Why are boymoders accepted and embraced as a legitimate part of the community but FtM girlmoders are derided as trenders?
Why are boymoders accepted and embraced as a legitimate part of the community but FtM girlmoders are derided as...
Misogyny.
do you mean here, or in the more real world of LGBT people
cos I know a decent amount of FtM girlmoders through FtM friends, I don't know a single boymoder irl
because ftm girlmoders demand pronouns and affirmation despite not taking testosterone and not intending to transition
meanwhile boymoders expect people to assume their pronouns and use a male name for them, and are taking estrogen to medically transition before they socially transtition
God damnit I want to ruin this child and get her addicted to methamphetcime
Holy shit I was thinking of this yesterday lmao. But yeah there's no logical reason, people are just hostile to ftm and won't ever care about their possible reasons for girlmoding
There’s literally no reason. Women can wear boy clothes and have short hair. It’s socially acceptable
Because they hate boymoding. It's not for fun or to be cute it's because they hate themselves. MiSoGyNy
I mean there's a girlmoding FtM, and then there's someone like OPs pic that just has he/him in the bio and short hair
like no one respects the trans women that are actually male moding, cos they're not seen as queer, yet
if I knew you irl and you asked me to start calling you He/Him I'd respect that
you have that cold dead stare
Untrue as fuck. This depends entirely on how liberal the area you're in is, and even then you're describing tomboys which are accepted due to the belief of it being a "phase" thing. Ftms however are more decided, but their desire for masculinity is punished because they're betraying womanhood or whatever. Both girlmoding and boymoding are safety measures so that cissoids don't lose their shit when spotting an obvious troon
Dumbass this isn’t Russia we’re talking about. Nobody gives a shit outside of the most ghetto ass slum piles.
The alternative to boymoding is going out looking like a stereotypical man wearing female clothing and talking in a man voice and telling everyone to call you by female pronouns and a female name.
That seems like what those like Clay are doing - going out looking like a girl with hair flowers and dyed hair and asking to be called a man with he/him pronouns.
The real equivalent of boymoding MTFs would be be FTMs who go on T and only transition socially after looking and sounding somewhat more masculine.
I mean there's a girlmoding FtM, and then there's someone like OPs pic that just has he/him in the bio and short hair
I will admit that this is somewhat true but one has also to consider the reason WHY examples like the pic may exist. It has a lot to do with "validity culture" that doesn't encourage masculinity because of rhetoric such as "testosterone is poison that makes you a monster", you know the drill. You can't expect the babytrans to be secure in themselves when this is the message we are sending to them. To solve the so-called theyfab problem we gotta get to the roots of it, aka misandry (as well as other things)
ftms being harassed, killed raped and etc on a daily basis but noo, trust me they're accepted so there's no reason to girlmode!
fpbp
Why would you expect men who are too cowardly to even talk to women in person to empathize with females?
ftm get murdered less than women though
Also
i girlmoded so I wouldn’t be raped
Holy lmfao fucking shit… you didn’t think about that one did you?
Holy lmfao fucking shit… you didn’t think about that one did you?
No, I did. Repping or not, there's no victory for those deemed as "females" by society. It's not contradictory to state that yes, sometimes girlmoding is safer than other options.
mtfs think they're the only trutrans around because there's more of them and they have a deep envy for anyone born female (especially if they alter female traits)
that they take out on poons because poons are spineless and will put up with anything
being raped as a woman would be far less humiliating than being raped as a ftm anyway
Nobody is lining up to rape poons
yeah that's fair, and I think the other thing is that the two cultures that the babytrans are in before hand has a lot to do with it
as I've heard a lot about how bad female socialisation is but never a second thought to recognise that trans people of either flavour have suffered pretransition, that's what led to the transition
babytrans MtFs
are isolated males who are being demonised by validity culture as they're amab and told they are part of the issue, they're is no outlets asside from seething over people they percieve as luckier or worse, they fall for the right wing grifts that it's actually womens fault they're being pushed this way and become incely
babytrans FtMs
are sheltered by validity culture as they are embraced as already done, valid, they don't need to change more because what you believe is what makes you, and there might be real fear in them from all the stories they hear and have grown up with about testosterone and MALES, and when they post about being he/him online and recieve backlash from whoever, it pushes them back to the safer zone of "I'm already valid"
I agree with you in saying it's misandry and also the people saying it's misogyny, it's the fact that the two sides of the coin haven't seen each other and assume the coin must be crushing their side more
(I don't have a lot of bottom images so here ya go)
men fuck orangutans, pooners arent the worst they can do
genuinely just needs to shave their head what the fuck is that hair
i can see the boyish look with a skin head wtf is he doing
We are doing a "how bad rape is under those specific circumstances" scale now I guess LMFAO. You're not real
Orangutans usually consent tho
Also also it's kinda sad watching you all just be haters to the opposite side
this is shit for everyone
Moids are misogynists, I'm sorry this is how you had to find out anon.
