Do LGBT people get freedom by begging the people who are oppressing them for it?

Do LGBT people get freedom by begging the people who are oppressing them for it?

Apparently the civil rights movement didn't exist lol. God leftists are dumb

if gay people were violent with people who were homophobic towards them, homophobia would stop, completely
homophobia is a product of seeing gays as intersex and therefore weaker and able to be physically and emotionally subjugated by stronger more dominant animals

you get freedom by proving you deserve it while making strong moral and legal arguments. NOT by being a retard who refuses to engage with anybody who disagrees with or holds power over you. you MUST hold yourself to a high standard to DESERVE freedom

this is a manipulated POV which plays on the laziness of the young in order to weaken the progressive movement so trumpist fascism can take over.

Exactly lol. We even have a good example with Israel-Palestine and South Africa.
South africa was in a far worse position than palestine, yet by the actions of the ANC and a focus on race relations and avoiding the deaths of the oppressors black south africans are in a better position, so much so there is even a reversal of the roles to an extent.
Then you have Hamass and other islamist/palestinian resistance groups who's indiscriminate killing of israelis just puts it in a deeper and deeper hole year over year

the civil rights movement won by getting northern whites to use the federal government to stop what southern whites were doing with state governments
they certainly appealed to somebody's moral sense, but it wasn't the people directly oppressing them, it was a third party who could intervene but hadn't yet decided to.

ok now that's also retarded and a misread of history. PLO and ANC have identical origins in liberationist terrorism. ANC won because the liberal west wanted to prove its righteousness after defeating communism. PLO lost because israel is too important to the west to fail so hamas was created as a frustrated reaction. there were also numerous peaceful protests in palestine leading up to oct 7th including the great march of return which saw palestinians slaughtered. oct 7th was similar to the warsaw uprising in that it was a group destined for extermination lashing out in a desperate attempt to secure any hope at all. hamas also intended oct 7th to be a political move that could get palestinian prisoners released and didnt expect that the entire western world would let them be bombed into nonexistence. it's a miscalculation but also one on a much larger inter-societal scale and the intra-societal oppression that characterizes transphobia and other civil rights issues.

That's how black people did it. Look at how that turned out lol.

also i forgot to mention that hamas was encouraged by israel specifically to weaken the PLO because the PLO had a rational and internationally sympathetic militancy and approach to terror instead of a religious fundamentalist approach

Yes. Look at Queers for Palestine. “Don’t kill us, we support you!”.

christians are a much bigger threat to gay rights than muslims are

lmao no they aren't

yeah they are
christians hold almost all institutional power in the developed world, not muslims

Muslims execute and immolate trans people, christians call you a man. Geta fucking grip and stop sucking islamist dick and licking muslim boots

christians ruin your life and shun you
i dunno why you are apologizing for christian conservatives online nigger
I don't like muslims, but christians are way worse cuz people run defense for them like you and pretend they aren't doing anything wrong

you are legitimate honest to god lobotomite

christian doctors were lobotomizing homosexuals in the 1950s

Everyday muslims are beheading homosexuals today

blah blah unsourced hysteria to whitewash the violence of christians against gays

lmao ok keep licking that boot

ur the one defending christian conservatives
I don't like religious people at all, but arguing that muslims are the ones oppressing western gays is fucking silly

Yeah you must have a mental disability

But anon, it's only bad when brown people do it
White people 100% do not have a history of hanging random people and then keeping their body parts as souvenirs and we should hyper fixate on Muslims throwing people off roofs

well it's also kinda ignoring that driving people to suicide through social shunning can be just as damaging as outright physical violence
you know you are dealing with a female supremacist when they hyper-focus on hysterical claims about physical violence and dismiss you completely when you suggest non-physical abuse can be damaging as well

The job discrimination, the potential homelessness arch, having to do anything for the dollar, the different forms of aggression you receive and higher rates of abuse, straining relationships, oh yeah. It gets pretty bad... Some people just want you to die before they recognize you're struggling.

I hate brown people too, but fuck are Christians annoying.

at any point we could just decide to take away women’s rights and they couldn’t do shit

Discordia I love you.

idk who you are but ily 2

they could deny men access to their holes

i mean, kinda. broadly the end results were federal, but that doesn’t really address the means by which those rights were won.

the civil rights movement won by getting northern whites to use the federal government

by and large, appealing to white people in power was the goal, but a lot of the appealing done was “enact the CRA or we keep fighting back.” the black panther party’s history gets totally ignored in most US curricula, but they really can’t be overstated.

they certainly appealed to somebody's moral sense, but it wasn't the people directly oppressing them, it was a third party who could intervene but hadn't yet decided to.

the deciders of the CRA mostly weren’t voted in on the basis that they’d enact a civil rights act, and those who were probably weren’t going to. there’s no real democratic process taking place in that instance aside from the democracy of mass resistance. idk how this weird savior narrative has stuck around so long when the FBI was assassinating leaders en masse. ofc it wasn’t all violent resistance (easy example is the free breakfast program) but near all resistance was violently repressed. the fact that the selma to montgomery march happened with police consent and gov’t-made signs kinda shows how cooperation leads to recuperation real fast.

Yes, the government enforced civil rights using bayonets. That's not exactly peaceful like the tripfag was implying

you dont get it bro the us military flexing its might on racists after a minority fought bravely in two world wars and then successfully argued for their freedom is literally anarchism

I think they were getting at “winning rights peacefully” which like that event happened after those rights had already been won

literally anarchism

god i wish.

you want to be raped and discarded in a hellish might makes right world with no courts or formalized legal system to protect you despite being a minority that most of the world finds inherently disgusting?

nta but we already kind of live in that world to some extent
Our cops are pretty crooked and get away with some bad behavior

pft

a government said so, so that makes it right

this bayonet is actually a dildo to peg you

how progressive

friendly reminder melba of the little rock 9 never fucked link, and instead fucked a gi named danny who reminded her of her guard in the school.
the gi, iirc, abandoned her

you are so stupid and so coddled by the world your ancestors built for you

to protect you despite being a minority

yknow, when a group of enforcers demand protection money and threaten to beat you if you don’t, it’s supposed to be a crime. too many of my friends have been raped and beaten by pigs to figure a world without cops is any worse than ours.

my ancestors would be ashamed to see me listen to cops. they didn’t design this world, they just did the labor and unionizing and surviving.

tfw your ancestors are black

Tbf you can only say that when your great grandmother is 42.