Who has worse dysphoria, the average hsts or the average agp?

who has worse dysphoria, the average hsts or the average agp?
yes it is a contest.

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Without a doubt the AGP. Hsts are just men they don't really have dysphoria

it'd be hsts right?
agps usually don't care about their appearance or how it feels wrong to be in your body but instead get turned on by it

What the hell are you talking about? I think ur confusing AGPs with AGAMPs

no
blanchard says dysphoria is caused by AGP. HSTS don't transition if they can't pass. AGP NEEDS to transition. this is why he still advocates for AGPs being allowed hormones

indeterminate cause both are dogshit bullshit terms that realistically mean nothing.

Anyway the answer is AGP

HSTS are self hating gay men, they don't have dysphoria, they have internalized homophobia.

Average AGP, later average age of transition makes this no contest. If you control for that, it’s probably about the same.

hsts

dysphoria

AGP easily. The have sex with people(men) who they aren't even attracted to alleviate dysphoria.

yeah

Those with the worst dysphoria are agp but the average hsts has worse dysphoria than the average agp

HSTS dysphoria starts early and wanes as they get older.
AGP dysphoria starts late (even in agp youngshits) and gets progressively worse.

bullying gays starts early
HSTS got bullied out of being gay

this
hsts dont actually experience dysphoria they're just very self conscious over being gay men
AGPs experience dysphoria because they're trans, the term AGP is misleading anyways because you dont actually have to experience attraction to yourself to be one, you just have to be not a gay man
that doesn't mean not liking men either, women are bisexual at an extremely high rate, yet they can still be straight and only date/have sex with men

100% a Case by Case basis both can have equal dysphoria.

But anyway hsts

this. nobody actually reads blanchard.

hsts are literally supergay men. like actually in his mind there exists a type of man who is so gay, that he will do anything for cock, even transition. the gay man knows clocky trans women will not get as much cock as he does... so he only transitions if he knows he passes.
that's why they are "dumber" and "passing / pretty"
and in some cases it's internalized homophobia.

According to Blanch.. AGPs are men who get dysphoria from a fetish they aren't able to fulfill, and he claims that the fetish gets so bad it becomes dysphoria. They transition because they have to, and even after their libido is nuked on hrt- they remain happy with transition and continue going..
which is why they sometimes don't pass.

(and according to Anon Babble neoblanchardism.. "agamps" are closer to the types who like their gock and sexualize being trans itself and think dysphoria is internalized transphobia..)

In traditional blanchardism though, HSTS are nondysphoric by definition.

I mean for HSTS the internalized homophobia IS The gender dysphoria. Being a woman would mean not being hated for being gay anymore.

those brown dudes that defend the Aryan master race

doesn't that kind of just sound like some weird extension of freud stuff? i thought we stopped believing him ages ago
i wonder what conclusions blanchard would come to if he ever got to talk to non hsts youngshits

traditional blanchardism

Only on Anon Babble will I ever see that

i cry every night about being born a man in a gross male body so womp womp

idk what hsts or agp really is but this guy i talk to said im a “classic husstuss” so i guess take that in consideration

its okay to be gay anon, nothing to be ashamed of

Do you fear being seen as a gay man?

i’d rather die then be a man no thanks
i just want to be a nice wife sorry

obviously not or gay men wouldn't be outnumbered here 10x1 by "straight trans women"

right but it's not hating being a man for your biology it's hating being a gay man for the social roles and how it's "wrong"

where agp dysphoria is biological, it's frustration with male anatomy not being the fantasy

i don't believe any of this btw i'm not a blanchardist..
i'm just going off of blanchards stuff lol

yes.. it is fake and gay and the guy is kind of a hack about this one. i hate how his theories are used, but desu those stereotypes: man so gay he becomes woman & man so straight and fetishistic he larps as woman) existed before him and his theories don't line up exactly and are misinterpreted anyway.
so it's whatever

i wonder what conclusions blanchard would come to if he ever got to talk to non hsts youngshits

he'd probably think the parents groomed them tbdesu- murnchausnes by proxy kinda thing.

i think so? it’s just kind of offensive, it makes me feel like they don’t really view me the way i see myself; i’ve always been obsessed with other people’s perceptions of me

Is being gay intrinsically offensive to others?

i don't believe in blanchardism but there is an unironic difference between:

how blanchard and his circle describe things

how terfs use watered down AGP as some sort of boogeyman for all of their stereotypes

and Anons inventing and discussing new blanchardist philias like tumblr creating sexuality microlabels in 2016

um idk, but i think it’s offensive to me because im not really gay; i like men because i want a kind strong man who like actually likes cared about me and whatnot, and i just wanna be his wife; and i think id be quite satisfied with that

A lot of people might see you as gay for being amab and into other amabs.

yeah probably, but that’s not how i see it; and i think that’s all that really matters, no?

why not just see yourself as non gay then and spare the whole transition if it's nothing to do with what others think about you?

? i am and want to be a woman ?
i think i fit fem aesthetics better, and i want the role of wife and girlfriend in future relationships, and i just like being a girl; i don’t want to be a man

you got bullied out of being gay

? i was bullied way harder after transitioning in highschool then before LOL

blanchardism is retarded, so the least passing trannies, cuz they have more to be dysphoric about

AGP by far
t. hsts

women are evil by nature