A reminder that women's shoulders are the SAME SIZE across as their hips

There are different shapes of cis women, dumbass

Picrel is not important, wasn't the point.
What I was saying is that I often see trannies treating their 3+ inch wider shoulders as totally fine, but this is not fine, this is clocky

It seems like there's a load of hons on this board that have no idea how they're being perceived, maybe just too autistic?

vid proves my point, retard

this is a cis woman

And troons talk shit about people,
Stay out of womens room
Shit talking troons

okay and what are we supposed to do about it? we can’t change our shoulder width so we move on. that’s the well-adjusted adult thing to do rather than be a brainwormed doomer about it. it is fine for there to be a 3 inch difference, it has to be.

That woman has measurements that deviate MASSIVELY from the average, and is a cishon because of it. If a tranny had those measurements you'd all call it clocky, which it would be.

Transsexuals are aiming for something at least slightly within the range of average, posting someone who looks masculine because of their shoulders is not proving the point you think it is

I am not saying that no females have wide shoulders, but THAT female is probably insecure about them, when many trannies with the same build would just be honfidently oblivious

Toons talk shit, why people don't want troons around.
Troons are toxic people it why people don't let them in places

You change it with exercise, or diet, or atrophy through muscle neglect, or you dress against it. I'm not saying it's bad to accept it, that's a good thing. I'm saying it's delusional to think it's not clocky

NTSA
women don't bat an eye when i walk in, men immediately confront me to tell me i'm in the wrong bathroom.
I'm gonna do what's easier

i have giga chad golden ratio shoulders to waist ratio with a .69 waist to hip ratio (39.5-24-34.75) and its why i will never troon out

Cis women who are athletic have a inverted triangle
You're all troon toxic

its different with female hips

You're mistakenly assuming that trans women can get by as "athletic women"
Passing requires assimilation far past what's healthy, we have to be hyperfeminine in a pseudonatural way to get by without suspicion

that's a little tough but you should rail squats

lol my shoulders aren’t atrophying anymore than they have. i have no gonads and have been on hrt for the better part of a decade. this is just my life and im not going to feel badly about something i cannot change. im sure im a little clocky, but thats okay.

ID requirements soon

you do what the cishon does and wear hip pads, simple. idk why more trannies don't desu

oh, we just have different goals then. happy for u :^) i'm glad you found satistfaction

Ooo really
Fucking sex workers your fucking crazy

My ID is changed. Gonna start requiring Original Birth Certificate?

they should

any way to measure hip breadth without calipers?

Probably
And passport

I just don't think that's true, almost nobody would go for that, and there's no way the government is gonna overreach to make sure businesses enforce this. I'm in commiefornia, nothing ever happens here

you can have someone dot the wall lol but likely not very reliable. Or le classique sliding door method

I don't get why people find stuff like this that hard, just grab a long enough ruler and use your hands on each side as "calipers". It's accurate enough if you're not stupid.
The only thing that's really hard to measure is biacromial, cause that requires you to have your arms and hand straight in front of you and not like bending around to your back to measure it.
The only way to get that is maybe a camera with auto-shutter and sitting straight against a wall with some ruler taped on it or something.

Also, not everyone even has a birth certificate or passport, that would never work

YOU ARE NOT OP WHY ARE YOU PRETENDING TO BE ME

because they look bad. you can almost always tell when someone is wearing them.
yeah when you troon in your mid 20s you have to set realistic expectations for yourself. that said, i do pass in most circumstances, i dont think cissies care about shoulder to hip ratios like you think they do.

oops ignore the "OP"
forgot to check the name field, and it auto filled
SORRRYYYYY

they don't CARE about any passing metric, they just pick up on it in that spit second instinct where their brain determines our gender

heh it's ok i thought it was funny anyways

bideltoid or biacromial?

Bideltoid

Public ordinance
Public nuisance
You could be an illegal immigrant hiding

heh it's ok i thought it was funny anyways

thanks for forgiving me OP, you're nice

Deportation
Law requires proper ID
Lying on federal ID is illegal
Real ID requirements is a passport, social security number
You're clocked,

this shit is made up

Only troons that have theses problems are sex workers.
Really
Everyone else who is transgender is enjoying their life.

It's the one crazy troon no one likes, that makes everyone think all transgender people are like that troon.
It's why society is violent to transgender people
Association to crazy troons

by rail you mean do a lot of them? i i have a nice butt and it looks big with my small waist. i used to do a lot of squats but my car broke so i can only exercise at home now. i have a barbell but no squat rack so i do deadlifts but it makes my back even bigger lol whatever i am just going to do the aap repper thing i guess.
i have brain rot and dont know what this means

my mom doesn't pass...

lol mine either, nor does my auntie (moms sister). sad i have to tell them they’re not real women despite birthing several children each because of some arbitrary measurements i saw online.

The Transgender Panic
How society sees transgender people but not normal conformed citizens.
How Muslims deal with transgender people, that will be normal to do to transgender people, in every country.

