in 100 years humans will look back at trannyism and see it the same way we view lobotomy or mercury treatments
it is not possible to change your gender with our current technology and medicine, even if you chop your dick off and dilate the gaping wound every day you still won't have female bone structure, female brain, uterus and ovaries, if you aren't completely deranged you will realize this one day and detrans
In 100 years humans will look back at trannyism and see it the same way we view lobotomy or mercury treatments
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In 100 years we’ll look back at it as the start of the transhumanist slippery slope as we lobby to get picre banned from cishomo-sapien spaces
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globohomo is inevitable
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you fucking retard tourist. we'll all be robots or dead by then. sage in all fields
no theyll probably see it more as an early form of transhumanism given that it's not directly harmful to someones wellbeing but just a form of self-actualization through body modification
this argument doesn't make much sense, how do we view the early forms of mental healthcare for example? For example lobotomy and keeping people trapped in a barrel of cold water? hmm? think troon
OP thinks humanity will last another 100 years
you still won't have female bone structure, female brain, uterus and ovaries
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this is a false equivalency as lobotomies etc are proven to decrease quality of life while transitioning is proven to increase quality of life. go back to your poltard echo chamber if you want people to agree with you
I mean, more careful forms of pseudolobotomic surgeries are still performed in case of neurological conditions resistant to medication and other treatment, it was more the method and inflicting the surgery on unwilling patients that was bad about lobotomy
lobotomies dont do anything though. some brain being pushed in doesnt really that do much
in 100 years earth will be a dead planet because of you shitheads. enjoy your brief period of relatively good economy before magatards ruin it for their feudalist (not deserving even techno- since they're opposed to actual transhumanism that doesn't only serve enshittification) fantasies that you have fallen for only because you're seething coward faggots that can't deal with other people can do what they themselves want without any actual harm to society.
lobotomies weren't particularly "pushing the brain in", they severed connections in the prefrontal cortex, and in case of cheaper surgeons they just stuck an icepick in there and moved it around without any kind of direction.
"proven to increase quality of life" for whom exactly? you're a burden to everyone in your life.
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A few years ago I went down a little bit of a rabbit hole about the local indigenous people around here.Turns out there were multiple accounts from priests and soldiers in the 1700s of finding a bunch of physically male people acting and clothed as women full-time, married to men or to women, doing women's duties. They were present in almost every settlement they went to and mentioned basically from first contact, and noted down in mission registers also (they had a spot for sex/gender for each person brought into the mission).
The priests found this incredibly sinful, and these people were forced to wear men's clothes and behave as (straight) men. The punishment for not doing so was to be torn apart by dogs. Understandably, they disappeared from the historical record until recently.
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couple examples that I found just now:
"the priests were advised that two pagans had gone into one of the houses of the neophytes, one in his natural raiment, the other dressed as a woman. Such a person the Indians in their native language called a joya. Immediately the missionary, with the corporal and a soldier, went to the house to see what they were looking for, and there they found the two in an unspeakably sinful act. They punished them, although not so much as deserved. The priest tried to present to them the enormity of their deed. The pagan replied that that joya was his wife . . . along the Channel of Santa Barbara . . . many joyas are found."
"Among the gentile [Indian] women (who always worked separately and without mixing with the men) there was one who, by the dress, which was decorously worn, and by the heathen headdress and ornaments displayed, as well as the manner of working, sitting, etc., had all the appearances of a woman, but judging by the face and the absence of breasts, though old enough for that, they concluded that he must be a man, but that he passed himself off always for a woman and always went with them and not the men. Taking off his aprons they found that he was more ashamed than if he really had been a woman. They kept him there three days, making him sweep the plaza, but giving him plenty to eat. But he remained very cast down and ashamed. After he had been warned that it was not right for him to go about dressed as a woman and much less thrust himself in with them, as it was presumed that he was sinning with them, they let him go. He immediately left the Mission and never came back to it, but from the converts it was learned that he was still in the villages of the gentiles and going about as before, dressed as a woman."
TL;DR 100 years my ass
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that seems interesting, link?
didnt read, ywnbaw
This may come off as shocking but this is, also, bad. The tranny idea that if you think or behave a certain way you must be a man or a woman is a direct extension of the conservative idea that men and women each must behave a certain way. Ideally, a man should be able to wear a dress and perform traditionally 'women's' roles without being torn apart by dogs. If a man like this were to begin butchering himself, behaving erratically and making unreasonable demands to those around him, that is still a problem. Forced gender roles are retarded; trannyism is not the answer. You are hurting yourself and those around you.
Not to mention, nearly every historical instance of an indigenous group practicing this kind of behavior, or introducing a sort of 'third gender' had ties to prostitution and pedophilia, and was not the choice of the individual. I don't know which group you're talking about, but I would be interested to read if you have any sources to share.
Sure. I read about it mostly in print books and the interest actually kicked off because a local museum had some of the original mission registers archived and you could see the sex/gender column. This is where the quotes are from though:
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actually, there should be no men
wear whatever clothes you want, but testosterone must be gone. no more mutilation of female beauty
I'm a man.
No, it's not shocking. You dislike gender variance. I'm just telling you that the thing you dislike is old.
Anon what do you think the difference is between a male and a female brain
Are we our bodies? What capacities do you even assign to consciousness if not self determination? I am the conscious self that controls a human body. I do what I want to it. I modify it to better fit the gender role that I feel inclined to perform. In 100 years I will be dead. The thing I want to leave behind most is an orchard. You should spend less time thinking about trans people.
whats a mercury treatment? like quicksilver?
I think the missionaries tearing people apart with the wild dogs were the ones forcing gender roles. You start from the stand point that someone who calls herself and dressesas a woman, is intrinsically a man because ... it just is, ok???... and then say we're the ones enforcing roles on people. you don't know shit about gender or sex, except trying to bullshit to justify your programmed hatred of what you don't understand, or want to understand.
Are you being deliberately obtuse? The post clearly explains that culling people is retarded and that forcing people to dress and behave a certain way under the threat of death or worse is evil. You're the one defining a woman through concepts as shallow as clothes and self-identity. No one says you can't wear a dress, you just aren't a woman because a woman is just a physical state of being.
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be consistent, physical sex is a spectrum. you can't claim to be against gender roles and also assert that "woman" is a real andclearly definable physical concept. why would a post op tranny and an infertile "cis" woman not both be women? if you bring up chromosomes, we'll say one of them is intersex.
I take estrogen and it causes me to grow tits and get called she/her by strangers.
I am literally already a woman.
lobotomy is the same as hrt
I don't get it
woman is when boobs
Sex is binary. Intersex is a rare medical condition. Simple as.
Promised as a cure, but is barbaric, regressive and harmful.
Maybe the point isn’t to change people’s genders, it’s to tame aggressive people and change their behavior.
>woman is when boobs
Correct.
Anything else is pseudo-religious faith-based bullshit.
barbaric, regressive and harmful
Justify how it is any one of those things, because its actually enlightened, progressive and helpful and you're literally just making shit up because you get sexual satisfaction from telling lies on the internet or something
Deprives people of sexual function and numbs their genitals.
Increased risk of chronic pain, early menopause in females, compromises fertility, increased risk of heart attacks, increased risk of erythrocytosis in males, increased risk of vaginal atrophy in females, negative impact on bone health and many many more, with many not symptoms not appearing until years after beginning hrt. There is likely more unknown side-effects, but academic studies on this subject have been repressed by activists.