I’m an equal opportunity hater dicknose
Oh wow, did you come up with that one on your own? "I hate everyone equally actually" is such an original thing to say, holy shit. User was awarded Reddit gold for this heckin' hilarious post. "dicknose" literally had me in tears XD
I'm not a "hater to the opposite side", anon, I don't hate transfems at all. I just believe some people here are hostile towards girlmoders without even bothering to understand the reasons why they do that. But yes, I do agree things shit for each one of us. No doubt about that.
u mad bro?
And a tip of the ol' fedora to you as well, m'sir :)
Girugamesh!
if we're using Moids as a lovely catch all for amabs as well, I better update my status then
A bit of casual banter is fine, but this looks competitive ranked levels of shit talking which is kinda cringe
ok you might've caught a stray (You) then cos there's been too much shit thrown in this thread for my taste even tho it's a pretty legit question originally
When you see it...
theyfabs have done a lot of damage to the girlmoder optics and girlmoders are way less talked about around here in my experience
also some people think that ftm girlmode cuz they're trenders unlike mtf that boymode cuz they're in danger
I've seen people on both sides only being "e-trans" and boymoding/girlmoding irl cuz in reality they're just trenders but of course my sample bias is massive
we need more decent ftm representation around here
all rape bad, just more humilatingly to get your clam slammed as a poon after putting in all the effort to escape your sex
ok you might've caught a stray (You)
Kek it happens, don't worry about it. And you are correct, there's too much infighting. As trannies we should stop self-sabotaging so much, but alas...
too soon…
eye for an eye
friendy fire
the stretch marks eughhhh.
Let’s rape some poons and find out
Very well said, I don't have anything to complement on. Sigh, I wish things weren't so complex
I'll let you know the secret because you played ball
Look at her underwear, she's on her period
rape an organgutan and compare pussies
Measuring a supposed humiliation factor of it is crazy work
It sucks that as a ftm I will never be able to plap and impregnate a ftfemboy like him
acting like rape is about the attractiveness of the victim
Depravity has no limits anon.
that's hot
imagine getting him methed up and then rubbing t-gel on his pussy
fell for CNN article again award
most rape is just about proximity. Regardless, presenting feminine will get you more raped than presenting masculine. I spent a week homeless in a refugee camp once and none of them raped me but they raped one of the girls a bunch.
Your example is more like picrel thoughever.
yeah and now it's devolved further xd
Exhausting amounts of bullet wounds on both sides at this rate
Thank you <3
I feel like I had a fucking epiphany about all things gender about a month ago, it takes far too much work to understand all this shit from both sides
I girlmoded for about 1.5 years into T because it would feel humiliating to put the effort in to pass and still get called a girl or woman. I also wasn't sure what my parents reaction would be. Just like boymoding its done for safety but I rarely see girlmoding discussed in ftm spaces, its more common for us to start socially transitioning pre-T even if they wouldn't pass yet
Rape is a far too complicated issue for me to discuss on tttt of all things so all I'm gonna say is that nuance exists. Yes there's proximity, so you're not necessarily wrong about the fem presenting thing but there is still too much corrective rape against transmascs, like that'll revitalize their femininity. That is what I am against.
too much corrective rape against transmascs, like that'll revitalize their femininity
That is pretty much entirely just a porn thing and coomerspeak shitposts. It doesn’t happen irl lol.
because masculine is the default and feminine is performative.
for a mtboymoder to boymode they have to be lazy and do nothing (wear sweater no makeup)
for a ftgirlmoder to girlmode they have to put in effort and do stuff (wear cute flower crowns and die their hair)
"Trans men are more likely to be victims of sexual and/or physical violence than the general population [39]. In a study of 284 trans men in nine African countries, the lifetime prevalence of sexual violence was 41% and in the past year 24% "
it's just not a western thing
because "girlmoding" is literally just presenting as a tomboy. it's socially acceptable for girls to wear guys' clothes. ofc these "ftms" dressing feminine, even hyper feminine at times are probably just women. if they were girlmoders, they'd actually look more masculine.
when you finally got the feminist chick intellectually cornered on the wage gap and she starts talking about Sudan all of a sudden
sigh
it doesn't happen because... it just doesn't, okay?! nobody wants those fugly pooners!
Now you lost me. For the sake of my own sanity I'm gonna pretend I did not read that. Good night, anon
what do you mean the place full of degenerate trannies is full of degenerate trannies.. now you lost me
erm achshully straight shota futa feminization NTR totally happens in real life… because it just does!
You really got me there, buckaroo...