I am not trans or feminine in any way except for wanting a vagina for sexual purposes and imaging myself as the...

I am not trans or feminine in any way except for wanting a vagina for sexual purposes and imaging myself as the bottom/woman in my masturbation fantasies. Otherwise, I'm perfectly cis. What am I?

Trans

I'm not though. I don't have dysphoria or any feminine inclinations

im not transsexual it’s just my sexuality is fundamentally feminized

ok tranny

wanting a vagina is dysphoria

Someone who is rotted by porn and needs to detox their brain. Actual non meme answer.

A deep dicking just looks really satisfying and fulfilling. It's different that being trans though

I don't really desire to be rid of my own genitals, I just want to experience the opposite's sexually. It's really just a sex fantasy thing.

This is what I am thinking. Also way way way too much pot, I didn't have these feelings when I was drinking myself to death

I don't really desire to be rid of my own genitals, I just want to experience the opposite's sexually. It's really just a sex fantasy thing.

wanting the oppose sex's sexuality is gender dysphoria

sex and sex organs and gender are not the same thing

AGP

"gender dysphoria" in this case also includes sex dysphoria
most trans people are actually dysphoric about their body, not about nebulous ideas of gender

It's still not what I have. I just have fetishes and fantasies

Don’t listen to the retarded anon, you 100% should stop smoking and drinking and gooning. Find real life hobbies to help ground you in the real world and focus most of your energy into them. I know everyone says it, but legit go outside more. Also, don’t use this board at all it’s poison. Good luck

a deep dicking just looks really satisfying and fulfilling

fulfilling is a telling word. it suggests a lack of fulfillment and is different from just desiring something. ice cream after a meal is satisfying. sleep is satisfying. sex is usually satisfying. I wouldn't necessarily call sex fulfilling unless it had a very specific driving force

I didn't have these feelings when I was drinking myself to death

many trans people abuse substances to repress their identities. I used to drink myself into oblivion every night, too

It's really just a sex fantasy thing

if that's the reality, then great, go live it
not saying it's not, but the fact that you came here in the first place suggests it's more than that
if you weren't satisfied with the sex fantasy interpretation in the first place, you probably wouldn't have accepted it so readily. and if you had been satisfied with that interpretation, I wonder why you came here for advice at all, unless your deeper psyche is trying to tell you something

I'm perfectly cis

I would have said that until basically three weeks before I accepted I wanted to transition
maybe you're totally different than me but maybe...?

are you happy as a guy?

This is the single fucking time it's 100% appropriate to say AGP and only one of you motherfuckers even floated it. You argue about it all day, but can't see it when it's right fucking there

do you also have fantasies in which you're a man, and enjoy taking the male role in sex?

agp or just plain tranny at worst

fulfilling is a telling word

I wouldn't read too much into it, it was partially just a "filling" pun. But still, it looks very satisfying to be bread and fucked hard. I often get a sort of "phantom" vagina feeling down there when I'm horny..

many trans people abuse substances to repress their identities.

For me it's out of boredom.

I wonder why you came here for advice at all, unless your deeper psyche is trying to tell you something

Because I want your morons to pinkpill me and try to convince me otherwise. I need to test my thoughts. I've already talked to my therapist about all of this and everything.

are you happy as a guy?

I'm not happy, but I don't think it's because I'm a guy. When I was a kid, I got mad and miserable that I wasn't more manly.

I have, but lately no not really. I've never had sex

I have, but lately no not really. I've never had sex

have you considered trying sex with a man?

Yes. I've been semi-openly bisexual for years, despite never having sex. The few times I've "hit on" or "confessed" to anyone has been men

I often get a sort of "phantom" vagina feeling down there when I'm horny

that's interesting
I dunno, whatever understanding you prefer, but I struggle to imagine a cis guy enjoying the idea of being fucked by another guy in a vagina. maybe I'm a weirdo

For me it's out of boredom

okay, maybe it's nothing to do with having gendery feelings
boredom isn't mutually exclusive with having exploration to do with your gender

I want your morons to pinkpill me

no one here is going to do that. no one healthy anyway
all we're going to do is encourage you to think about it and consider what you want with an honesty that, maybe, you're not allowing yourself right now
but maybe you are. I can't say
what did your therapist say?