I'm a cis male and I used to look like f without the tits. I blasted the fuck out of pull ups and lateral raises because it was giving me gender dysphoria lol.

That shit is made up by sex workers, that's why most women don't pass.
Drugs, sickness, STDs , mentally ill

im so confused idgi

Real ID in my state can be updated to your transition sex insanely easily, and mine already is since I've already had my drivers license done

Also that's not what clock means

Bud light
Jaguar
No DEI laws, transgender people are bad for business.
They don't have to serve you or allow you in their business.
It's inhumane but now legal

A few states ok
You're selfish and people prefer not to talk to selfish people.
USA is a big country, it's not about you

im not a troon! im an aap repper
imagining myself as a ftm

the pelvic shape is way more important

I don't know maybe explain I don't think anyone cares except take your slang to the poor part of town and stay there

I give you some advice, talk like a man not some queer

I don't think it's about me, this was in response to you saying I'll be fucked if they start checking RealID to get into the bathroom

And that's how society attacks groups.
Incel
Goth
White men
They attack groups and move on leaving destruction

you sound schizophrenic, like what you're saying is very peripheral and bizzare

Ok
Well, conform to what society says then

lol
what is there to explain? its board lingo
its board lingo.. i know how to talk like a man around normies, this board is a safe space

I do, I'm a very stereotypically feminine woman. I'm extremely well confined to my gender role kek what are you on about.
I've had more female puberty than male, I'd stand out more trying to be a man

Society has no time , please go somewhere else.
Or society will control your group

am i gmi if i look like f with smaller boobs and bigger stomach prehrt

t. poon

If you hit the gym maybe sure

how am I supposed to change my shoulders??? Fuck I hate my body so much. I might cut myself because of this fucking thread

my society was already conquered by 3rd world catholics, this board is my group

do it shoulderhon, we don't fucking care faggot.

dont cut nona:(

You're not supposed to change them, just be aware of them
and compensate by working out your hips and wearing clothing that flatters your body.

poons are always gmi unless their face is insanely female because test + muscle will widen your shoulders/ribcage and kill hips

Don't listen to them, your identity is transgender.
Not a slave to societies perverted people

Girls that do gymnastics are built like that

you can’t change them without some frankensteinian dr eppley surgery. accept that they cannot change and find things that bring you joy. don’t be a doomer because someone told you to feel badly about yourself. you’ll be okay anon, stay safe.

and they wear flattering clothing to compensate.

awesome bragpost i guess,
Mine are 1.407(SWR) and 0.72(WHR)

unsee cc/album#338E4YHQ5LHK
how over is it for me? 1 yr 11 months hrt

It's more of a disbelief post. Ig I have extreme bdd because I see linebacker shoulders, absolutely no waist, and a fat tummy in the mirror

unsee cc/album#338E4YHQ5LHK

ehhhh, it's not great desu, but ygmi if your hips fill in more, your waist is ok

Well, there's a lot about a body that's not shown in those measurements

I'm told I'm hot all the time on this board and never really believe it. I took my ratios as a way to prove them wrong and it backfired

my shoulders are pretty much 1:1 because but i still feel like i look kinda weird since i just have big hips and big shoulders

This is always a possibility, but unless you're very short that's not necessarily attractive

You can just use >picrel next time.

This post was probably made by someone who is an hiphon and is trying to make others feel bad.
I wouldn't even be surprised if it is a bdd passoid... It probably is.

How do measure your shoulder ?
Tip to top
End to end

Bideltoid is the proper measurement for this

What is bdd ?
I think OP is insecure and narcissistic

make others feel bad???? This is a simple attempt at decreasing net honfidence, if you're 3 standard deviations above the average SHR I'm going to let you know that's fucked up

I posted a measurements thread yesterday you can probably find in archive. I refuse to make comments on my typology

So you grow a super fat ass ?
Really people
You need to go out and look around.
I'm out all day , I don't talk to people, but people approach me.
One do you want talk in general
Two are looking for fight
Three I'm now a sex worker
. what's your choice
I'm brawler, small but a brawler

what?

I kick ass
You get stupid I kick ass

...you made this thread because of me, didnt you?
you couldve just told me to kill myself...

i mean probably you do I guess. I don't think anyone was saying you don't

what? no, I've just been on a doom lately. I don't even think I've seen all the posts in that thread. Sorry if this is a blackpill, no I did not post this because of any reply I've recieved

That's right

my hips are wider than my shoulders by like 0.5 in and its still not enough desu

How come only d and h get to have flowers on their shirts?

Fat people are terrifying

lol its ok i just felt like garbage in that thread because to my memory you mog ts out of me

I love fat men
Sorry

Health comes first before looks.
Assholes are worried about lioks

Your strength may be your most valuable tool, but mine has always been my beauty. It would be stupid for me to neglect it

Beauty isn't everything, if don't make money to support a family

ironically, it is thick thighs that are associated with good health

everyone is worried about looks retard what do you think we are doing with our eyes? its the number 1 thing people comprehend you with, even if they can push it aside for other things

Overall well being, mentally and physically

No ass

looks like a pretty twink