I have never met a normal person that identifies as this. I know there are normal gays, lesbians, bisexuals, and transexuals. And the definition is so broad as to exclude no one. That's a good sign it's a special snowflake term instead of a description of something real. I have also never seen anyone give a biological explanation for this.
So is this BS like nonbinary?
my sister
if someone is a self described asexual they're either
broken sexually cause traumatized from rape or something
coping that theyre not an incel cause they don't want it
using it as a cover for their actual sexuality, which is usually pedophilia
not like the other girls attention seeking
I have also never seen anyone give a biological explanation for this.
Aren't monks technically anti-romantic and anti-sexual? That makes them aroaces.
You've never met a normal volcel? The vast majority of priests are chill, but maybe I'm biased since I live in rural Italy.
I have never met a normal person that identifies as this.
I have never met a normal person that "identifies" themselves.
So is this BS like nonbinary?
Yes. Same goes for any other "identity".
Aren't monks technically anti-romantic and anti-sexual? That makes them aroaces.
Monks have them. They just repress them.
You are also implying that is is not some fixed biological condition like gay, lesbian, bisexual, trans, but just a mental state that can pass. People are not born as monks. And if they become one they can stop being one.
Monks have them. They just repress them.
They repress romantic thoughts.
Unless you have a romantic partner, you are aromantic.
Aromantic is part of the asexual indentity.
Having sexual thoughts doesn't mean that you support them. People who get raped have trauma and even if they want to fuck they'll get the heebie-jeebies. Same goes for (some) ftms.
Some will accept that sex is not good for them and refuse to have it.
Some people may be pessimists and just refuse to accept that love exists.
You are also implying that is is not some fixed biological condition
Yup. I don't deny that it could be a symptom of some other condition.
Trauma, internalized homophobia, etc.
I would add that I don't think that there is any fixed biological condition. People become gay at age 50, having kids and a wife. They just stop being straight.
like gay, lesbian, bisexual, trans
trans
I wouldn't call trans a fixed biological condition. GD is a fixed biological condition which can be "healed" through pimozide, prozac or affirmative care.
In other words, trans, just like asexuality, is just a cope for gd, while asexuality is a cope for trauma.
People are not born as monks
Neither they are born trans, since gender identity is formed around 5 years of age.
And being a monk is a frame for a variety of beliefs which, put together, makes you a monk. A catholic guy who believes in God but disagrees with the Catholics doesn't stop being a theist when he stops being a catholic.
Which is to say, the monk who stops being a monk could have done so because he wanted to be sexually involved, but he could also be so asexual that even the thought of being in a room of men repressing their sexuality makes him puke.
And if they become one they can stop being one.
Just like detranners exist. You really think that all the tiktok ROGD ftms aren't trans, even if they will easily get a diagnose by a medical professional? That's just a no true scotsman fallacy right there.
In other words, trans, just like asexuality, is just a cope for gd, while asexuality is a cope for trauma.
Poorly worded, sorry
In other words, trans is just a cope for gd, while asexuality is a cope for trauma*
GD is a fixed biological condition which can be "healed" through pimozide, prozac
me when I make shit up
I am a very normal asex gay I just really love romancs and affectionate bonding stuff and don't care about getting things in my butt
You fucking retarded moron. Transvestic fetishism is not gender dysphoria. Read a fucking book and then kys
Every ace I've met has either been an ugly dyed hair theyFAB, or a pissant faggot of a numale. A lot of them being LARPers or TTRPGers.
People say its a cope but idk I’m getting a lot done here. Why do you NEED sex, isn’t there a more productive use of your time? Are you really making so many babies?
I identified as ace for the largest part of my life, I genuinely had no interest in sex whatsoever. My libido was normal too, I would masturbate from time to time out of boredom but it was never a big thing.
Transition changed that. Not feeling shame and disgust for my body anymore, feeling more comfortable in my skin and having people show desire for me... turns out my asexuality was a combination of dysphoria and tactile defensiveness (I have autism).
But that doesn't mean I wasn't actually asexual, I effectively was. It wasn't a cope. Sexuality is fluid and things can evolve.
I concede.
The DSM V distinguishes between transvestic fetishism and autogynephilia.
I was wrong.
I have no excuse except for that I remembered it to be transvestic disorder, not transvestic fetishism.
While I was looking for another article, in case I didn't post the right one, I found this one. Read it, it is quite interesting.
sciencedirect.com
Diagnostic subtleties and all, this guy might actually have ROGD.
Then pimozide and maybe even lexapro?
The issue with non affirmative care is that it doesn't exist. Not even something that disproves it.
I can only post case reports, which are few and don't prove anything outside individual results.
It's traumatized autistic gays trying to score social brownie points by proclaiming themselves not sexually deviant and pure.
As well as an extreme variant on the pansexual concept of "im not like the other gays, im into your personality, not just looks"
genuinely had no interest in sex whatsoever
. My libido was normal too, I would masturbate
Every fucking time. The porcupine’s dilemma is not asexuality folks
You're--they're trying to prove a negative, like nonbinary, I guess.
