyways so who cares if the neovag is botched
Did my FFS surgeon give me a meme result?
what if needing ffs is all that stops you from passing but your face is so ugly and repulusive looking that no one is willing to do a good enough job to fix it
if ur face is that uggo it's unsavable, see lillytino. got totally botched but who cares cuz his face can't be safed anyways and he refuses to voicetrain or act less male
I've never seen anyone who FFS saved from not passing. The kind of hons like that are usually 6 feet tall and have an unmistakably male voice ontop of other things
can this still happen if it's been 3+ years? it'll be even longer by the time I get any surgeries, but I worry about it a lot cuz they'll be there forever.
true. it's really sad seeing these guys that don't pass at all obsessing over having a $20K bank pussy, like you have bigger problems buddy lmao
I am a voicehon but I'm 172cm and I seemed to pass visually most of the time, but now after reading those threads, I'm convinced that my FFS surgeon did a subpar job for me because I went to my consult with a deep voice.
I'm a cutfag and had no issue with this like ever.
I mean if you pass and like how you look that's all that matters.
It's actually not an issue. They most likely post-pone your scheduled operation because they have other priority patients.
what if you're a passable height with a smallish frame, voicetrained and you just have an extremely clocky masculine face after years on hrt
I don't think I pass because I see a man in the mirror and also passgen sometimes says that I don't pass. The last time I got misgendered without talking was like a year ago but that was before surgery, it seemed to happen occasionally so that's why I had it. I'm super depressed now though.
I mean that's a given. One of the first things they ask for people to be operated on is not be overweight.
Maybe, but honestly if you have a completely female sounding voice you can get away with having an ugly masculine face. People will just see you as an unfortunate cis girl.
You should just focus on working on your voice, you probably look fine.
Last year I got VFS and then FFS as a 6 year boymoder.
I dressed basically like a teenage boy, used a male voice the entire time.
I got VFS at Yeson in Korea, and then FFS in Mexico.
Everyone was incredibly supportive in both places despite the fact that I did not pass at all.
Though, it may have just been the fact that they could easily tell that I had great potential to be a passoid.
I think that it's different when you're getting surgeries that help you pass versus stuff like BA and SRS.
I definitely would not have pursued SRS or BA looking the way I did a year ago - it would have been humiliating in the extreme.
But now that I pass well, I have the confidence to pursue them without hesitation or insecurity about how I appear to others.
thats.... not a good thing to take longer lol
tbf having a botched vag is personal life ruining even if you never have sex its really bad just existing with
My ffs was botched
it is lol, he took longer to be more precise and careful. a surgeon taking his time means he cares more about ur looks than his time
if you're a man, sure
but rlly like it's always the biggest hons who rush srs. and like i don't get it, being a girl with a dick is much better than being a man with a neovag
kek?
7 hours?
Mine took like 9 LOL. I didnt even get trach shave, lip work, or any hairline advancement.
my nose and side profile are amazing and my jaw is looking really good so far as it heals.
7 hours?
it's a random guess, i only remember it being dark when i woke up, and when i woke up they were still putting bandages over my nose. surgery started at 13:30, was in the middle of summer too so just took rlly long. don't get what's so funny about it tho, ffs just takes long
I didnt even get trach shave, lip work, or any hairline advancement.
me neither
surgury started at 1330
LOL
what's funny?
when timelines collide
its like 2 alternate realities converging at once in same spot of the ether
The assistant of the surgeon talked a lot to me about sex and especially dicks. Never even asked what I like. If you are a young passoid you are automatically assumed to be hsts
I went to the best without makeup with 4 star hotel(parents paid for the room and the flight to California they have old money a lot of it lmao) bed hair, no makeup(I don't wear makeup it is dirt and I do not put dirt on my face fucktards that's why you have acne and other issues) and I don't voice train my voice never changed, and the surgeon didn't care so I guess I just pass very well but see I want to stay looking hot and that is my issue old age freaks me out….
I think to get around this break surgeries up into smaller parts.
Get what you need most, say VFS if honvoice, then go ask for the other stuff once you already look good