Can even one trans woman explain to me how they are actually a woman? I am trying to be open minded but I don't get it. You have a dick, and balls, and xy chromosomes, but youre a woman? I like trans women and think they are very pretty but I just can't see them as being women. If they were I wouldn't like them. Can you guys explain please
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really whether or not we're woman really depends on definition
all of us identify as women. if womanhood is based on self-id then all of us are women. a lot of us inhabit the female social role and are treated as society as female. and if that's how you define it then we're women. some of us depending on age of transition have more or less experienced being socialized as female. a portion of us have two X chromosomes because intersex disorders have a high occurrance in trans women. etc etc.
What do you think the female social role is? Do you care for and nurture your family? When is the last time you cooked your kids dinner?
im an intersex trans female, my chromosomes are xxy. i have a dick & balls, but also some underlying structural parts of female genetalia. ive known smth was up since childhood. i started hrt at 24, ive been on hormones for nearly 4 yrs, started passing since right before the first yr. i never got a strong male puberty, but my female puberty has been incredibly strong & transformative. i look like my mom when she was in her 20s now, she couldve been a model. my voice has always passed, even before. nobody new in my life knows, thus im treated as a woman in every way by those around me. i know that im a woman in the same way u know ur a man. i always had to try to be a guy & understand guys, never had an issue the other way around. i also only ever come back here once or twice a yr. i constantly feel a biological motherly urge, id love nothing more than to settle down w/ a man someday & bare his children, but since that isnt possible, ill do what i can. my hormones levels have been entirely cis female range since a yr into medically transitioning, i have far more female secondary sex characteristics than male ones. testosterone was awful for my mental health, i dont have mental health struggles anymore. only worrying abt losing access to hormones & even diy. nearly no male friends, whole friend groups of female friends. those are the grounds im presenting.
Not all trannies think, "I am a woman"
If anything, it's, "I don't feel like a man so I must be a woman" or "wearing dresses helps me GOOOOOOOON'
What parts of you resemble female genitalia?
So if a trans woman has tits, wide child bearing hips, soft and supple skin, some cushion for the pushin, has her pedi and mani, dolled up, round elbows, youre going to tell me that 9" wiener schnitzel and your 23 and me dna test will be the determining factors of whether shes a woman or not? You are clearly delulu.
I guess I can't get over the way that they all are technically male and don't really have a vagina or anything. I mean yeah they can be cute but it's just hard to pretend it's a girl if that makes sense. Like why would a woman have a penis and balls if the point of a woman is to have kids
Dude she will tuck it and it will be cute. And sex is not about having kids. Heres a crash course youtube.com
if you arbitrarily define men as women, or anyone with female secondary sex char. as a woman, or anyone men want to fuck as a woman, they are women, otherwise they are men.
Trans women are men pretending to be women.
That doesn't really relate to what im saying
Its been settled
I'm not actually a woman, I just really want to be one and try to get as close as possible.
I still want to be treated and referred to as one socially though
anything I want to fuck is a woman, simple as.
self hating gay people making up worlds to justify having sex with other men
gender is something that is applied to others by an observer; it's a system of labels we use to group others. you see someone who to you looks female and you assign to them the gender woman, which is associated with socialization, interests, etc. so if someone looks at me and subconsciously labels me a woman, then in that moment i am a woman. which i think happens occasionally, since i malefail. it's either that or they can smell that i'm a tranny somehow despite my usual garb being a graphic tee and sweatpants
if you use woman to mean female then hrt modifies secondary sex characteristics, which as you can tell by the name are sex characteristics. an mtf on hrt is more female than a cis man who isn't on hrt unless you're really adamant about sex being completely binary. i think the outlook of seeing sex as completely binary is pretty stupid considering intersex people exist. trans exclusionaries usually say something along the lines of
don't co-opt intersex people!
but that's a deflection rather than a refutation
however if you use woman to mean a class instead of a gender then no i'm not even fucking close LOL there is no girlhood trauma here, just the trauma of growing up with gender dysphoria
This cringey self insert shit from picrel where you pretend youre a "chad" because you have to resort to fucking men is the worst. You are a small probably skinny loser who fucks men that call themselves women in the man ass
you clearly have never had a hot transsexual woman let you get near her. ive fucked plenty of cis women and having anal sex with proper transsexual women is identical to anal with cis women. you do know their downstairs smells like pussy when on hormones, right? that they have the same skin texture and pleasure zones, right? that they have the same fat distribution as a cis females ass, right? no, you wouldnt know that, virgin.
This
is identical to anal with cis women
except the male body
bro does not understand biology at all lol. no, hormones dont do nothing.
LOL dude this is literally how faggots describe gay sex to straight men, do you realize that?
hey bro a mans mouth feels just like a womans mouth
You are a faggot.
You are a faggot.
nuh uh the penis is female
They literally believe this lol. Trannies and their pathetic orbiters believe this
its true
estrogen makes the penis a female organ
Ik youre trolling but seriously imagine living in a mind that thinks this
bro thinks paper is still a tree.
so you cant tell the difference between male and female ass? when i describe a circle as round, no it isnt square, retard.
Humans have a sex drive and sex reflexes. And you associate that with wanting to have kids. But in reality it is a result of evolution. Those men that wish to have sex with women would have a chance of propagating their genes. So how do you tell a man apart from a woman? (Before humans had a language and speech, they would not say man or woman; it would be your intuition and instincts which is very important here) Well assuming people are in the nude before humans were civilized you could say a vagina, in particular the vulva, would be one of the things required besides selective mating possibly. But as humans clothed themselves you have to rely on other traits that indicated they possessed a vagina. And to make it even easier, gender roles were devised as a way to find or give purpose to the world around them which in turn also makes it easier to distinguish between the two. But you think if a trans woman actually looks like a woman while hiding her bulge both dressed in clothes conforming to the female gender role and out of it and you feel attracted to her then you have the instincts, sex drive, and sex reflexes that is attracted to what humans have ascribed as having a vagina. Now all I have to contend with his the fact she does not have a vagina. That lies in your definition which came after the instinctual drive to find her attractive.
transbian psyop detected
opinion discarded
trans women are women and look female
Many people are saying this
and they're all right
Based!
500 million cis women arnt women huh?
im an intersex trans female, my chromosomes are xxy
none of that is true and moreover each seperate statement contrdicts each other
"Cis" is a word that makes you visibly transgender even when people can't physically view you.
It's not helpful.
I like trans women and think they are very pretty but I just can't see them as being women
trans women
women
maybe you should refer to them as trannies or trannoids or troons and use masculine pronouns then
Hormones are reality and determine all sex differentiation besides genitals
I was born without a functional hormonal or reproductive system
Ive taken both T and E. Its been clear to me that my genitals are far less important to how my body develops and how the world interacts with me than whatever primary sex hormones I'm taking.
what about chromosomes?
Hormones determine secondary sexual characteristics, which, you may get a cue, are SECONDARY, meaning less important than PRIMARY sex characteristics (your reproductive system)
+ i forgot to reply to this retard. Humans have evolved to wear clothing for an eternity and the oldest piece of art in existence is a fertility idol depicting a woman with huge boobs