When I was a kid, I got mad and miserable that I wasn't more manly

same. I remember being mortified and pissed off that people would perceive me as a woman on the phone and call me "ma'am" when I was a little boy
at points over the years I worked out and leaned into my masculinity. It's not that it "help" but it wasn't what I ultimately wanted, I just didn't know it
I'm not a psychologist, but I'd bet my left tit that wishing you were more like your birth sex/gender is fairly common for trans people and cis people alike
but it is interesting you perceived yourself as less manly than you wanted to be
maybe because you really wanted to be manly?
or because you didn't want to have to deal with the social consequences of being not?

but I struggle to imagine a cis guy enjoying the idea of being fucked by another guy in a vagina.

Fetishes can be weird

boredom isn't mutually exclusive with having exploration to do with your gender

This is true, but still at the time I never thought of it this way

encourage you to think about it and consider what you want with an honesty that

I never know what I want. I am the most retarded person when it comes to myself.

maybe because you really wanted to be manly? or because you didn't want to have to deal with the social consequences of being not?

The second thought is interesting and does fit in with my experience, I hadn't thought of it this way. Probably more so the later, though I also wanted to be better at sports so it was partially the former

you're not retarded
lots of people have no idea what they want because they're more concerned about what's wanted or needed of them
you deserve your own respect no matter how uncertain of yourself you are

Fetishes can be weird

yes they can. I have some wild ones
but I don't think it's healthy or helpful to declare to yourself that's all this is. the very fact that you're not certain, to the extent that you're here thinking about it, seems important

I also wanted to be better at sports

maybe that's all it was, but were sports a symbol of the masculinity you wanted to embody for social reasons?
many gay men have a "beard," that is marry women to avoid the social consequences of homosexuality
pursuing traditional social objectives of your birth gender doesn't necessarily mean you wanted them

but were sports a symbol of the masculinity you wanted to embody for social reasons?

Sports have been a thing I've cared about always, but always as a fan not anymore as a player. I could go back but I'd feel embarrased being so bad at them again. It's not a gender thing, though as a player it probably was to an extent.

I'll have to think about this aspect more though, almost everything I did as a kid was filtered through the thoughts of "will people think I'm stupid and/or wimpy and sucky?"

this is unironically AGP

Addicted to porn.

ignore the pinkpillers, they're voracious.

sissy fetish / MEF.
If it's enough to make you transition; AGP.

it could be reevaluate the things you could see yourself having wanted but didn't think you were free to want
do you see yourself wanting anything more about womanhood besides the sex?
would you take any of it?

could be good to reevaluate*

i hate how progressive do gooders have made this so confusing for actual transsexuals
btw you're not wrong about how good it feels to get fucked

Straight cis tourist here. I had a dream once about waking up with a woman’s body and experimenting with a carrot. My girlfriend brought up dreaming about having a dick and playing with it. I think it’s normal to consider it at one point or another, and it can be powerful and confusing as all subconscious sex drive things are, but if it’s a recurring thing that’s fucking with your self esteem or confusing you with where it’s coming from, idk what to say other than that it’s not a big deal, and often these types of things are a misinterpreted desire to focus on the subject. Gotta remember that sex is hard coded into the brain at a far deeper level than, say, “sense of self,” “consciousness,” or “logical thinking.” It won’t always translate right when you try to understand it with more recently developed areas of the brain; just take all the weird fetishes people have that seem uniquely human. I got a number of niche and fucked up things I’m into, but I can see there’s a clear trend and a specific taste in power and roles, so I know where they come from and what I’m actually looking for. Considering you’re admitting to only really getting this way on pot, which is obviously well known to adjust your state of mind even when you’re not actively high, I don’t know if this really fits into a subconscious desire in the same way, but eh, maybe consider what it is you’d actually want out of sex or a relationship and figure out why you would want to, as a man, give control away, be acted upon rather than act, etc.

I'm broadly aware

Not aware enough it would seem. One last question, do you think you can live the rest of your life without having experienced sex as a woman?
If you are 100% sure that you can without it causing some sort of trouble, go ahead, live the cis life and occasionally goon to whatever porn you go on to regularly. However, if you don't think you can have a fulfilling sexual life as a cis man just transition.

Salmacian? Nonbinary perhaps. I saw a guy who got SRS with no hrt

dreaming about having a dick and playing with it

i actually had a dream like this once too
i woke up and i was very wet..

Oh, and I forgot to add, don’t troon out. I can tell you aren’t going to based on how you’ve responded to all this pressure from people who would see your life ruined to justify their own choices, but it really is a last ditch effort thing that should never be recommended, only something to be done if you can’t stop wanting it for a year plus and have no friends or family to save you from yourself.