This is rather difficult, since we don't assume everyone is nonbinary or asexual, then wait for positive evidence that they have a sexuality or gender. We assume people are without any sex dysphoria and are heterosexual, instead (sloppy presumption but works a lot of the time).
So, given all that, we have to work backwards and prove someone is nonbinary or asexual through contradiction, which is difficult.
I've seen examples of asexuality in AFaBs, though. You can observe them for years and have never wanted physical access to someone else's body or someone to access theirs.
Asexuality = no sexual attraction to other people
That's it, that's the definition. Notice how there is no mention of masturbation. I had a feminization fetish (AGP I know), but I had zero interest in doing that with someone else.
but in reality its just autistic closeted gays trying to virtue signal how sexually pure they are because society values not having too much sex
blah blah but the words mean
yeah just like tranny means "a man woman" but its not a real thing
Well, I know there are AMaBs that get the urge but no target. Some put on porn to feel normal but it's not there to help move things along.
So, masturbation is just stratching an itch to no functional visual stimuli at all and the reward is feeling climax and then some peace of mind for a while.
thanks anon your explanation is really good but you better stop replyin to this person is clearly a troll and pretty much did this thread to be ragebait
Well, I know there are AMaBs that get the urge but no target
because they are repressing their homosexuality
most men are straight
most women are not ok with dating other women despite being bi
you are literally a gay poo poo sex haver or a delusional faggot on hormones
and you are gonna come after me for... not being attracted to people? Get a fucking grip
u just don't admit ur gay and think ur purer than others for not having sex and want to broadcast that
whatever faggot I'm still not having sex tho
Demisexual here. I just don't feel any sexual or romantic attraction until I've formed a deep emotional bond with someone. Porn does nothing for me and I don't feel like I'm sexually attracted to people I see, even if I can identify them as sexually attractive. But I have had sex and enjoyed it, it's just not something I actively desire. I've been this way my entire life and as a result, felt really alienated from society most of my life.
because you have internalized homophobia, not because you have some innate different sexuality that ACTUALLY makes you not have sexual thoughts at all, you've just been repressing them since ever since gay is not tolerated
I think there are a lot of "real asexuals" out there who don't identify as asexual. The people who actively identify as ace are attention seekers.
Like, I get horny. I'm sexual, but I've been alone for so long that the thought of being romantically committed and living with somebody seems foreign and scary to me. Also, I don't want the burden of children. I wouldn't ever call myself asexual, but I'm sure the whole "not wanting to be with someone and not wanting to breed" thing makes me a genuine asexual.
Pre-adolescents discover masturbation without sex target. Just because it tickles in a funny way.
It's perfectly possible for someone to stay in this limited little world of direct stimulation without even the concept of other people involved, growing up but not developing psychosexually at all.
I will make my homophobia overt and externalized just for you, precious AIDs victim
me mememememmemememememememememememm
it already is overt and externalized, any sort of non-gay queer identities are designed by women to function as anti gay cudgels to keep gays repressed and self hating
women live in perpetual fear of actual gay liberation
what're your hormonal levels like?
has your thyroid been checked?
having a low libido doesn't mean you're some entirely new sexuality. it usually reflects a chemical inbalance in the body. if you don't want to fix it, then that's your choice. understand, it isn't some entirely new sexuality. that's some 13 year old tumblrina bullshit like crystals giving off special energy.
okay faggot good luck raging against the matriarchy while I continue to not have sex
Asexual pussies crave my cock. Stuffing asexual pussies with my thick meat.
I pretend to be asexual because it's way easier than having to tell my partners that I have an extreme sadism fetish and can't perform sexually because I get off to guro and real life rekt webms.
I've had bloodwork done pre-HRT a couple times, my levels have always been fine. I don't show any signs of hypothyroidism and I don't have some sort of sexual trauma.
Labels like asexual, aromantic and demisexual exist so we feel seen and we can share our experiences, so we don't feel so alone in how we feel. Because we get called broken and get subjected to sexual assault and corrective rape. Which is apparently necessary, because most of this thread doesn't even understand it's a matter of attraction, and less whether we are sexually active or not.
must terrify females that there are males that won't do ANYTHING to spoil them with attention and resource access... how can you control him...
he and his kind must be conditioned to serve the uterus
Also worth mentioning: I don't even actively identify as demisexual. I just bring it up to educate people. Making any part of your gender, sexual orientation and attraction the center of your identity isn't something I vibe well with.
I mean, do you ever want sensual access to someone else's body?
theyfab
/rolls eyes
I just bring it up to spread misinformation for clout
ftfy
Since when do asexuals get subjected to corrective rape?
Where did I say I'm a theyfab? I'm straight and mtf.
ok
NOOOOO I MUST HAVE SEX OTHERWISE I'LL GO FUCKING INSANE
t. asexual
we've gotten to the point in society where "not being a whore" is a sexuality
I would imagine a lot of human history and prehistory is a great number of asexual AFaBs getting THE PLAP because the AMaB wanted it and he's the one moving things along, so her lack of sexuality was irrelevant.
it's always been like that tho. Society is disgusting and filled with sluts who can't even conceive that some people may not want anything to do with their slutdom.
Taken from "Sexual Violence Against the Asexual Community" from mcasa dot org:
Although there is limited research on Asexual survivors of sexual assault, the 2015 Asexual Community Census Summary Report found that:
• 35.4% of Asexual participants reported having sexual contact including groping or kissing that they didn’t consent to/were unable to consent.
• 18.5% of Asexual participants reported having had sex due to social pressure from a partner.
• 43.5% of Asexual participants reported having experienced sexual violence.
Ace survivors are commonly subjected to corrective rape. Corrective rape occurs when the offender seeks to "fix" or "correct" someone's sexuality by assaulting or raping them based on their abusive beliefs towards people who are not heterosexual. This form of assault is used as a punishment by attempting to "teach a lesson" to Asexual survivors.
Since forever. There is pressure to have sex. Just look at the reactions in this thread.
The difference between being asexual and "not being a whole", is that the "not whore" experienced sexual attraction.
Right? How is the idea of not experiencing sexual attraction so wild to these people?
It's funny they think they are doing something with their conversion therapy tier rhetoric. All they are doing is convincg me that it's important to stand my ground as an aceCHAD.
OK, I stand corrected. I still don't think "pressure" alone is sexual assault though.
guys get no pussy: women make fun of them by calling then incels
women get no dick: they act like they're some special new sexuality that they totally didn't make up at the turn if the century arbitrarily
you're not demisexual. you libido is nuked from low t / low dht. you sound like a pretentious prison gay.
I wasn't talking about asexuality. That anon posted about being demisexual and that is literally just "I'm not a gooner who wants to fuck everyone I lay eyes on" - the sexuality, and should be the default and the norm in society.
I always thought "demisexual" was your normal AFaB "scenario-dependent trust-powered sexuality" they tend to have.
Some will just go with demi's supercategory, "bi".
The question is whether this sexuality is universally female and we just slut-train girls into feeling a cognitive reward for sluttery but they were a demi, normal-ass girl before society's influence.
my doctor said my levels are good!
sure. for a post menopausal woman in her 60's that doesn't fuck anymore. realize that's the standard that endo's strive for.
Again, my T levels have been fine my entire life, and my T levels aren't exactly nuked now - last blood test revealed it was at 1.9 nmol/l. I've never been low DHT either - my hairline had receded by the time I was 16 and I needed hair transplantation. And I am on prog, which usually fires up the engines for most transfems. But guess what? It didn't for me, despite my levels being fine. I do not have any imbalances. I'm perfectly sound on a chemical level.
Last blood test it my E2 was at 512 pmol/l, so that's not it either. You guys REALLY wanna blame it on being a chemical imbalance but it's not, and keep making dumbass assumptions.
e doesn't make your horny. t / dht does. hence when some troons take prog they relate getting horned up. excess prog converts to dht. dht makes ya horned up. dht slso cause hair loss.
so no. it's not your e levels. it's your t / dht levels.
i bet if we asked your parents to be completely frank they'd out you for masturbatory habbits which would invalidate your bullshit.
Afabs constantly seem to take emotional damage from their own slutdom and treat it as an act of self-destruction so perhaps.
It's like that girl who unironically posted something like "How about we start fucking men and then leaving the next morning, that'll show them!" displaying just how wildly and hilariously out of touch the sexes are with each other.
Well duh, I masturbate, because IT DOESN'T INVOLVE SEXUAL ATTRACTION. HOW DO YOU STILL NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT ASEXUALITY IS ABOUT AFTER THIS ENTIRE THREAD. HOLY SHIT, YOU FUCKERS ARE DEEPLY ILLITERATE RETARDS.
But I see what's going on, y'all just trying to get under my skin because I don't fit in your narrow-ass worldfiew. 1.9 nmol/l is a perfectly fine level, it's what cis women have too. Fucking choke on your own idiocy, the lot of you.
See, amabs have this pervasive mental problem where they consider women a hivemind, with all women being interchangeable and functionally identical. One inexperienced girl posts stupid shit on the internet and your conclusion is
women don't understand male sexuality
Sexual attraction isn’t necessary for sexual and romantic relationships. Do you think boomers who both look like shit and disgust each other but still fuck are asexuals?
Contrary to porn, sex happens in the dark.
i don't think its "bs" at all
people are just different; and thats ok- it's not up to you
im mostly asexual but not completely and lately i have felt a little more comfortable with some things; but lots of other things are still traumatic for me
>using it as a cover for their actual sexuality, which is usually pedophilia
I knew someone who did this to try to get with asexuals to rape them
you are the biggest AGP on the planet
how is that?
Being AGP involves sexual attraction towards oneself. You, like many others here, don't get it.