One last question, do you think you can live the rest of your life without having experienced sex as a woman?

I never will, strictly speaking. I'm not interested in it enough to consider it. I will likely just be a gooner. I want kids one day though, and I'm well past my prime age for having them

Yeah, swapping in a dream is an awesome experience, at least as a one off. Novelty can be really exciting. That said, I’m happy I was born a man. It better fits my mentality.

I never will, strictly speaking.

Then trans-

and I'm well past my prime age for having them

Ah, that explains everything, forget what I said. I'm sorry you got late to the party.

See I'm fine with being born a man, it also fits my mentality well I think. It's just a sex thing

Mentally I am still 18. Physically I am past 30

i am not happy i was born a man but i am glad i am a woman now

Physically I am past 30

yeah I got that from the other post, here's what I think. You would have 100% transitioned if you were younger, but you know your chances of passing and whatnots are very small for people your age, so you choose to not do it, enjoy being a repper for what's left of your life, I guess.

“Past 30” is easily in range for kids, especially as a man, assuming you’re not being excessively generous with your implied range in “30+”. It obviously sounds outlandish if you’ve never even had sex before, but 30+ year old career women are in prime territory for family starting, as they finally understand their desire for it and know that time is running out. If you treat it like it’s real and you’re willing to work for it you can have it. Focus on that and questions like these may become irrelevant or solve themselves.

You would have 100% transitioned if you were younger,

I used to be younger and I didn't have the inclination then. That's why it fucks with me

are you trying to encourage this man to become john 50
OP needs to transition

Hope that works out.

Only a tiny bit past 30, don't worry I'm not being generous. I know it's in range now but I would basically have to build my life up from nothing to even be able to start perusing it (or transitioning or anything) so nothing feels worth it

OP needs to transition

Or I need to get over all my other problems and stop avoiding life and just get a fucking job and everything

it did? i've already said i have a pussy now
you sound depressed too

No, I just believe he understands himself pretty well already, as he’s being pretty transparent when he says he doesn’t want to transition, and is simply confused about where this is coming from. I’m respecting him as another thinking being rather than pushing an agenda on him.

i've already said i have a pussy now

no you don't, you have a weird amalgamation built from the left overs of your dick

you sound depressed too

I am but also just sitting on that is an excuse so there's no reason to not go out and do it. I just don't because I am a bad person and saying that allows me to coast

OP I’m 28, we’re essentially in the same age bracket. I started college at 25 instead of 18 as I had a whole other life planned out with an ex that obviously fell through, and at the time that felt impassable, as it was my whole lived experience up to that point. Now I’ve got a whole other path ahead. You’re probably gonna be kicking around another 40 years at least, you’re not even half done yet, don’t say anything’s over just because it hasn’t happened yet. Just get off the drugs and alcohol and give yourself time to hurt and struggle, whenever you’re ready, then go share what you’ve got with someone who will care for you. It’s all there is.

Just get off the drugs and alcohol and give yourself time to hurt and struggle, whenever you’re ready, then go share what you’ve got with someone who will care for you. It’s all there is.

I've had plenty of time, I am exactly where I want to be. I want to be a lazy, bad person who just leeches, it's all I really care about doing. It is my character. If I didn't want it, I wouldn't be doing it.

lol what do you think he's doing here
he knew people would tell him he should transition and shows clearly he's just here to argue with us
but his depression and discontent with life shines through anyway..i suspect he needs to transition based on the fact that he's here and wants a vagina but it's hard to know for sure

in any case while he's screaming that iwnbaw i will be screaming because my bf is fucking my pussy so who cares

We’ve both been through this conversation before with different people, I won’t play the role out the whole way. Just remember that these things are hard for a reason; if they weren’t, anyone could do it, and that would defeat the purpose. I hope you find the value of pride, and can one day share what it earns you with people you care about.

i suspect he needs to transition based on the fact that he's here and wants a vagina but it's hard to know for sure

Yes it is hard, that's why I'm asking.

I'm not just here to argue, but I'll admit I do have that kind of personality. Others have commented on it before

i will be screaming because my bf is fucking my pussy so who cares

it's not real, it's not functional. i don't want to be a sterile fucking tranny with a weird surgery concoction

I don't care about people. I'll make time for them, I will do things if they ask, but I don't actually care beyond not pissing them off so I can continue to mooch

look i admit i don't get pregnant but i promise it functions fine for the other purpose of sex...

Ya but I don't think I care enough about that. I want children